Originally posted by dinky1409:they looked really tired for the past few matches.. isit really fatigue? and the defence is quite dodgy..
Evra hasnt been the same since he came back from injury.
Hopefully Ronaldo was watching Messi in action against Bayern, no need for any fancy tricks to get pass defenders, just simple dribbling. and track back please!
Reason 1 : Complacency
When they feel they they are almost winning every match.
Reason 2 : I see almost the same repeated faces in all matches
Reason 3 : Van der sar Wearing blue
Reason 5: Relia too much on Ronaldo
think they got a sure win attitude. + abit of tired. ronaldo dont seem to be performing too well nowadays.
we need solid centre backs and fullbacks neville oshea just aint right for the jobs
There is no choice right now... Rio, Brown and Rafael are all out injured... I doubt very much the O'Shea, the Neville, or the Evans would be playing so much if they were fit and able... United are suffering a very bad spell of injury where its all long term ones... Rafael is out for like what, 1, 2 months already? Brown like 4, 5 months now... Hopefully they will return soon...
yeh i think VDS shd stop wearing blue! Man U plays like shit everytime he wears that color! lol.
anyone still remembers how hulk got past vidic and then was clumsily knocked down at the edge of the box on the "out" line? it seems that w/o ferdinand, vidic looks shaky. A striker like torres can easily make a fool out of him.
not to mention oshea and gary neville is crap now.
Originally posted by Sienx:not to mention oshea and gary neville is crap now.
be fair.
Joshea was playing well @ left when he was swapped to the right, and then sometimes, centre. Man, how to sustain your momentum.
And Gary is out for so long, and in his 2nd game, what you expect him?
Originally posted by Rock^Star:yeh i think VDS shd stop wearing blue! Man U plays like shit everytime he wears that color! lol.
anyone still remembers how hulk got past vidic and then was clumsily knocked down at the edge of the box on the "out" line? it seems that w/o ferdinand, vidic looks shaky. A striker like torres can easily make a fool out of him.
one thing came to mind when I saw porto, what they feeding them?
even their left back is as big as Vidic.. Scary...
April 08, 2009
SIR Alex
Ferguson has admitted United's defensive resolve has collapsed since
their amazing clean-sheet record was brought to an end by Blackburn.
It
is hard to comprehend how a team that can set a new Premier League best
of 14 successive clean sheets should suddenly appear so vulnerable.
The
10 goals United have conceded in their last four games is the same
number it took 22 matches to let in prior to the Old Trafford hammering
by Liverpool on March 14.
But Ferguson believes the actual
malaise dates back a further three weeks, when Blackburn were
distinctly unlucky to suffer a 2-1 defeat to the Reds, having outplayed
the world club champions for long spells.
What Sam
Allardyce's side did manage to do was score, through Roque Santa Cruz.
It robbed United of an in-built need to concentrate, and they have
never recovered.
"We were doing very well when we weren't conceding any goals because there was a record to defend," recalled Ferguson.
"Once
we lost that first goal against Blackburn, the battle to try to keep
the record had gone. Since then we have lost really bad goals."
Injuries
and poor form have also come together at just the wrong time, a deadly
combination from which, at present, there seems to be no escape.
When
Rio Ferdinand returned from the Club World Cup in Japan with a back
injury that kept him out for five weeks, Jonny Evans stepped
brilliantly into the breach.
But now Ferdinand is
sidelined again, Evans' confidence has ebbed as the rigours of playing
so many games have caught up with his 21-year-old legs.
Presence
Similarly,
the once reliable presence of John O'Shea, who was superb at left-back
when Patrice Evra was ruled out by suspension and then injury, is
struggling for form after being switched to the other full-back
position and then centre-half last night when Evans went off with a
groin injury that makes him a doubt for next week's second leg with
Porto.
Nemanja Vidic's recent disciplinary troubles mean
he was starting only his fifth game out of nine in last night's 2-2
draw and the rustiness showed.
The list of senior men
currently operating well below their peak is lengthy and includes Evra,
plus Michael Carrick and Paul Scholes, who can normally be relied upon
to keep possession but are currently giving it away with alarming
regularity.
Gary Neville is only just back off the
treatment table, Dimitar Berbatov, Anderson, Wes Brown and Rafael da
Silva are on it, along with Ferdinand, whose groin injury has not given
Ferguson any sign of clearing up.
Little wonder it seems
like Wayne Rooney is carrying the fight on his own, with occasional
flashes of genius from Cristiano Ronaldo, Carlos Tevez and Federico
Macheda.
Indeed, given the importance of next week's
second leg and the need to retain an element of freshness for Portugal,
it would be no surprise if Macheda was handed his first start on
Saturday, when the Premier League leaders head to relegation-threatened
Sunderland.
O'Shea is set to partner Vidic in defence as
United attempt to subdue Kenwyne Jones rather more effectively than
they managed with Aston Villa's John Carew on Sunday.
However, the problem of fatigue goes far deeper.
"We are suffering," said Ferguson.
"Park Ji-sung is the one player who never misses a beat in terms of his movement and endurance work in a game.
"He has such natural stamina. He was well off the pace last night and looked tired."
Park's
World Cup commitment to South Korea could not have helped, one of the
reasons Ferguson felt he was placed in an unfair position last weekend
when he was forced to choose between facing Villa on Saturday lunchtime
with no preparation, or Sunday afternoon knowing aching limbs could
drain his team last night.
Only the foolhardy would write off United's chances of overcoming Porto in the second leg next week.
But
Ferguson also knows he must look beyond the task of ensuring United
become the first English team to beat the Portuguese champions on their
own soil after 11 previously failed attempts.
For, if
United do fall, the Scot will have a major job on his hands trying to
raise spirits in a squad that sees the finishing line too far away to
simply drop across. And hungry predators from Merseyside - Rafael
Benitez in the Premier League and David Moyes in the FA Cup - are lying
in wait to pounce themselves.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/manchester_united/s/1107444_fergie_pinpoints_defensive_lapse?rss=yes
Originally posted by iceFatboy:one thing came to mind when I saw porto, what they feeding them?
even their left back is as big as Vidic.. Scary...
oh they were that big? didnt notice lol. But they are super fit....running and running. I thought those in EPL are the fittest?
if man u can win in oporto...if they can achieve this feat, then i'd say they can go on to win the quintuple; against all odds.
Jonny Evans admits Manchester United could have given more during Tuesday’s 2-2 Champions League draw with Porto.
Evans was one of many under-performers in the United side at Old Trafford, making a poor error as the Portuguese ambushed their hosts from the opening whistle.
Having gone on a record run without conceding, United have now conceded twice against Fulham, Aston Villa and Porto, and four times against Liverpool.
Evans admits complacency has crept into the camp, and he sheepishly confirmed that Sir Alex Ferguson’s men have not been fighting for the red jersey.
“Maybe it’s our own fault, maybe we’ve become a bit complacent,” Evans was quoted as saying in The Sun.
“We haven’t been defending for our lives as well as we should have.
“It’s something we have to address.”
Originally posted by Rock^Star:
oh they were that big? didnt notice lol. But they are super fit....running and running. I thought those in EPL are the fittest?
they were not very fit, I think they came with a plan to hit MU in the first 20mins cause they know MU just played a tough game vs Villa a few days ago. Actually, I tot the last 20mins were their weakest, but ironically, also United..