2016 A Level H2 Chemistry Paper 2, 3, 1 discussions
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Originally posted by Taengu:
Hi i made careless mistakes and got 26. Will there be any chance to get an A or even a B if my p2 was ok and my p3 was good?
Then you should be fine! After all 40/192 for p1 isn't a large percentage especially if you made up for it in p2 and p3, you can always calculate and estimate your own score.
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Guys I'm really trembling in fear... First i screw up paper2 (actually all my friends said it was hard) so i think i score around low B for that paper itself. Than for Paper 3, it was so easy! , but fml yeah i screw it up and my whole organic part was blank and i mixed up my R&C and haix. So my paper 3 was about low B too. yeah although i screw up, low B was quite possible. So based off p2 and p3 i got around 60-64%. Today's paper 2, i scored 27/40. First page all wrong idk what was i even thinking if not couldve 31 sia. but yeah its over. With those 3 papers i think i should be around 65 % AT MOST. Lets say spa affects my grades a little, will i drop to a D? I really do not want a H2 D... Haix. my uni course is AAB sia but i might end up with AAD if my chem really xiao suay.
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Originally posted by GoatFacedAssassin:
Guys I'm really trembling in fear... First i screw up paper2 (actually all my friends said it was hard) so i think i score around low B for that paper itself. Than for Paper 3, it was so easy! , but fml yeah i screw it up and my whole organic part was blank and i mixed up my R&C and haix. So my paper 3 was about low B too. yeah although i screw up, low B was quite possible. So based off p2 and p3 i got around 60-64%. Today's paper 2, i scored 27/40. First page all wrong idk what was i even thinking if not couldve 31 sia. but yeah its over. With those 3 papers i think i should be around 65 % AT MOST. Lets say spa affects my grades a little, will i drop to a D? I really do not want a H2 D... Haix. my uni course is AAB sia but i might end up with AAD if my chem really xiao suay.
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best. From your description, your most likely grade is a C, with a small chance of B or D.Accordingly, be psychologically prepared to choose backup Uni courses with lower UAS requirements, and/or retake A levels as a private candidate (though if you have NS obligations, you've to decide exactly when to retake your A levels).
http://www.nus.edu.sg/oam/gradeprofile/sprogramme-igp.html
http://www3.ntu.edu.sg/oad2/website_files/IGP/NTU_IGP.pdf
This may sound harsh, but it isn't meant to demoralize you (of course you would rather hear soothing assurances like "no worries, you'll probably still get your B grade" but that's mere consolation not honest clarification), but rather to remind you, that whatever happens, make the most of it. Use every opportunity in life to grow, including growing in fortitude and resilience. Doing badly for A levels isn't the end, there are always 2nd chances in life, but only if you're willing to give them to yourself.
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Hi ultima, so the grade boundary would probably be plus minus 75% right? Would a 76%-78% be safe?
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Hi if i scored 73.5% overall can i still get A or isit a B? As for math with 107 overall do you think i can get C or isit a D??
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kyungsoostan and Sir3,
A grade boundary for this year will most likely be approximately 75% (overall, combining all papers including SPA), depending on the entire cohort's performance.
However, note that your own (ie. all students') estimation of your marks may be inaccurate (eg. you don't actually know your SPA marks, you may have made careless mistakes you didn't realize, Cambridge's required answer may be different from your school's taught answer, etc).
Notwithstanding, assuming your estimation is accurate, then kyungsoostan's 77% is a safe A grade, and Sir3's 73.5% is a possible A grade. As long as you get > 70%, it's always *possible* to get an A grade (just that your chances increase dramatically at 75%), because the cohort's performance also has to be taken into account.
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i figure people always like to guess but there'll always be anomalies alot of things can go wrong and right lol
i would believe their grading is like a managed float system whereby the bellcurve exists between 2 stipulated limits (just like our exchange rate), it can fluctuate but not go too high or too low
though nobody knows the exact way they mark papers (considering they probably vary every year), so i guess just wait for February 27th
having said that i think next year's a level will be much more exciting and i believe there will be more people screaming and shouting for predictions!!!
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Hello! How much would we need to get to get B? Any clue?
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Originally posted by Northernblart:
Hello! How much would we need to get to get B? Any clue?
60+ (eg. 62), the exact B grade boundary depends on the bell-curve, and differs every year. Focus on planning for your Uni application, not just your 1st choice, but your backup choices as well. -
Originally posted by UltimaOnline:
60+ (eg. 62), the exact B grade boundary depends on the bell-curve, and differs every year. Focus on planning for your Uni application, not just your 1st choice, but your backup choices as well.ok thanks! Is a 65 safe for a B? And may i know how do u know of these grade boundaries? Is it pure estimation? Sorry im asking so many questions because im worried.
