The case for the 1st cause

• BroInChrist

  1 Aug 12, 11:52

  Originally posted by Jacky Woo:

  dun waste time with him.

  Why? You have a problem with White Dust?

  Time spent engaging with White Dust is not wasted, though I can't say the same for you. Sorry.

• [imdestinyz]

  1 Aug 12, 12:01

  Originally posted by BroInChrist:

  Why? You have a problem with White Dust?

  Time spent engaging with White Dust is not wasted, though I can't say the same for you. Sorry.

  
  he has a problem with you... dnt think is with white dust.

• BroInChrist

  1 Aug 12, 12:11

  Originally posted by [imdestinyz]:

  
  he has a problem with you... dnt think is with white dust.

  But what kind of problem does Jacky have with me really? I also have no personal dealings with him, don't owe him money or what.

  Or maybe he has a problem with Christianity in general but is using me specially as his punching bag?

• Aneslayer

  1 Aug 12, 12:28

  Originally posted by BroInChrist:

  What I shared is what Christians believe as taught in the Bible and held to by the early church. Filling on your ignorance is very much truths found in the Bible, or based on the Bible.

  So you can represent what the Christians believe?

  And you filled my ignorance with unproven biblical truths or truths based on the bible?

• [imdestinyz]

  1 Aug 12, 12:33

  Originally posted by BroInChrist:

  But what kind of problem does Jacky have with me really? I also have no personal dealings with him, don't owe him money or what.

  Or maybe he has a problem with Christianity in general but is using me specially as his punching bag?

  
  jacky can give you a better answer for that.

  But my guess is that he has issues with the way u push for christianity to be everything.

• Jacky Woo

  1 Aug 12, 12:44

  Originally posted by BroInChrist:

  Why? You have a problem with White Dust?

  Time spent engaging with White Dust is not wasted, though I can't say the same for you. Sorry.

  actually not you to be precise dun take it personally but your beliefs.

  your beliefs are at odds with science and rational thinking.

• BroInChrist

  1 Aug 12, 13:04

  Originally posted by Aneslayer:

  So you can represent what the Christians believe?

  And you filled my ignorance with unproven biblical truths or truths based on the bible?

   

  I can speak for what Christians ought to believe based on the Bible. And your ignorance is filled with truths based on the Bible.
• BroInChrist

  1 Aug 12, 13:06

  Originally posted by [imdestinyz]:

  
  jacky can give you a better answer for that.

  But my guess is that he has issues with the way u push for christianity to be everything.

  
  So he has no issues with Christianity but just do not like the way I talk? That's being personal amd not dealing with the issues, isn't it?
• BroInChrist

  1 Aug 12, 13:08

  Originally posted by Jacky Woo:

  actually not you to be precise dun take it personally but your beliefs.

  your beliefs are at odds with science and rational thinking.

  
  How are my beliefs at odds with science and rational thinking? If it were then how come the founders of modern science were mostly believers in God or had a Christian worldview?
• bycai

  1 Aug 12, 13:19

  back to the question. how abt like this, taking example of a gadget - it was an idea prior to a gadget was created. how was this idea of the mind being created from the nothing nothingless ?

• despondent

  1 Aug 12, 13:20

  is infinity valueless or beyond value?

• bycai

  1 Aug 12, 13:33

  Originally posted by despondent:

  is infinity valueless or beyond value?

  It can be either valueless like space or beyond value like spaceless

• Aneslayer

  1 Aug 12, 13:39

  Originally posted by BroInChrist:

   

  I can speak for what Christians ought to believe based on the Bible. And your ignorance is filled with truths based on the Bible.

  Ought to? That means there is a bias from reality. Do you know what Christians believe then?

  Bible based truths? Is it objective truth?

   

   

• despondent

  1 Aug 12, 14:14

  if infinity can be valueless that means infinity can be equals to zero...then let me ask u: wads 100 + infinity? it shld be 100 then cos 100 + 0 = 100..

• BroInChrist

  1 Aug 12, 14:36

  Originally posted by Aneslayer:

  Ought to? That means there is a bias from reality. Do you know what Christians believe then?

  Bible based truths? Is it objective truth?

