network marketing
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how many MLM companies you are familiar with?
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Amway
Elken
NuSkin
OmegaTrend
Chlitina
BioYoung (formally known as SMC Freemaker)
Top Japanese Chlorella (TJC), formally known as SunChlorella
Loxur
LampeBerger
Cosway
eCosway
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there are more i think ... WBG, FORMOR, GOLDQUEST
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Wow. For the list, I can only know NuSkin. -
It's not the matter that how many companies you know, it is which company you choosed.
remember to evalute using 3P, Products, Plan & People.
cheers!!
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i have these lying around in my house
E.Excel
New Image -
Enliven
Japan Life
Mary Kay
NewLife
Herbalife
Unicity
Molecular Products
Ezshoppe
Astral Mag
NTI-paris
Neways
Belair
O2lab
Skybiz.com
Skyquest
Fukuda
Empire Dreams
Asayo
Biospa
Sunrider
Avon
1cellnet
Club2020
Affordable Luxuries
Big Planet ( Sub of Nuskin)
Pharmanex ( Sub of Nuskin)
E.Excell
Excel
Nouveau Cosmeceuticals
API
Tahitian Noni International
The Marketing Cornerstone
Usana
Viva Lifescience
Synergy Worldwide
VMDirect
2by2.net
DISCOVERY TOYS
ePlanetParadise
FORMOR INTERNATIONAL
Everyhome
Diamond Energy Water
LIFE SCIENCE TECHNOLOGY
PTI
Reliv
Tupperware
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It's not so easy just evaluting 3P. There are much more than just that. if u do, u might be in serious problem.Originally posted by jedi:It's not the matter that how many companies you know, it is which company you choosed.
remember to evalute using 3P, Products, Plan & People.
cheers!! -
please consider carefully. You might land up in big sh*t
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can you please tell me what others issue I have to take note other than products, plan & people?Originally posted by stormax:It's not so easy just evaluting 3P. There are much more than just that. if u do, u might be in serious problem.
come on, don't tell me new company easy do, new market easy do these kind of crap.
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If you think I'm going to advise such a thing, then u r wrong!!Originally posted by jedi:can you please tell me what others issue I have to take note other than products, plan & people?
come on, don't tell me new company easy do, new market easy do these kind of crap.
thx
That's a very shallow pt of view to look into a company just because it's new company, new market. I don't encourage New company as it's like traditional biz, how well-plan and focus are they? New company need to look at different aspects of biz pt of views.
I look all from entreprise point of view and this can be related to both MLM & traditional biz.
What I will take note :
1- It's NOT ONLY on local market, not how many countries it has gone into as it'll means that there are lesser overseas opportunities. Market saturation?
2- How huge is the market? Are you bonded by some hidden rules?
If you want to go to an undeveloped country, are you allow to do it?
3- How long and how sure are you that it's goin to work? Looking at it with different pt of views & perspectives. Not just what you tink alone. Of course, not many ppl can see foresights like Bill Gates, but you might be able to see if you can analyse the whole global market trends, directions, cycles and future.
4- Company's vision. Ask around for vision, it's not very surprising to know many don't know.
5- Boss's mindset.
6- Comparing on similar products, How unique and competitive? Or there are too many options?
7- Safety of the products.How safe? Any national or government test report. I don't mean clinc trials n testings. Side effects after several years?
8- Education system is important. It's not just how good the products are, how grand the company is, the important thing is whether are they turning the mindset of normal people to being salesman or entrepreneur. Entrepreneur do not mean the context of S'pore.
9- How fair is the plan and what are the hidden factors? See it from both angles, from the top and the bottom. If it's not healthy, you wont have or not many will be able to have what they claim.
10- Team players. You might have a good company yet the team might be lousy. How strong and motivated are the team players? What mindset are they? Do you have alot of successful people from other industries, PHD, directors. They might be experts in their own field, but they are not experts in MLM. Most of them are very employee mindset and boast of their capabilities....... If someone said that he has changed so many MLM companies and he's an expert, then may I ask is he working for a MLM company or is MLM system working for him?
Mix around with the people you want to be, and you will be like one of them.
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Thanks for your info!
yeah, you are rite! Boss mindset and company vision is important!
market saturated? come on dude!! Christian have been on earth for more than two thousand years, but until now still got people go convience people to believe in GOD, believe in JESUS. So what is MLM? just few years on Earth then start to say saturated? ha!
