who created God
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White Dust,
This feedback reply http://creation.com/universe-cause has a comment on the issue of God creating "before" time began. The one giving the feedback wrote, "A creator is only necessary if time existed before the universe. Time did not exist before the universe. Therefore, a creator is unnecessary." Is this also your view?
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who created god? mankind
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if someone indeed created god then the next question would be who created the someone who created god. it never ends!!!
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Same with big bang theory...
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oh well...defining God as finite again...
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Originally posted by despondent:
oh well...defining God as finite again...
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I already made the distinction earlier on in this thread...the word ''create'' suggests limit, finite and bounded...the qn is by itself a flawed qn...its not flawed to ask who created man cos man is finite, lives in the limited realm of time and bounded by time...''who created God'' can only be considered a valid qn if God is define as limited and finite...
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have you or anyone met god before?
how u know god is infinite when no one has ever seen or documented god's existence?
whether god is finite or infinite doesnt matter, follows the logic and logical thought. if you have not or anyone have not met god and to call god infinite, is a flawed argument/debate.
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depends on who you ask? to the believers, of cos god is infinite, but to those who doesnt believe in god existence, to say god is infinite, is like believing in a tooth fairy isn't it.
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so as a believer i am saying that if God is infinite then its flawed to ask ''who created God''...but if one believes God is finite then yes, its valid to ask ''who created God'' for which the answer is another another God of higher finity created this God...
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the establishment of the existence of god is still unproven or yet to be proved.
Until that day happens, one group of people will always believe god no matter what, and the other group vehemently no.
maybe you can come out with an equation or irrefutable facts to prove god exists
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Originally posted by despondent:
...but if one believes God is finite then yes, its valid to ask ''who created God'' for which the answer is another another God of higher finity created this God...
now the key word here is believe. no I don't believe it, so god is finite is not relevant to me.
anyway no one mentioned about god infinity or finite here, you are the one brandishing it here.
who created god is actually irrelevant here, because how can something that does not exists exist and was/is the figment of ancient's men imagination. just like fairy tooth. some children actually want to believe in a tooth fairy.
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Originally posted by Jacky Woo:
now the key word here is believe. no I don't believe it, so god is finite is not relevant to me.
anyway no one mentioned about god infinity or finite here, you are the one brandishing it here.
who created god is actually irrelevant here, because how can something that does not exists exist and was/is the figment of ancient's men imagination. just like fairy tooth. some children actually want to believe in a tooth fairy.
The law of excluded middle applies: God is either infinite or finite.
And you are not understanding the question or what despondent is saying. The quesion is flawed because it assumes that God is a finite being. But the Bible teaches that God is an infinite being. Therefore to ask that question is meaningless.
You continue to dogmatically assert that God does not exist as if it is a fact and that He is merely a figment of man's imagination. Yet all you have is admittedly a BELIEF. You have absolutely no evidence to back such a dogmatic claim. Where is your evidence that God is nothing but man's imagination? On the other hand, the theist has given many lines of arguments and evidences that points to there being a God. Your ignoring them does not make them go away.
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
The law of excluded middle applies: God is either infinite or finite.
And you are not understanding the question or what despondent is saying. The quesion is flawed because it assumes that God is a finite being. But the Bible teaches that God is an infinite being. Therefore to ask that question is meaningless.
yes its meaningless to you believers, but its also meaningless to me.
how can something that doesnt exists be infinite, oh maybe, nothingness/empty space, infinity..........
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god exists, prove it once and for all this age old qns since the ancient times.
god exists in the holy books and believers, just like superman exists in DC comics.
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Originally posted by Jacky Woo:
yes its meaningless to you believers, but its also meaningless to me.
how can something that doesnt exists be infinite, oh maybe, nothingness/empty space, infinity..........
You confused existence with attributes. And you again made a dogmatic declaration that God does not exist, with nothing to support the claim at all.
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Originally posted by Jacky Woo:
god exists, prove it once and for all this age old qns since the ancient times.
god exists in the holy books and believers, just like superman exists in DC comics.
It is fallacious to reason that just because Superman exists only in DC comics, that therefore God only exists in Holy Books.
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
You confused existence with attributes. And you again made a dogmatic declaration that God does not exist, with nothing to support the claim at all.
god exists? where? in heaven? in the holy book? you seen god before?
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Originally posted by Miyuki miingguii:
Oi broinchrist. U also made a dogmatic declaration that god exist, with no concrete proof at all.
What do you mean by concrete proof? I have always maintained that it is reasonable to believe that God exists, and that there is evidence that points to there being a God. And I have already shown them in many posts.
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Originally posted by Jacky Woo:
god exists? where? in heaven? in the holy book? you seen god before?
If you are willing and humble enough to follow the arguments used in the case for God, then it is worthwhile to proceed. Otherwise you will simply turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to everything I said, just like what you have been doing all this while.
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
If you are willing and humble enough to follow the arguments used in the case for God, then it is worthwhile to proceed. Otherwise you will simply turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to everything I said, just like what you have been doing all this while.
what? to read the nonsense and garbage spouted by you? you call that an argument lol?no disrespect, but I find all the arguments from believers, all nonsense.
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Originally posted by Jacky Woo:
what? to read the nonsense and garbage spouted by you? you call that an argument lol?no disrespect, but I find all the arguments from believers, all nonsense.
Question begging epithet again which reflects a close-minded militant village atheist.