   

   

  
  You speak as if you are in a position to judge. Last I check, your knowledge of the Bible is dismally disappointing.
• Jacky Woo

  1 Aug 12, 15:07

  Originally posted by BroInChrist:

  
  How are my beliefs at odds with science and rational thinking? If it were then how come the founders of modern science were mostly believers in God or had a Christian worldview?

  you seriously think your beliefs and science are not at odds? I rest my case.

• Aneslayer

  1 Aug 12, 15:57

  Originally posted by BroInChrist:

  
  You speak as if you are in a position to judge. Last I check, your knowledge of the Bible is dismally disappointing.

   

  ¹judge

   verb \ˈjÉ™j\

  judgedjudg·ing

  Definition of JUDGE

  transitive verb

  1

  : to form an opinion about through careful weighing of evidence and testing of premises

  2

  : to sit in judgment on : try

  3

  : to determine or pronounce after inquiry and deliberation

  4

  : govern, rule —used of a Hebrew tribal leader

  5

  : to form an estimate or evaluation of; especially : to form a negative opinion about <shouldn't judge him because of his accent>

  6

  : to hold as an opinion : guess, think <I judge she knew what she was doing>

  intransitive verb

  
  

   

  Which definition?

  You are saying as if judging needs a position... You are judging me when you said:"I know you do not know what Christians believe. God knows how often I had to fill in on your ignorance of the faith." Or do you think you are in a better position to judge? Poisoning the well much?

  Btw no judging on my side. Bias from reality means what they ought to believe is different from what they actually believe. Just answer the question:  Do you know what Christians believe then?

  And "Bible based truths? Is it objective truth?"
  

  And now what did you checked on? Your judgement?

   

• bycai

  1 Aug 12, 16:09

  Originally posted by despondent:

  if infinity can be valueless that means infinity can be equals to zero...then let me ask u: wads 100 + infinity? it shld be 100 then cos 100 + 0 = 100..

  this bring forth finite that escalates into valueless inequality that causes non selfless as finite has its limitation like sun has its lifespan.100 + 0 has to be 0 for infinite to take place. Henceforth, infinite with finite ought to be infinite so that the caring, benevolence, tolerance and even samaritanism will not cause exhaustion to ur finiteness. Hope that this has some reasonable basis to the Reason for the Hope

• despondent

  1 Aug 12, 16:54

  i dun tink u understand wad i am saying...God cannot be created cos he is infinite...infinity is beyond value...it does not equal zero...

• Jacky Woo

  1 Aug 12, 17:31

  you are right. god cannot be created because it is imaginative and unreal. it is invented by ancient men due to fear, ignorance and wishful thinking.

• BroInChrist

  1 Aug 12, 21:12

  Originally posted by Jacky Woo:

  you are right. god cannot be created because it is imaginative and unreal. it is invented by ancient men due to fear, ignorance and wishful thinking.

  
  Then one can also assert that God is rejected by atheists due to fear, ignorance and wishful thinking. So you see, such assertions are easily asserted both ways. What is required is a good argument, Jacky.
• SJS6638

  1 Aug 12, 21:15

  Originally posted by Aneslayer:

  So you can represent what the Christians believe?

  And you filled my ignorance with unproven biblical truths or truths based on the bible?

  No, he has different views from other christians on tithing so he cannot represent all christians.

• SJS6638

  1 Aug 12, 21:18

  Originally posted by BroInChrist:

  
  You speak as if you are in a position to judge. Last I check, your knowledge of the Bible is dismally disappointing.

  It is unfair and unkind of you to comment on his knowledge on the bible knowing well he is not a christian.    Even some christians also are dismally disappointing where knowledge of the bible is concerned.  

• Aneslayer

  2 Aug 12, 10:33

  Originally posted by SJS6638:

  It is unfair and unkind of you to comment on his knowledge on the bible knowing well he is not a christian.    Even some christians also are dismally disappointing where knowledge of the bible is concerned.  

  But I am a Christian... there are SO many conflicting beliefs among Christians thus discussions goes on...
  Anyway, he is just taking it personally... I forgive him, but he must answer those questions...

• Jacky Woo

  2 Aug 12, 12:29

  Originally posted by BroInChrist:

  
  Then one can also assert that God is rejected by atheists due to fear, ignorance and wishful thinking. So you see, such assertions are easily asserted both ways. What is required is a good argument, Jacky.

  this is funny. what wishful thinking, fear and ignorance does atheists have? dun just copycat my reply, be original, you have a brain.