Originally posted by Rooney9:3rd defeat of the season. united still to face arsenal, spurs and chelsea. United's away form is so horrendes, maybe will lose to arsenal.
I think they will lose all the away matches against these sides. Come on, the best they did away against title contender is to draw against City.
I really loose faith in the current crop of United players. Uninspiring. Rooney's episode earlier in the season is another f-up moment.
I'm sad but I have to admit it, United were thumped in all areas on the pitch. Toothless in attack, Porous in defence. A team overhaul maybe?
What's more to come: Fergie's retirement. I'm sure United fans are going to suffer for a long long time unless some good news comes in (Qatari takeover)
liverpool can stop man utd from winning this game.
but
liverpool cannot stop man utd from winning the title.
its still in man utd hands.
the ref is scared to send off carragher, because it is an Anfield. if he doesnt send off carragher, he also cant send off Rafael, who should also be sent off for his intent.
Originally posted by zocoss:If this match showed anything, it is United can't go on without Rio and Vidic... Brown is very poor, no wonder he hardly play these days...
Overall, I think United can afford to lose this after Arsenal's surprise draw yesterday... Cos this last 2 matches were expected to be more difficult... And their today's performance is without Rio and Vidic. Those 2 are expected to be back next week so I think they will do much better in defending... And together with the soon to return of Valencis, Park and Anderson... There is more hope.
It is the lost of Nani that I am more concern with... Hope it isn't too serious cos he is the most creative player for United this season... If United lose him for the remainder of the season... Then I think the title it's over for them.
It is another poor decision by the referee not to send Carragher off for that challenge on Nani...
I think the United can kiss the title goodbye for good. They have not learnt their lesson. It's a harsh one to learn but I really hope Arsenal can pip them to the title.
I've lost all faith for them. I think even if Vidic and Rio played in this match, the result will not change too. The simple reason is the midfield battle has already been lost before it even started. Carrick can even trip on the ball! Would you believe that?! Scholes is on the decline, no questions about that. He was really rash today and could have gotten himself sent off. Giggs, try as he might, failed to deliver a single decent cross before Chicharito's consolation. Nani should just concentrate on playing and not showboating.
Really nothing to say about this match. Liverpool simply outplayed United.
I'm worrying about defence. No leader on the pitch. Brown plays with his mouth shut. Smalling is still green. Evra and Rafael are busy attacking.
No leader on the pitch, defenders suddenly forget their job? All those runs that could easily be tracked, or are usually tracked in other games when Vidic is on the pitch. Die lah like that.
I am not looking forward to Arsenal next week.
Originally posted by CKeer:I think the United can kiss the title goodbye for good. They have not learnt their lesson. It's a harsh one to learn but I really hope Arsenal can pip them to the title.
I've lost all faith for them. I think even if Vidic and Rio played in this match, the result will not change too. The simple reason is the midfield battle has already been lost before it even started. Carrick can even trip on the ball! Would you believe that?! Scholes is on the decline, no questions about that. He was really rash today and could have gotten himself sent off. Giggs, try as he might, failed to deliver a single decent cross before Chicharito's consolation. Nani should just concentrate on playing and not showboating.
I completely agree with the part about not learning their lesson.
I personally wish Park and Valencia was around for this. They may not be the best, but they are effective and at least they have some form of a drive to get things forward. I really hate to see Carrick on the pitch.
Originally posted by Keii:Really nothing to say about this match. Liverpool simply outplayed United.
I'm worrying about defence. No leader on the pitch. Brown plays with his mouth shut. Smalling is still green. Evra and Rafael are busy attacking.
No leader on the pitch, defenders suddenly forget their job? All those runs that could easily be tracked, or are usually tracked in other games when Vidic is on the pitch. Die lah like that.
I am not looking forward to Arsenal next week.
Arsenal has their own problems.. once in a while, they will start to fire blanks...
with RvP injured, and on a run of no victories, they could be in trouble too..
Originally posted by Keii:
I completely agree with the part about not learning their lesson.
I personally wish Park and Valencia was around for this. They may not be the best, but they are effective and at least they have some form of a drive to get things forward. I really hate to see Carrick on the pitch.
I'm really very disappointed today. Right now I'm staring at 3 straight EPL defeats. *sigh.
Carrick is an invisible man until today! I finally saw his contribution: Falling over a football. Nice.
Originally posted by the Bear:Arsenal has their own problems.. once in a while, they will start to fire blanks...
with RvP injured, and on a run of no victories, they could be in trouble too..
They fire blanks but they entertained and earned a point.
United play crappy football and goodness me, that's not entertaining at all and they got no point!
Also, RIP Dean Richards.
Originally posted by the Bear:Arsenal has their own problems.. once in a while, they will start to fire blanks...
with RvP injured, and on a run of no victories, they could be in trouble too..
At least Arsenal doesn't give away chickenshit goals like United just did.
Originally posted by Rooney9:3rd defeat of the season. united still to face arsenal, spurs and chelsea. United's away form is so horrendes, maybe will lose to arsenal.
erm spurs already finish with home win and away draw... just left arsenal and chelsea... well man utd midfielder really cui.. how i wish i can throw 3 angrybirds to bomb them off lol
Originally posted by CKeer:I think the United can kiss the title goodbye for good. They have not learnt their lesson. It's a harsh one to learn but I really hope Arsenal can pip them to the title.
