[openBVE] Fictional : Urban Line
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Route
Urban Line Is A New Fictional Line By Urban Transit Using RouteBuilder
Developer: Felix :p
Co-Developer: Bryanwee1
Helper: Nickgoh45
It Will Be Running C751B
They Will Be 28 Station In 4 Stages Which Will Open Between Feb 2011 To Aug 2011
Development Starts On 12 Dec 2010 Ends Aug 2011
Stations Name, Stations Design For Stage 1 And Urban Transit Logo!
Station Name:
Stations Design For Stage 1
Urban Transit Logo!
Sry For Not Giving Some Of The Photos On THIS Topic As There Is A Glitch
Development Started 11/12/2010
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Trains
Urban Transit Trains Beta
Developer:Bngauw
Co-Developer: Felix :p
Screenshots Plz Click The Link.
http://flic.kr/p/91jg3b For Head
http://flic.kr/p/91g3CF For Train Body
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Others
To All People In Sgforums (BVE Trains),
I Apologize For Locking The Tread Because Due To An Error In Route Builder I Have To Put This Route On Hold. There Are ScreenShots Below , If U Know These Problem, Please Write In The Tread After Joey Unlock The Tread. You May Also Be An Beta-Tester For The Beta Route Or/And Train If You Help Me With This Error
Regards,
Felix
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Another Line?? Maybe you can think of a fictitious country? Singapore Rapid Trains Transport makes SG BVE sound unrealistic. Also, how are you gonna tender a line that has BOTH a Three Car Train and Six Car Train? And it's only One Line.
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Originally posted by Bngauw:
Another Line?? Maybe you can think of a fictitious country? Singapore Rapid Trains Transport makes SG BVE sound unrealistic. Also, how are you gonna tender a line that has BOTH a Three Car Train and Six Car Train? And it's only One Line.
It's possible in other countries.
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Originally posted by joeyfjj:
It's possible in other countries.
Oh yeah. Like London when they changed the rolling stock. But the C830 will look terribly short in the station.
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Trains And Train Operater Changed Althought MUTT Sounds Funny
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Originally posted by Felix :p:
Urban Line Is A New Fictional Line By Modern Urban Train Transport (MUTT) Using RouteBuilder
It Will Be Running C151 And C751B
BUT I Have Not Make Any Designs And Station Names, So Everybody Can Suggests Station Name And Design
Q1. How To Send The Design To Me
A1 You Can Scan The Design Or Use MS Paint And Send The Image To The Forum
Q2. Stations Name
A2. You Can Give Me The The Stations Name And Put The Names In This Forum
Q3. How Many Stations Are They?
A3. They Will Be 28 Station, Open In 4 Phrases Which Will Be Told After 12/12/2010
You May Put The Stations Name And Design By 11/12/2010
Hurry!
It is not phrases , it is phases
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Reason: Unnecessary post
Original post: "You need proof that you’re doing the line, screenshot or video."
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Originally posted by Funkymark4211:
You need proof that you’re doing the line, screenshot or video.
Look, he doesn't even have a station design.Edit: He hasn't have a station design. So there shouldn't be any screenshots yet. He could just use default station. To those whom said I'm critising, Sorry.
Note by me: It was before the route description was changed and thus, replying to funkymark4211..
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err stations name coming up train operater changed
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Hello? Do you know that it is very hard to think of a route to make? It takes alot of creativity to make up station names and designs you know? You think you just find a random word in a dictionary and just smack that word as the station name? You have to mix and match words to make up one station name. As for station designs, you have to think very hard to make one you see? Fictional routes are like that, it's very hard to think of new elements in the route.
And also, SGBVE won't sound unrealistic even though the operator name doesn't sound very nice. In fact, it makes the route more unique. Only one line, so what? It's at least better than nothing.
No one cares if any other train doesn't fit into the station or anything as the station is designed to fit its designated train. Any other train which goes in, it's just for fun, and no realism is to be expected.
Please, put your shoes into the route developers' before saying such things.
The above letter was written by Willis Chong, he appears to have problems posting this on SGForums, therefore I'm posting this on his behalf.
As for me, all I can say is, I'm already having tons of trouble thinking up of fictional names that are sensible and are not dumb. Names like "Sillytown" or "Thundervale" do not make the cut for realism.
