GE2015 Results

• Neutral-Thinker

  13 Sep 15, 13:48

  Originally posted by Ee Hoe Hean Club:

  The number of people in Singapore who can speak mandarin and english flawlessly, maybe I can count with ten fingers.

  Mention 10 prominent Malaysians who could do so please.

• Ee Hoe Hean Club

  13 Sep 15, 13:57

  Originally posted by Neutral-Thinker:

  Mention 10 prominent Malaysians who could do so please.

  I am talking about PAP's failed bilingual garbage policies, why you go and talk about Malaysia?

  You want to talk about malaysia, you must talk about mandarin and malay already, not english.

• Neutral-Thinker

  13 Sep 15, 14:03

  Originally posted by Ee Hoe Hean Club:

  I am talking about PAP's failed bilingual garbage policies, why you go and talk about Malaysia?

  You want to talk about malaysia, you must talk about mandarin and malay already, not english.

  In that case, Malaysia should not be our model for bi-lingualism which you suggested.

  You often hear about Malaysians sending their kids to Singapore for education (despite not receiving scholarships) but I have never heard of any Singaporean parent sending their kids to Malaysia to receive primary or secondary education.

• Neutral-Thinker

  13 Sep 15, 14:05

  I am not against you .... I am only saying the Chinese language standard dropped because of elimination of Chinese-stream schools (those students are known as �校生) rather than should learn from Malaysian Chinese schools.

• Ee Hoe Hean Club

  13 Sep 15, 14:08

  Originally posted by Neutral-Thinker:

   

  You often hear about Malaysians sending their kids to Singapore for education (despite not receiving scholarships) but I have never heard of any Singaporean parent sending their kids to Malaysia to receive primary or secondary education.

  Doesn't matter, PAP bilingual policy is still a failure and garbage. I think Harry Lee also admitted that.

• Neutral-Thinker

  13 Sep 15, 14:18

  Originally posted by Ee Hoe Hean Club:

  Doesn't matter, PAP bilingual policy is still a failure and garbage. I think Harry Lee also admitted that.

  That may be the case after they stopped conducting History in Chinese classes and switched to History in English classes for secondary 1 to secondary 2 SAP school students making it only 1 of 8-9 subjects only conducted in Chinese ( don't know which year they switched over but students born in 1973 already did not receive History in Chinese lessons ).

  After that switch, students do not read and write sufficiently in Chinese resulting in the poor standard of Chinese.

  However the bulk of current students still receive at least 10 years of CL2 Chinese classes and have the foundation to further improve Chinese by themselves with the help of a Chinese dictionary or Chinese-English dictionary should there be a need after they leave school.

• Neutral-Thinker

  13 Sep 15, 14:38

  Currently, the bilingual system produces people up till approximately this level: Han Hui Hui (FT converted Singaporean) approximately finished top 200 in her batch in Singapore for both languages ( see 9:47 onwards https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--oXe8TTSgU  ).

• Neutral-Thinker

  13 Sep 15, 15:31

  Now, even elderly and disabled Singaporeans selling tissue papers have foreign competitors ( http://news.asiaone.com/news/singapore/upset-over-foreign-tissue-paper-sellers ).  This is on top of the Singaporean market of cardboard collection by poor elderly retired Singaporeans that Lim Tean mentioned in his political rally speeches.

  Don't understand Singaporeans why they chose to give such a strong mandate to population white paper (and imminent GST increase).

• SMB145B

  13 Sep 15, 15:54

  our bi-lingual policy is screwed

  not only screw up English and CL/ML/TL

  but also dialects and other minority languages.

• SMB145B

  13 Sep 15, 15:59

  Originally posted by Neutral-Thinker:

  SDP did not wish to contest in Sembawang in 2015.

  Tampines is NSP's area.  They did OK there with 28% votes (and close to 43% in 2011) considering the fact of Sebastian's scandal and the recent departure of good candidates like Steve Chia, Tony Tan, Hazel Poa, Nicole Seah, Tan Lam Siong, Goh Meng Seng and Jeneatte.

  NSP = crap lah

  please let SDP contest Sembawang. thanks.

  28% is ok?? there is a swing of 15% against NSP!!

• SMB145B

  13 Sep 15, 16:01

  Originally posted by Neutral-Thinker:

  28% after losses of 7 good candidates is not bad result but very far away from the average of 39% (or 43% in Tampines) they received in 2011 election.

  can you don't NSP (read: flip-flop) again

• minx

  13 Sep 15, 17:03

  www.tremeritus.com/2015/09/13/roy-ngerng-what-happened-at-ge2015/

• jurongresident

  13 Sep 15, 17:10

  after all, language is used to read, write and talk.

  I was thinking about it. Actually, to improve our Mother Tongue, it is easy.

  Solution: change how we learn this "subject" called Civics and Moral Education (CME) (好公民).

  In primary one, while some of us may just began learning the Mother Tongue, we can learn CME in English.

  From primary two onwards, when all of us know how to communicate using the Mother Tongue, we can learn CME in our Mother Tongue.

  Likewise, in secondary school, we should learn CME in our Mother Tongue.

  The purpose is to allow more opportunity to use our Mother Tongue. During CME lessons, we can learn phrases, adjectives, nouns and verbs in our Mother Tongue.

  Like I said, Language is used to read, write and talk. We have to consistently use it, otherwise, as time goes by, we will become weak in using the Language.

  Actually, this applies to everything.

• jurongresident

  13 Sep 15, 17:37

  Suggestion:

  The MOE should open more kindergarten "classes". The number of places at each Kindergarten level (豆豆�, Nursury, K1, K2) should be about the same as the number of places at each Primary level (P1, P2, P3, P4, P5, P6).