Now a days, I can say 99.99% of our house have TV, maybe 29" or some 42". But Panasonic still producing new TV, still coming out with new models! WHY? because this market on Earth will never ever be saturated!!
Every car on Earth comes with 4 tire when we buy it. But why are there so many tire shop in the town? Since every car have 4 tire, then the market for tire should be saturated long time ago! BUT why these tire shop still can survive?
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That's what make you n I different. Mindset!Originally posted by jedi:Thanks for your info!
yeah, you are rite! Boss mindset and company vision is important!
market saturated? come on dude!! Christian have been on earth for more than two thousand years, but until now still got people go convience people to believe in GOD, believe in JESUS. So what is MLM? just few years on Earth then start to say saturated? ha!
Now a days, I can say 99.99% of our house have TV, maybe 29" or some 42". But Panasonic still producing new TV, still coming out with new models! WHY? because this market on Earth will never ever be saturated!!
Every car on Earth comes with 4 tire when we buy it. But why are there so many tire shop in the town? Since every car have 4 tire, then the market for tire should be saturated long time ago! BUT why these tire shop still can survive?
cheers!
Some are wealthy and others might even be filthy wealthy. The key thing is how much are you goin 2 earn?
I guess you never did biz before........... What do you think is the best earning products or parts in a car? Do you think a tire shop only sells tires? In addition, do you know how many closed down every year? How fast do the tires need to be change? That also determine when will be the next sales. Why shall the client also come back to you for the 2nd time when there are so many choices, why YOU?
For your info, Market in electronics is saturated with big brands. To be able to have a part of the pie and a pie size that is about the same like Sony, Sharp, Panasonic, you have to have different marketing strategy. Orelse you are just another small fly!!
Have you thought why did the old models last longer? It used to last like 10years, but recent products is already a good one to last up to 3 yrs.
Have you thought why did Sony only started selling TV, yet what are the range of products now? Everything in Electronics.
Can I know how many TV do you have in your house? How long do you change your TV? Do you always buy from the same shop and at the same place?
& if you are comparing with God, then you are wrong!! He is not
a product!
MLM is an industry but it does not mean that every companies is able to work, excel and even have more rooms to move. Try goin 2 China, you will understand what are the brands that are so common that no one is interested to do a biz out of it. In addition, there are still consumers yet how many more will be attracted to them as biz and really earn big bucks?
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Originally posted by stormax:
sorry, I have business in India, Singapore & Liverpool. I am running my own business when I am 21.
I guess you [b]never did biz before........... What do you think is the best earning products or parts in a car? Do you think a tire shop only sells tires? In addition, do you know how many closed down every year? How fast do the tires need to be change? That also determine when will be the next sales. Why shall the client also come back to you for the 2nd time when there are so many choices, why YOU?
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if you talk about car, tire is a consumable item for a car, that's why we have to replace it from time to time.
Same to our home, household products are consumable item, everyday we brush our teeth, we will have to buy our toothpaste & toothbrush maybe every 6-8 months.
So do you think market for household consumables item will be saturated?
About why me? ha!
this is depends on how unique your product is! and of course, how you handle this with your competitors.
If you have a product that is really good, and you applied patent for it, so you are the only one on this earth that can sell this product and use this formula to produce the product.
Do you think your customer will run away?
Powerful & Huge MLM company will setup their own R&D and then patent their new technology, example Sylodent from Amway & ap-24 from NuSkin.
Of course you can insist on buying X-Brand toothpaste, if you are willing to risk your enamel layer, then just go ahead. I have no rights to stop you for being "teethless"
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It all boils down to the value the customer gets.
The company that can give the customer the best wins.
Electronics industry, to me, is saturated. What are the usual companies that are staying around? They are usually the big ones. Small ones come and go without leaving anyone any impression they were there in the first place.
There's more that meets the eye to this saturation thing.
Let's take a look at the razor blade industry. Name one company that dominates this industry.
Gillette.
Maybe it's me or what, but I don't see many other companies selling razor blade. Is this market saturation? Why don't people enter this industry? People also change blades very often. -
forget about jedi.. he is just a greenhorn trying to act smart that he knows alot of networking.
go back to your amway! when yuo reach the crown ass.. then come back to tell us. dont bark around like a kid. -
Haha!! Agreed!Originally posted by Alex Wong:forget about jedi.. he is just a greenhorn trying to act smart that he knows alot of networking.
go back to your amway! when yuo reach the crown ass.. then come back to tell us. dont bark around like a kid.