Fictional routes are tough to make, I can't say I'm experienced in creating them. You guys don't have any idea how much time I spend sitting and thinking up of names. After the station names are done up, then here comes the station architecture part. You don't just think I jump straight into the creating of the roofing of the station in CSV, do you? I actually spend an hour designing a station. All stations on the Blackton Line have a particular design behind them, and I painstakingly take an hour to draw the plans out. I already have done up 4 station plans (which are Townsville, Science Park, Benoi and the future-to-be station between Benoi and Museum).
My words may sound harsh here, but recently there has been a sudden surge in fictional cities springing up. It isn't as easy as you think to design a city's transit infrastructure. The original plans of Harbourvale City were far from what they are today. There was no such thing as the Kegstone Line, City Line or even the District LRT.
A fictional city comes a long way from scratch. The hugest difficulty about fictional routes, is to create a fictional city from elements from the real world. Some of my textures are actually real world textures and they are used in many different ways. For example, an image of a road viaduct in Singapore can be used to texture a metro viaduct in Harbourvale.
My routes place an emphasis on station design, because honestly I think that is the only component that separates your routes from other typical fictional routes.
Once again, I apologise for the harsh words. I typed this in reply to Bngauw's comment, "Look, he doesn't even have a station design."
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Originally posted by Bngauw:
Another Line?? Maybe you can think of a fictitious country? Singapore Rapid Trains Transport makes SG BVE sound unrealistic. Also, how are you gonna tender a line that has BOTH a Three Car Train and Six Car Train? And it's only One Line.
And by the way, Felix is intending to do four routes, not just one. All will be scheduled to be released by December 2013. Developers like him set their sights far ahead, and these are the developers that will eventually succeed. He may be an amateur now, but I'm sure that he will soon be turning out quality work when he masters coding. -
Letter to Bngauw:
Excuse me? Do you know that it is very difficult to think about a station's design? It takes alot of creativity to think of designs. As for me, I can't really say that I'm good in designing. You don't know I've spent how much precious time I've spend on designs. You know, I don't just straight away jump into coding the station design after i finish the route skeleton, I spend time designing them on paper/drawing programmes on my computer. I guess you've just seen my Kegstone Line Gateway station's design. You see, the design, I've spend 1D and 1N designing the station. So you see, Nickgoh's Harbourvale Line/North West Line/Other Lines have so many beautiful stations. Cos' he spent time thinking (As stated @ the above post). And, I have to spent my free time checking other country train station videos/pictures. For what? For the station designs! And I've to consider if their designs suits the area/station name a not. I take 1 hour to draw out the station plans, only when i have the inspiration of a design. So please, after I tell you my 'story' of designing stations, I seriously hope that you can change your thinking. It's not easy to think up with a station design. And, that's all I've to say.
From: Bryanwee1 -
Originally posted by Funkymark4211:
You need proof that you’re doing the line, screenshot or video.
Urban Line Is A New Fictional Line By Urban Transit Using RouteBuilder
Developer: Felix :p
Co-Developer:-
Helper: Nickgoh45
It Will Be Running C151 And C751B
They Will Be 28 Station In 4 Phases Which Will Open Between Feb 2011 To Aug 2011
Development Starts On 12 Dec 2010
IT STARTS on 12 DEC
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I am granting special permission to this thread. We will not lock this thread until 14/12/2010. Felix must post an update by 14/12/2010 23:59 . Joey and I are aware of this special permission.
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Originally posted by Bngauw:
Look, he doesn't even have a station design.Hey, incase you don't know, this statement is rather insulting you know?
I am rather ok with this 3car and 6car rolling stock mix, but is there a formula to stuck the doors of the PSD for the other three car?
I have no idea about creating routes for openBVE, but i love playing the game. I think Nickgoh45 had done a really good job in creating his Harbourvale city....
Agree with Nickgoh45 and Bryanwee1. Designing a station takes time, it is not just 1 minute job you know? If you can do that do it now. I would love to help in designing on paper, not on the routebuilder, basically coz i had no interest in development. :)
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Originally posted by SBS8214Z:
Hey, incase you don't know, this statement is rather insulting you know?
I am rather ok with this 3car and 6car rolling stock mix, but is there a formula to stuck the doors of the PSD for the other three car?
I have no idea about creating routes for openBVE, but i love playing the game. I think Nickgoh45 had done a really good job in creating his Harbourvale city....
