NUS grad says he's a failed product.....
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Originally posted by ^Acid^ aka s|aO^eH~:
hokay hokay... u're right...moi gib chiu a cookie~
but it's still better then a contract job
one of my platoon mates was retrenched last year from a PERM job (despite good performance and working more than a year liao, but still no promotion).
enough said
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1. his face look like child molester
2. can get NUS's MBA by sleeping through classes and talk cock and theory
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NUS MBA is top in the asian context....
but still far far away from the Ivy league
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Originally posted by Fcukpap:
NUS MBA is top in the asian context....
but still far far away from the Ivy league
rubbish..
even the Ivy League these days teach rubbish in the MBA.. the economic mess in the world is caused primarily by these MBA idiots
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there are some parts quite relevant as to the redundancy of males in the business/ sales force (but the ones will make it must have excellent PR and presentable skills) as opposed to gals who could even be on par with the best sales man without formal education if she has excellent looks and "PR" skills..thats the brutal reality....
if a guy does not have the looks, then he needs to work very very hard on presentation and PR skills and/or highly sought technical and academic qualifications....at the very bottom he needs to be really a YES MAN in order to succeed...
a business degree is a general discipline which only proven track records could qualify him up the corporate ladder....so a smart guy would work towards having both a specialized and a business degree....gals would tend to spend more on their outlooks and seduction as it is sufficient with a general degree....
his options now should be continuously networking and upgrading - keep focusing on building his career...if he is single...all the better.....but if he is married...and faced with such career dilemma....high chances are that his wife would leave him at his most distraught state....and that would add on to his living woes....
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like I said, a manager an MBA does not make, much less a degree.
If the chap thinks heaven, the world, society or the goverment owes him the good life just cos he's gained certain paper qualifications, then he's badly deluded ....
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Originally posted by the Bear:
rubbish..
even the Ivy League these days teach rubbish in the MBA.. the economic mess in the world is caused primarily by these MBA idiots
well i didn't say that Ivy league would guarantee....but in comparison, NUS MBA is only top in the asian contexts...u missed my point
the economic mess is also not due to MBAs per se but rather the need for high and transparent governances....
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Originally posted by Fatum:
like I said, a manager an MBA does not make, much less a degree.
If the chap thinks heaven, the world, society or the goverment owes him the good life just cos he's gained certain paper qualifications, then he's badly deluded ....
~ditto~
Just what I wanted to say too.
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"I am a 35-year-old male home-grown Singapore Chinese citizen. I graduated in 2000 from NUS Business School and harboured high hope of a good life afterwards.
However, when I started work in an operations position, my pay was only SGD 2100 – way below the general market rate of SGD 2500 for fresh grads."
Looking at your statement, I feel like slapping you. Do you know how many jobs out there are only given to NUS, NTU and SMU grads. How many times singaporean overseas students like us never even had a chance to be even selected for an interview just because we have an overseas degree.
I was not so lucky like u to get into NUS, I had to slog and study to get my overseas degree, even then when we returned we were looked down by our employers.
my so call degree pay was only SGD 1200 when I first started out but I never gave up I worked hard and taking up jobs no people wants and learning the ropes, Finally I could get a better life for my family.
Is best for you to wake up from your dream of a good life and start facing reality.
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If hes saying he cant find a job back in early 2000s... something must be wrong with himself... cos the job market was definitely better than now.... there were no FT then to snatch with you over your job....
I think he just gonna starve to death sooner or later...
And drx, i agree with you. Priorities given to NUS, NTU and SMU graduates for civil service and even some private organisations.... so if hes saying hes from NUS and has problems finding job for 10 years.. something is wrong with him, himself. -
I think the main problem with this guy is that he complains that he's got the grades, but his job opportunities do not commensurate with his grades.
What rubbish. Job opportunities are always there if you know how to look, if you're willing to work hard, and you're willing to have an open mind to allow for new experiences and exposure.
I can agree that good paper qualifications are a prerequisite to getting ahead in life. However, that is only half the story. The other half is all about what you do with those qualifications - do you use them as a stepping stone to get ahead, or do you just sit down and whine just because you can't get what you want?
These words are especially striking:
However, when I started work in an operations position, my pay was only SGD 2100 – way below the general market rate of SGD 2500 for fresh grads.
Eh hello, a lot of people start off below the general market rate. What differentiates the winners from the losers is that the winners suck it up, work their asses off and do their best to get ahead.
I can agree that our education system is not perfect in that it drills the importance of getting grades over getting knowledge.
But that said, the more intelligent thing for him to do would be to just work around the fallacies of our education system. If the skills taught are not good enough, then he should learn to upgrade. If he can't think critically because of it, then he should learn how to think critically!
Instead, he just wants to sit down and whine over how it has failed him. Duh.... since he knows what's wrong, then why not just get up and work on improving himself?
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something else has been bugging me about that article. there's no such thing as an ex-graduate. you either graduated or you didn't. perhaps TOC needs a better editor.
and yeah, the guy is a crybaby. if that is representative of the way he deals with problems its no wonder he can't get a permanent job.