He still doesn't know what is unique product with patent and there are NOT even a product that is similar or competitors are less than the number of fingers in one hand.
Just like the example that is given to Parka : Gillette.
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now I realise that I am talking a bunch of nuts...
again, if you disagree with MLM concept, then just go back to your job & do it well.
We need someone to work from 8am to 5pm, from 20 to 55 years old to serve us!
I am glad that there are someone who willing to work! At least there will be someone that is not financial & time freedom like us in MLM! -
When did you ever see that we do not agree to MLM concept?Originally posted by jedi:now I realise that I am talking a bunch of nuts...
again, if you disagree with MLM concept, then just go back to your job & do it well.
We need someone to work from 8am to 5pm, from 20 to 55 years old to serve us!
I am glad that there are someone who willing to work! At least there will be someone that is not financial & time freedom like us in MLM!
When did we state that we are working?
When did we tell you that we are NOT having financial & time freedom NOW????
When did we indictate that only MLM can do this?
Look at yourself before branding others!! You might never know you are calling yourself
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Not everyone in this world change blades very often, and also NOT everyone use razor blade!Originally posted by Parka: It all boils down to the value the customer gets.
The company that can give the customer the best wins.
Electronics industry, to me, is saturated. What are the usual companies that are staying around? They are usually the big ones. Small ones come and go without leaving anyone any impression they were there in the first place.
There's more that meets the eye to this saturation thing.
Let's take a look at the razor blade industry. Name one company that dominates this industry.
Gillette.
Maybe it's me or what, but I don't see many other companies selling razor blade. Is this market saturation? Why don't people enter this industry? People also change blades very often.
we can assume that this earth is equal, means we have 50% male and 50% female.
then we categorize them into 5 cat, A (from 0-20yrs), B (from 21-40yrs), C (from 41-60 Yrs), D (from 61-80yrs) and E (80 & above)
People now can live until average of 67 years old.
So only category B, C & half of D need to use razor blade.
It's just 25% people need razor blade in this world. But 100% people on Earth need toothpaste & toothbrush and syampoo!!
But look at household consumables item, even when you are just a 1 month old baby, your mom have to wash your clothed and change your napkins. At the same time, your mom & dad have to clean the house & brush their teeth and etc!!
So, you actually consuming consumables item even when you are 1 month only!!
When you get old, even if you have no more real teeth (maybe due to insist of using non-sugarfree toothpaste), you will still use toothpaste to brush your fake teeth.
You start brushing your teeth from yr 1 to the day you die, but if you are a guy, you start to use razor blade when you are 20.
Can you see the difference between razor blade & consumable item?
If you wanna compare with computer parts, can!! let's talk about HP printer.
in a HP LaserJet printer, there will be many parts such as heating elements and etc. Although HP printer is very famous in the world, but HP is the only company on Earth that produce heating elements for HP printers.
But let's look at toner & cartridge, a lot of remanufacturer toner and refill cartridge running in the market.
Why these competitors do NOT want to produce heating elements and they start to bang the toner market?!
This is because to a printer, toner is a consumable item and heating elements is just a spare parts. Consumable item will never ever be saturated BUT if they start to produce heating elements, they will be in deep shit.
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Originally posted by stormax:
fine, then u name one company or industry that can give you time & financial freedom AND also that business will continue to run even you passed away.
When did you ever see that we do not agree to MLM concept?
When did we state that we are working?
When did we tell you that we are NOT having financial & time freedom NOW????
When did we indictate that only MLM can do this?
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Look at yourself before branding others!! You might never know you are calling yourself [/b]
time freedom many boss can do, but is it a actual time freedom? regardless how high position you are, even if you are a CEO of a big corporate, BUT you will still have to report to the Board Of Directors!
Running own business? ha! never ever dream that you can have your free time, your employee will start to "snake" or some even start to undercut your business.
If you have a partner and you are not around for maybe 2 years, I believe that when you come back, your company left nothing others tonnes of bad debts. -
U wanna to know the bosses who manufacture heating elements?
See yourself before you make such comments
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That is why you fail!
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see!! I told you that I am talking a someone that is really nuts!!
I am giving example of spare parts & consumable items, but now start to tell me where to buy spare parts.
This is really a good example of someone that don't really know MLM.
anyhow, it would be useful if you can provide me the name of the factory that produce heating elements for HP printers, I am totally upset with HP, especially have to leave the printer there for 1 month then still have to pay for sky price.