  To do it, the government can merge all PAP kindergarten and NTUC kindergarten together, and change them into MOE kindergarten.

  The MOE kindergarten should be mandatory, not compulsory. Parents can enrol their child at any age (before primary school), into the level that is appropriate to the child's age. For example, if enrol at 5 years old (age as in January), enter K2.

  To encourage parents to enrol their child into the MOE kindergarten, there should be the option to use CPF money to pay for the school fees.

  Meals should be provided, and included in the school fees. Also, there should be beds for the children to take afternoon nap. The school fees should include the rental of beds (to use for maintenance).

  The primary benefit is that this gives every child the opportunity to have pre-school education, before they begin their compulsory education at primary one. This will reduce the need for LSP (Learning Support Programme) in primary one and two, as more primary one and two children would be able to cope with the education at primary one and two.

  The secondary benefit is that this may encourage people to give birth. Morning send their child to the Kindergarten, Evening fetch them back home.

• minx

  13 Sep 15, 18:04

  Go create language thread to talk.     Why you jurong hijack this thread?

• minx

  13 Sep 15, 19:19

  http://statestimesreview.com/2015/09/13/fcbc-pastor-there-is-no-need-to-use-your-vote-to-play-checks-and-balances/

  FCBC Pastor: There is no need to use your vote to play ‘checks and balances’

  admin / 9 hours ago

  Titled “Pray for a Strong Government”, pastor of FCBC church Lawrence Khong called for his churchgoers to vote for the ruling People’s Action Party (PAP).

  Starting off the article with a christian verse, the pastor claimed “the word of God” holds Chrisitans responsible to pray for the government. Pastor Lawrence Khong also claimed that it is his duty as a “spiritual leader” to give “spiritual guidance” on how Christians should “fulfill their duties as loyal citizens of Singapore and the Kingdom of God”.

  The pastor then told everyone there is no need to vote for checks and balances, a campaign message by the Workers’ Party.

  

  Photo of Lawrence Khong from undertheangsana tree

  You may view his original statement here.

• SMB145B

  13 Sep 15, 20:12

  huh? simi lan

  don't mix politics with religion please!

  EDIT:

  what the heck?

  everything also linked to PAP??

• lce

  13 Sep 15, 20:17

  What is this world be coming?

  Churches becoming businesses , Now church in politics?

   

• jurongresident

  13 Sep 15, 21:09

  Hi. I have an idea, with regards to giving birth:

  The government should provide subsidy for parents to hire domestic helper to take care of their children, from age zero days old to three years old.

  The government should allow locals to be domestic helpers. But in the form of the parents bringing their child to the helper's house, if they have no time to take care of their child.

• jurongresident

  13 Sep 15, 21:21

  Okay. Back to the results of the General Elections 2015.

  Honestly, I am surprised. The bus and trains is not perfect. Sometimes not reliable, sometimes hard to board.

  In my opinion, I feel that the reason is only (if not largely) because the opposition is weak, and their manifesto does not provide solutions that are feasible in the long-term.

  1. If CPF return at 55, this would cause many people to be completely out of money, and cause many more elderly people to have to continue working to support themselves. Why? Because if suddenly have so much money, people will naturally be tempted to spend. In the end, money all spent, no money left.

  I am aware that the government has increased the amount of CPF money it returns each time. I feel that they should stop at a certain amount. The amount should be enough to cover living expenses, at most match the amount of money they earn when they were working in their last-employed job. If go beyond, it really defeats the purpose of CPF.

  2. If there is a minimum wage of $1000, goods and services will become more expensive, because otherwise how would the company be able to increase wages? In the end, costs of living would increase. Back to square one.

• minx

  13 Sep 15, 21:44

  Why was goh chok tong there to canvass for votes?   Isn't this same as those PAP MPs attending geitai to get votes.   Why PAP can do it, when others do it they will be in trouble?     

• Ee Hoe Hean Club

  13 Sep 15, 21:47

  Originally posted by minx:

  http://statestimesreview.com/2015/09/13/fcbc-pastor-there-is-no-need-to-use-your-vote-to-play-checks-and-balances/

  FCBC Pastor: There is no need to use your vote to play ‘checks and balances’

  admin / 9 hours ago

  Titled “Pray for a Strong Government”, pastor of FCBC church Lawrence Khong called for his churchgoers to vote for the ruling People’s Action Party (PAP).

  Starting off the article with a christian verse, the pastor claimed “the word of God” holds Chrisitans responsible to pray for the government. Pastor Lawrence Khong also claimed that it is his duty as a “spiritual leader” to give “spiritual guidance” on how Christians should “fulfill their duties as loyal citizens of Singapore and the Kingdom of God”.

  The pastor then told everyone there is no need to vote for checks and balances, a campaign message by the Workers’ Party.

  

  Photo of Lawrence Khong from undertheangsana tree

  You may view his original statement here.

  Is this legal or not? This bastard supports PAP, or course no need check and balance lah, PAP already dominate politics already wah, that is what he wants wah.

• minx

  13 Sep 15, 21:47

  As for placing govt in the country, the christian has a say.   There was once I heard a Robert Soloman of a methodist church preaching govt is chosen by god to ge tgere and expect us to respect , submit or whatever crap.

  THIS IS CRAP

  Seems of all religions, tbe christianity christian pastors love to rub shoulders with govt, what benefits do they get by doing so?   

• minx

  13 Sep 15, 21:50

  In the bible , it is stated christians be impartial, pastor lawrence kong is not impartial by asking christians to vote pap, lit gor cheng ssoi yan lawrence kong Go dewseehung with goh chok tongggggg.

• Ee Hoe Hean Club

  13 Sep 15, 21:52

  How many PAP MPs are christians?