Which Euro 2008 star would you most like to see at Old Traff
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As it looks like United might at least get a substantial windfall should Cristiano Ronaldo leave the club, the Reds are almost certainly searching for a number of big-name replacements.
And the Euro 2008 tournament is like one big supermarket for top players.
But who has caught your eye most at the tournament and who should United be priming their cheque book for?
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Err.. lols Villa maybe.. but none really fancy me so far.. haha
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like alot of hype on Arshavin...i havent see him play before though.
maybe can finally have a look if Russia progress to finals.
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Podolski
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Arshavin, Schweinsteiger, Villa, Modric (pity he went to Tottenham), Akinfeev...
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Actually, this Euro didn't bring out any nice good players that impress me very much tho... I rather United stick to their original targets like Richards, Bervatov, Valencia...
Anyway, if have to pick one, i go for Spain no 17... That big striker that seem to impress me more than Arshavin... He is big and strong... good for the premiership... like Bervatov, Santa cruz and Drogba...
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podolski can replace ronaldo anytime
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Originally posted by gigabyte14:
podolski can replace ronaldo anytime
sadly, I don't think so. Players like ronaldo are unique, and it is a sad loss if MU loses him. I too are irked by his attitude, but when MU has him, it is a different team.
nani is still wet behind the ears but he has alot of potentials..
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schweinsteiger...confrim
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I won't mind Schweinsteiger replacing Ronaldo, he runs in from wide position to score goals (recall the goals he scored against Portugal and Turkey). He resembles how Ronaldo plays, so hence I think he can replace Ronaldo.
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torres!~
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Wesley
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Lets all be honest... There is no one on this planet that is able to replace Ronaldo... The guy is just too good at the moment... All the names mentioned here are no where near him... Even Kaka or Messi are not able to score that number of goals in a season...
All we can do is hope he stays. But if he don't, we would wish United get something like $65 million pounds in return as it will allow them to buy an extra 2 to 3 quality players...
Actually United fans don't need to feel angry or upset at all... Ronaldo was suppose to leave 2 years ago already after the Rooney incident but instead stayed back and help them won the premiership titles and the champions league as well... Had he left 2 yrs ago, I think United would only have got something like $20m for him... But now they are looking at a record fee...
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lee man hon.
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steven lee.. so when supersub he can score..
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Originally posted by monoslayer:
lee man hon.
wow, really smart.. want to add Fandi also??
Sorry, just find I am allegric to such cold humour.
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Originally posted by zocoss:
Lets all be honest... There is no one on this planet that is able to replace Ronaldo... The guy is just too good at the moment... All the names mentioned here are no where near him... Even Kaka or Messi are not able to score that number of goals in a season...
All we can do is hope he stays. But if he don't, we would wish United get something like $65 million pounds in return as it will allow them to buy an extra 2 to 3 quality players...
Actually United fans don't need to feel angry or upset at all... Ronaldo was suppose to leave 2 years ago already after the Rooney incident but instead stayed back and help them won the premiership titles and the champions league as well... Had he left 2 yrs ago, I think United would only have got something like $20m for him... But now they are looking at a record fee...
true, in terms of goal scoring, he got to two good seasons. not only this but previous one also.
However, in terms of impact, I still rate Messi above Ronaldo.
If Messi is at MUFC, and SAF can mould him like Ronaldo, Messi may be even more productive. Now, no offense to Barca, I am just saying MUFC would use Messi differently than in Barca, and then, we can see the full impact of what Messi can do.
Just like Ronaldo, Messi is just one of a kind player and Clubs should fight tooth and nail to keep them.
However, Ronaldo's heart has went to spain, and unless SAF can turn his head, United should maxmise and sell.
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Originally posted by iceFatboy:
true, in terms of goal scoring, he got to two good seasons. not only this but previous one also.
However, in terms of impact, I still rate Messi above Ronaldo.
If Messi is at MUFC, and SAF can mould him like Ronaldo, Messi may be even more productive. Now, no offense to Barca, I am just saying MUFC would use Messi differently than in Barca, and then, we can see the full impact of what Messi can do.
Just like Ronaldo, Messi is just one of a kind player and Clubs should fight tooth and nail to keep them.
However, Ronaldo's heart has went to spain, and unless SAF can turn his head, United should maxmise and sell.
Its not just about goal scoring or the last 2 seasons... Its his improvement that make him stand out... From 2003-04 to 07-08, his goal tallies rose as: 4, 5, 9, 17 and 31.Messi's is another great player but his impact is only mostly felt on the wing and to be more precise, mostly right-wing only... Whereas Ronny has effectively become a team's play-maker apart from its goal getter...
Its all hypothetical to say Messi will be a better player if he was at Man utd... But what I do feel is even in La Liga, he is injury prone... Some players are just like this... Robben, Kewell, and even Giggs... and its not just their physical build, cos when Ronny first came he was also rather small size but even then, he don't get injure easily unlike Messi and if Messi was to come to the more robust EPL, i belief he will spend more time on the treatment table than actually playing on the field... cos he still come across as a rather fragile player...