Agree with Nickgoh45 and Bryanwee1. Designing a station takes time, it is not just 1 minute job you know? If you can do that do it now. I would love to help in designing on paper, not on the routebuilder, basically coz i had no interest in development. :)
There is a way to stop the PSD doors of the non-3 car PSD doors from opening. It can be seen in action in the HK animated PSDs. So you need not worry about this aspect when it comes to the rolling stock mix.It isn't fictional for rolling stock mixes. New York has different carriage formations and they are used during different times of the day. There may be about 10 carriages during peak hours and only 4 carriages in the non-peak hours.
And to Bngauw: If you think the C830 will look terribly short in the station, all you have to do is to place the C830's stopping position such that the C830 stops in the middle of the station. That way the C830 won't look too short.
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This post is not directed/pointed to anyone, that means I am not insulting anyone here.
Station design don't just take one day to complete. It can take days, weeks or even months, especially if it is very complex. New developers don't straight away learn how to code stuff, it takes time. You can't just jump to conclusions that if any developer, whether be it an amateur or professional, creates a thread must already have created the skeleton of the route or other stuff. The developer should have enough time which is 2 days to provide proof, but of course I can't say anything if the developer doesn't provide proof.
Giving negative critisicms will discourage the developer and as long as there are many negative critisicms, the developer will be discouraged and soon the developer will stop developing for BVE, or even worse, quit BVE for good. It's like many people stealing a developer's objects from a realistic route. The developer will soon get angry and so he can either remove the download and develop for himself OR leave the BVE community for good because of these kind of people in the society.
Now since Felix have extra time to post proof, it's best to lower down the requests for proof. Give the developer some time to do the route and stations. Why lower the requests down? Because the more you request for proof, the more the developer will have to RUSH. Rushed work doesn't look good right? Everyone in the BVE community knows that.
I don't mind if many fictional lines/cities suddenly appear here, as long as they have potential in them.
Hope this letter, and letters above me will knock some sense into people's head.
"Developing don't take just a day to perfect. It takes months or even years." - Me
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Thread locked until you guys cool down.
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All this fuss was before Felix changed his post. I was also replying to Funkymark4211. Sorry for causing all the arguement and causing everybody here to hate me. All you people started replying After Felix changed his post. And I knew nothing better yet. (Please Note I'm not trying to add more oil into the fire. I'm just expressing what I feel. Thank You. At Least One Doesn't Hate Me. But Pointed out a fact.)
Edit: Bolding of my important points and spelling errors.
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Originally posted by Bngauw:
All this fuss was before Felix changed his post. I was also replying to Funkymark4211. Sorry for causing all the arguement and cause everybody here to hate me. All you people started replying After Felix changed his post. And I knew nothing better yet. (Please Note I'm not trying to add more oil into the fire. I'm just expressing what I feel. Thank Up.)
Remember, my letter is not pointing towards you, so that means I don't hate you :P
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Originally posted by jerryonhere:
Remember, my letter is not pointing towards you, so that means I don't hate you :P
LDAC...
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Originally posted by Bngauw:
All this fuss was before Felix changed his post. I was also replying to Funkymark4211. Sorry for causing all the arguement and causing everybody here to hate me. All you people started replying After Felix changed his post. And I knew nothing better yet. (Please Note I'm not trying to add more oil into the fire. I'm just expressing what I feel. Thank Up. At Least One Doesn't Hate Me. But Pointed out a fact.)
Well, now that you apologise, we won't continue kicking up a big fuss. And yes, when we use harsh words, it doesn't necessarily mean we hate somebody. :)I also apologise for using lots of harsh words, don't take it to heart. Just keep in mind that it isn't easy to do a fictional route, let alone a fictional city.
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Originally posted by Nickgoh45:
Well, now that you apologise, we won't continue kicking up a big fuss. And yes, when we use harsh words, it doesn't necessarily mean we hate somebody. :)I also apologise for using lots of harsh words, don't take it to heart. Just keep in mind that it isn't easy to do a fictional route, let alone a fictional city.
I can see that. I'm learning routes next year. I work mainly on editing trains and maybe focusing on trains. (I know everything a little OT Because of the fuss started by me lah.) -
Originally posted by Bngauw:
I can see that. I'm learning routes next year. I work mainly on editing trains and maybe focusing on trains. (I know everything a little OT Because of the fuss started by me lah.)If everything is solved, I'll remove all the unrelated posts here, is that OK?
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Originally posted by joeyfjj:
If everything is solved, I'll remove all the unrelated posts here, is that OK?
Everything is resolved. Don't delete my apology post though. I need people to see that I apologised and my side of the story.