I've lost all faith for them. I think even if Vidic and Rio played in this match, the result will not change too. The simple reason is the midfield battle has already been lost before it even started. Carrick can even trip on the ball! Would you believe that?! Scholes is on the decline, no questions about that. He was really rash today and could have gotten himself sent off. Giggs, try as he might, failed to deliver a single decent cross before Chicharito's consolation. Nani should just concentrate on playing and not showboating.
Don't lose the faith... Yes they played poorly today but it was kind of expected with the unknown factor of not having Rio and Vidic for today's match... They will be back very soon so keep the faith.
Arsenal unexpectedly dropping 2 points in a home match yesterday is very important... Cos even if the win that game in hand, it would only mean they are on equal points... When I see the remainding fixtures, I find Arsenal's more tricky than United's...
So don't lose heart and keep the faith man... lol.
Arsenal's...
5 Sunderland (H)
19 West Brom (A)
2 Blackburn (H)
9 Blackpool (A)
16 Liverpool (H)
23 Bolton (A)
30 Man Utd (H)
7 Stoke (A)
14 Aston Villa (H)
22 Fulham (A)
Man United's...
5 Liverpool (A)
19 Bolton (H)
2 West Ham (A)
9 Fulham (H)
16 Newcastle (A)
23 Everton (H)
30 Arsenal (A)
7 Chelsea (H)
14 Blackburn (A)
22 Blackpool (H)
Originally posted by the Bear:Arsenal has their own problems.. once in a while, they will start to fire blanks...
with RvP injured, and on a run of no victories, they could be in trouble too..
If Arsenal gets knock out in the CL by Barce this tues, it could actually be a good thing for them as they will play lesser and can fully concentrate for the premier league like Chelsea last season...
Personally, I wouldn't mind United go out in the CL if it helps them to the premier league title... lol.
For the whole season,Carrick's a goner...enough said. I don't understand why he signs a new contract again.I hope maybe cos hoping that we can fetch a better price for this guy or because of the home grown rule.
Brown's quite bad,partly because he hasn't got the momentum of games,whole of this season he's appeared for less than 10times..
The midfield needs a completed overhaul.Fergie needs to get gd replacements for the 2 oldies plus 1 solid DMC who can tackle,not like carrick who shuns challenges,play like a weakling,he should just change the number.16 is only for warrior like KEANE.
Rooney despite scoring his 2 wonder goals against chelsea and ManC is still poor.His overall game play is disappointing,crosses inaccurate,first touch too heavy,running straight...his fire has gone down abit too.With this kind of performances,definitely not worth his new contract of up to 200,000 pounds per week.
Why is that when United lose, Arsenal, Liverpool,Chelsea and City fans come together as one and condemned us United like there is no tmr.
I kinda like that though....make me feel like we are one strong team. Lol!
Has Fergie faith in giggs and scholes in crucial matches and no faith in other players even though fletcher was fit to play and was on the bench, even though they are 37 & 36 already. last season double header, both giggs and scholes also played in home and away, not to mention gary neville, when all 3 played in the home defeat against chelsea. you need fletcher in away matches to do the dirty work. carrick and scholes combo in away matches, is a dead giveaway to the home team. united midfield is overran by Gerrad and Lucas at will today. Carrick is weak in tackles as usual, and his passing has gone from bad to worse. as for scholes, you cant expect him to play in 2 consecutive matches, esp against your rivals. He hasnt the legs to last the entire match because he is 36 already, as simple as that.
Carragher's tackle on Nani : http://www.epltalk.com/nanis-horrific-injury-from-jamie-carraghers-tackle-photos-29893
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i feared we would lose... and we did. but after some pondering, i am glad we lost.
in fact, i hope we lose to lyon also and win NOTHING this season.
ideal scenario: we win nothing. fans revolt. need to rebuild squad. no money. fans revolt more. owners forced to sell. qatarians drop by and shop for united. gives 500m transfer funds. game on.
signing carrick is a major facepalm. tactics was totally wrong last night. missing 1st choice cbs and no fletchy somemore. need to fine rafael 2 weeks wages.
The whole thread nobody mention Saurez?
He did all the work for the first goal and his curling freekick for the 3rd goal made it possible for Kuyt to score.
Kuyt was just at the right place at the right time for all 3 goals.
I would think Saurez deserved more credit than Kuyt in this game.
Actually giggs has been misplacing passes for a long time this season. What gave him a new contract was flashes of brilliance in a number of matches. Scholes shd retire as backroom staff, like neville. Omg and carrick.....his presence makes the midfield lacking in bite.
Pls pls.....I hope we get someone like roy keane, zidane or gattuso in june.
Half of me is hoping man u wakes up. The other half tells me they shd just lose the title fight. And rafael shd really check his temper, I thought he wld have learnt better since that debacle in munich. Behaving like a wild child, unprofessional.
I don't know what's up with Nani.
At first I thought the injury to him was not serious because he could get up to confront the referee after the tackle.
But when Gerrard held him back, he fell to the ground and started crying and rolling around.
I was like wtf.
Man U will trounce Arsenal just like they did in 2 previous encounters at Emirates. Man U used counter attack to do so.
HT: Defensive
2nd half: Kept on attacking
So, Man U should not have played defensively since you know Kops are coming out for attach. Man U was much better in 2nd half but too late...
Don't lose heart guys... Honestly, would we rather be in Liverpool's position or our current place?
We lost the battle but the war is still very much winnable... So keep the faith.