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Originally posted by zocoss:
Its not just about goal scoring or the last 2 seasons... Its his improvement that make him stand out... From 2003-04 to 07-08, his goal tallies rose as: 4, 5, 9, 17 and 31.Messi's is another great player but his impact is only mostly felt on the wing and to be more precise, mostly right-wing only... Whereas Ronny has effectively become a team's play-maker apart from its goal getter...
Its all hypothetical to say Messi will be a better player if he was at Man utd... But what I do feel is even in La Liga, he is injury prone... Some players are just like this... Robben, Kewell, and even Giggs... and its not just their physical build, cos when Ronny first came he was also rather small size but even then, he don't get injure easily unlike Messi and if Messi was to come to the more robust EPL, i belief he will spend more time on the treatment table than actually playing on the field... cos he still come across as a rather fragile player...
Well, it is true messi is more injury prone & never have aerial power of Ronaldo.
Do rem, Ronaldo was bought to replace another No7, a Right winger.And for first two seasons, his play was purely a winger.
Only with the sale of Ruud and Saha's Injury did he managed to flourish. Cause effectively, MU is without a target man, and switches to this mobile attack of Rooney, Tevez and Ronaldo. And this is where Ronaldo soared, and hence "team"-player.
@ the last meetings between Barca and MU, Messi was clearly the greater threat. he was drifting from left, right and centre. I felt he just did not have the proper support. Rem when Barca won the European Champions, Messi was superb.
Despite his injury concerns, he is not built like Robben, Kewell or Giggs, in that they are slender and build for speed. Messi is stocky and reminds me of one Maradona. I think Ronaldo was less muscular when he first came, like a Nani, but has added a lot of bulk since then.
As for whether he can shine in MU, one thing is for sure, if SAF treats him the way he did with Giggs,Ronaldo, he will be more productive.
Well, I am not saying Ronaldo pales but just that Messi has more impact when fit.
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Originally posted by iceFatboy:
Well, it is true messi is more injury prone & never have aerial power of Ronaldo.
Do rem, Ronaldo was bought to replace another No7, a Right winger.And for first two seasons, his play was purely a winger.
Only with the sale of Ruud and Saha's Injury did he managed to flourish. Cause effectively, MU is without a target man, and switches to this mobile attack of Rooney, Tevez and Ronaldo. And this is where Ronaldo soared, and hence "team"-player.
@ the last meetings between Barca and MU, Messi was clearly the greater threat. he was drifting from left, right and centre. I felt he just did not have the proper support. Rem when Barca won the European Champions, Messi was superb.
Despite his injury concerns, he is not built like Robben, Kewell or Giggs, in that they are slender and build for speed. Messi is stocky and reminds me of one Maradona. I think Ronaldo was less muscular when he first came, like a Nani, but has added a lot of bulk since then.
As for whether he can shine in MU, one thing is for sure, if SAF treats him the way he did with Giggs,Ronaldo, he will be more productive.
Well, I am not saying Ronaldo pales but just that Messi has more impact when fit.
Yeah, since you agree Messi is injury prone and Ronaldo is better in terms of goal scoring and aerial powers... This more or less sums it up already...
Impact players they all are... Messi, Ronny, Robben and even Giggs in his younger days. Yes, Ronaldo was bough as a winger and till the end of last season, he was still a winger most of their matches... United played with a target man last season and usually it was Rooney and when he was moved to the left, Tevez took over the striker's role... Ronaldo hardly plays in that position... His improvement as a player or goal scorer shouldn't be put down to rvn leaving or injury to Saha... Its more to do with his maturity over these last 2 yrs and his own determination to improve and succeed that got him where he is today.
The meeting between Utd and Barce was a strategic affair... Fergie set out shop to defend in the first leg therefore that could explain their lack of attacking opportunities for Ronaldo to shine but despite that, he still got them a penalty.
The 2nd leg was also almost the same story tho United started out attacking but they got an early goal by Scholes and decided to changed their strategy into one of defending which work out well for them... Anyway, i can't recall Messi was drifting in from the left, right and centre in that match... I only remember watching him on the right most of the time and Evra more or less had him covered and only on one occasion did he beat him but Evra got back again and it came to nothing...
Another thing i remember when Barce won the CL, Messi was only a bit part player then... Ronaldinho was superb, Ludovic Giuly, Rafael Márquez, Deco and Puyol all played well... Larsson was also a great impact player... Messi didn't even played in that final... His only goal contribution was a goal in Barce's 5-0 win over Panathinaikos in the group stages. So its rather a long shot to call him superb in their CL win.
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i do agree with you, but I still feel it is a matter of mindset.
I still think, without a target man, MUFC evolves into a 3man attack pong with Ronaldo, Tevez and Rooney, moving and shifting. And hence Ronaldo shines.
Yes, I don't deny his own hardwork put him where he is, but then, I firmly believe even with all the hardwork and dedication, there still have to be opportunity to shine.
Well, from my angle, Messi is different in what he brings to the table than Ronaldo.Hence my comment that if he is MUFC, and taken care by SAF, perhaps he can be more productive. Like Ronaldo, he was good in Sporting, but until he was given the "shine" by a master craftsman, he will just only be as good as he was.
Just thinking out loud, if Messi plays such a bit part, why is he the 2nd player after ronaldinho whereas Ronaldo was 3rd in the world player?