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he is a failed producted. But not because of the education system or the uni. He is a failed product because intrinscially, he is "failed"
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Originally posted by av98m:
something else has been bugging me about that article. there's no such thing as an ex-graduate. you either graduated or you didn't. perhaps TOC needs a better editor.
and yeah, the guy is a crybaby. if that is representative of the way he deals with problems its no wonder he can't get a permanent job.
Agreed. There are two ways to deal with a problem:
1. Sit down and whine about it.
2. Identify the problem, figure out how to solve it, and actually go about solving it.
My sense of this guy after reading this article is that he belongs to (1).
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I think many people assume that just because a person is a uni grad, it means that she is able to perform well at any job by virtue of having a degree.
Nothing can be further away from the truth.
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Originally posted by charlize:
I think many people assume that just because a person is a uni grad, it means that she is able to perform well at any job by virtue of having a degree.
Nothing can be further away from the truth.
I think as long as she is able to perform well in bed she will be able to perform well at any job with or without a degree -
Originally posted by drx:
"I am a 35-year-old male home-grown Singapore Chinese citizen. I graduated in 2000 from NUS Business School and harboured high hope of a good life afterwards.
However, when I started work in an operations position, my pay was only SGD 2100 – way below the general market rate of SGD 2500 for fresh grads."
Looking at your statement, I feel like slapping you. Do you know how many jobs out there are only given to NUS, NTU and SMU grads. How many times singaporean overseas students like us never even had a chance to be even selected for an interview just because we have an overseas degree.
I was not so lucky like u to get into NUS, I had to slog and study to get my overseas degree, even then when we returned we were looked down by our employers.
my so call degree pay was only SGD 1200 when I first started out but I never gave up I worked hard and taking up jobs no people wants and learning the ropes, Finally I could get a better life for my family.
Is best for you to wake up from your dream of a good life and start facing reality.
so whats your current pay now? -
having a cert might open some doors. The rest is hard work, some smarts and sometimes a little luck.
The thing is, if there's lots of people who can get a permanent job... so he needs to just try harder
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Actually the guy is right you know
He is a failed product
BUT, by his own hands
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why he go and publish his photo for everybody to see?
Like that the whole singapore know about him and nobody wants to employ him in future.
Jialat lah
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Originally posted by hisoka:
he is a failed producted. But not because of the education system or the uni. He is a failed product because intrinscially, he is "failed"
u talking good gene bad gene? then how good is your gene? -
Record job vacancies last year
By Mustafa Shafawi | Posted: 28 January 2011 1758 hrs
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SINGAPORE : The number of job vacancies rose 36% over the year to 50,200 in September 2010.
According to the latest annual job vacancies report released by the Ministry of Manpower (MOM) on Friday, the rise in vacancies was driven by Singapore's rapid and robust economic recovery.
In fact, MOM said it was the highest number of job vacancies recorded since the comparable series started in March 2006.
The highest number of vacancies was for service & sales workers (10,330 or 22% of total vacancies), followed by professionals (8,270 or 18%) and associate professionals & technicians (8,230 or 18%).
Nevertheless, in terms of the three broad occupational groupings, employers were most looking to hire professionals, managers, executives & technicians (PMETs) (44%), followed by clerical, service & sales workers (29%) and production & transport operators, cleaners & labourers (27%).
Corroborating with the high demand for PMETs, positions requiring at least a university degree qualification made up the highest number of vacancies at 10,570 or 23% of total vacancies.
This was followed closely by openings requiring at least secondary (9,840 or 21%) qualifications, reflecting the strong demand for service & sales workers.
The services share of vacancies increased steadily from 68% in 2006 to 75% in 2010, reflecting the growing importance of the service economy.
Manufacturing contributed 17% of all vacancies in 2010, down from 26% in 2006.
MOM said the decline in manufacturing's share of vacancies partly reflects the continual restructuring of the sector towards high tech and value-added activities.
With the completion of major building projects, construction's share of vacancies declined to 6.6% in 2010, from 8.1% in 2009, after rising from 4.2% in 2006.
Five in eight vacancies (63%) in 2010 required working experience, comparable with a year ago (62%).
Overall, job-specific experience (26%) was a more common requirement than industry-specific (19%) and general working experience (19%).
Amid the tighter labour market, one in three (33%) vacancies was unfilled for at least six months.
The MOM said due to the record level of job openings, the number of openings vacant for at least six months rose from 10,140 in 2009 to a five-year high of 15,360 in 2010.
Eight in 10 (81%) of these vacancies were for non-PMETs and the remaining (19%) were for PMETs.
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Really ah.....then how come so many many pmets struggling.....
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Lots of good news in the papers today.
Bumper issue of good news.
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Originally posted by Rock^Star:
Really ah.....then how come so many many pmets struggling.....
What the media tells you and what you see and feel on the ground are 2 very different things.
Really.
More so during election year.