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Originally posted by Northernblart:
ok thanks! Is a 65 safe for a B? And may i know how do u know of these grade boundaries? Is it pure estimation? Sorry im asking so many questions because im worried.
65 is a safe B grade. However, note that your own (ie. all students') estimation of your marks may be inaccurate (eg. you don't actually know your SPA marks, you may have made careless mistakes you didn't realize, Cambridge's required answer may be different from your school's taught answer, etc).As long as you get > 60%, it's always *possible* to get an B grade (just that your chances increase dramatically closer to 65%), because the cohort's performance also has to be taken into account.
That grade boundaries for Singapore-Cambridge A levels are subject to the bell-curve is common knowledge. Just that many teachers and tutors tend to exaggerate the grade boundaries (eg. 80% for A grade).
It's useless worrying over results now, worrying can't change anything. Focus on planning for your Uni application, not just your 1st choice, but your backup choices as well.
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Originally posted by UltimaOnline:
65 is a safe B grade. However, note that your own (ie. all students') estimation of your marks may be inaccurate (eg. you don't actually know your SPA marks, you may have made careless mistakes you didn't realize, Cambridge's required answer may be different from your school's taught answer, etc).As long as you get > 60%, it's always *possible* to get an B grade (just that your chances increase dramatically closer to 65%), because the cohort's performance also has to be taken into account.
That grade boundaries for Singapore-Cambridge A levels are subject to the bell-curve is common knowledge. Just that many teachers and tutors tend to exaggerate the grade boundaries (eg. 80% for A grade).
It's useless worrying over results now, worrying can't change anything. Focus on planning for your Uni application, not just your 1st choice, but your backup choices as well.
Hi ultima! This are my scores that i believe i'll be getting (Plus minus a few marks here and there)
Paper 2 : 60/72 (After taking into account planning)Paper 3 : 56/80 (Didn't explicitly count the marks but i didn't feel quite comfortable about the paper as a whole because although i knew how to the answer the qns, i didn't know where the marking points were. Made quite a bit of allowance (ie lowered my predicted marks)
Paper 1 : 40/40
Would an A still be possible with a big hiccup from paper 3? (Considering that everyone was saying that paper 3 was easy which therefore could shift the A boundary to a higher mark.)
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Originally posted by ScrewedUpO's:
Hi ultima! This are my scores that i believe i'll be getting (Plus minus a few marks here and there)
Paper 2 : 60/72 (After taking into account planning)Paper 3 : 56/80 (Didn't explicitly count the marks but i didn't feel quite comfortable about the paper as a whole because although i knew how to the answer the qns, i didn't know where the marking points were. Made quite a bit of allowance (ie lowered my predicted marks)
Paper 1 : 40/40
Would an A still be possible with a big hiccup from paper 3? (Considering that everyone was saying that paper 3 was easy which therefore could shift the A boundary to a higher mark.)
lol assuming you score ok for spa, your overall score is easily around 80-85%, of course you can get A...
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Originally posted by ScrewedUpO's:
Hi ultima! This are my scores that i believe i'll be getting (Plus minus a few marks here and there)
Paper 2 : 60/72 (After taking into account planning)Paper 3 : 56/80 (Didn't explicitly count the marks but i didn't feel quite comfortable about the paper as a whole because although i knew how to the answer the qns, i didn't know where the marking points were. Made quite a bit of allowance (ie lowered my predicted marks)
Paper 1 : 40/40
Would an A still be possible with a big hiccup from paper 3? (Considering that everyone was saying that paper 3 was easy which therefore could shift the A boundary to a higher mark.)
Unless you're a self-deluded big-talker-only, or your teacher hates your guts and secretly failed your SPA, otherwise assuming your estimation is accurate within 5%, of course you'll get your A grade with your overall score of 80%.And calling your 70% score for your Paper 3 a "big hiccup"?
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More likely because in top schools students have the mentality that 70 is a fail grade.
It isnt teachers that drive the craze, but rather peers themselves.
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Originally posted by Thefire521:
More likely because in top schools students have the mentality that 70 is a fail grade.
It isnt teachers that drive the craze, but rather peers themselves.
Actually i'm not from a top jc. In fact, the basis for my concerns lies exactly in the fact that 70 is already considered a shaky grade even in neighbourhood jc. Imagine what top jc students (a majority of which has higher aptitude in chemistry than me) can do if above 70 is a common norm for neighbourhood jcs in the A levels.
@Ultima, thank you very much for your response. I really appreciate it. Undeniably, i would have appreciate it more if your response had been made with kinder words. Given the fierce competition in the Singapore education system, i believe that there is sufficient basis in enquiring on the prospective grades that could be attained with my score, since i believe strongly that there will be a bunch who will be attaining a similiar score.
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Originally posted by ScrewedUpO's:
Actually i'm not from a top jc. In fact, the basis for my concerns lies exactly in the fact that 70 is already considered a shaky grade even in neighbourhood jc. Imagine what top jc students (a majority of which has higher aptitude in chemistry than me) can do if above 70 is a common norm for neighbourhood jcs in the A levels.
@Ultima, thank you very much for your response. I really appreciate it. Undeniably, i would have appreciate it more if your response had been made with kinder words. Given the fierce competition in the Singapore education system, i believe that there is sufficient basis in enquiring on the prospective grades that could be attained with my score, since i believe strongly that there will be a bunch who will be attaining a similiar score.
70% overall score *isn't* a common norm (ie. majority) for neighbourhood jcs (top to mid-tier JCs, maybe; neighbourhood JCs imply bottom-tier, for which 70% overall and/or A grades, are the minority) in the A levels. Only the top JCs have A grades as the majority. Overall (entire cohort ; by definition, top tier JCs = 33%, mid-tier JCs = 33%, bottom-tier JCs = 33%), B grades are the majority.And I wasn't trying to be mean, but I did mention (many times in this thread already) that the *overall* (ie. regardless of how badly you do in any individual paper, let alone your 70% for your worst performing paper isn't bad at all) % for A grade boundary is 75%, and your own estimation is a 80-85%, so there was really no need for you to even ask, but your insecurity got the better of you.
I reiterate : 75% overall is sufficient to get A grade for H2 Chem (if you calculated you got 75% but it turns out you didn't get A grade, it's because your SPA must have pulled you down, or you didn't realize you made some careless mistakes in other questions, or trusted your school's answers too much, naively assuming Cambridge will definitely give it full marks, etc).
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Originally posted by UltimaOnline:
70% overall score *isn't* a common norm (ie. majority) for neighbourhood jcs (top to mid-tier JCs, maybe; neighbourhood JCs imply bottom-tier, for which 70% overall and/or A grades, are the minority) in the A levels. Only the top JCs have A grades as the majority. Overall (entire cohort ; by definition, top tier JCs = 33%, mid-tier JCs = 33%, bottom-tier JCs = 33%), B grades are the majority.And I wasn't trying to be mean, but I did mention (many times in this thread already) that the *overall* (ie. regardless of how badly you do in any individual paper, let alone your 70% for your worst performing paper isn't bad at all) % for A grade boundary is 75%, and your own estimation is a 80-85%, so there was really no need for you to even ask, but your insecurity got the better of you.
I reiterate : 75% overall is sufficient to get A grade for H2 Chem (if you calculated you got 75% but it turns out you didn't get A grade, it's because your SPA must have pulled you down, or you didn't realize you made some careless mistakes in other questions, or trusted your school's answers too much, naively assuming Cambridge will definitely give it full marks, etc).
Thank you for the reply , I really appreciate it :)
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Originally posted by ScrewedUpO's:
Thank you for the reply , I really appreciate it :)
No prob :) -
Congratulations to those who ended A levels with physics! Seems like it was a nice paper too!
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Off topic for Exam Boards for CIE/SEAB-Cambridge.
Malaysian STPM today last paper for Semester 2 Repeat Examination.
How you draw Hess Cycle for 18(b)?
Also Combustion of Water? O_O? H2O(l) -> H2O (g)?Also what type of Carbohydrates in the name of glucose, is C6H11O6
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Originally posted by iSean:
Off topic for Exam Boards for CIE/SEAB-Cambridge.
Malaysian STPM today last paper for Semester 2 Repeat Examination.
How you draw Hess Cycle for 18(b)?
Also Combustion of Water? O_O? H2O(l) -> H2O (g)?Also what type of Carbohydrates in the name of glucose, is C6H11O6
STPM error #1 : Enthalpy of *formation* of water lah. Then enthalpy cycle straightforward to construct and to apply Hess' Law.STPM error #2 : wrong molecular formula of glucose lah.
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Originally posted by UltimaOnline:
STPM error #1 : Enthalpy of *formation* of water lah. Then enthalpy cycle straightforward to construct and to apply Hess' Law.STPM error #2 : wrong molecular formula of glucose lah.
Will always kesian these people who took STPM. :S
Sad case lah. :(