DIY Computer Parts. Where to get
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You could go extreme AMD.
Use the Asus Crosshair III Formula or wait till the Crosshair IV Formula and Crosshair IV Extreme are released soon.
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Originally posted by GGINS:
hmmm. Does asus make these boards? Can you recommend a model not more than 240 that supports crossfire?
Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H, ~$225 USB3.0 and SATA 6Bits as well as CFX compatible.
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ha that's a good motherboard i think. Is the onboard integrated radeon hd 4290 graphics card good? Or around the standards of a 9600 gt?
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Originally posted by GGINS:
ha that’s a good motherboard i think. Is the onboard integrated radeon hd 4290 graphics card good? Or around the standards of a 9600 gt?
Hell no. IGPs will NEVER be as good as dedicated graphics of a similar era. For HD video, good enough. For playing games, no.
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okay. 40 cores is that good or bad? Anyway can it play bf2 at medium settings? And how can i switch between it and a discrete graphics card?
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Originally posted by GGINS:
okay. 40 cores is that good or bad? Anyway can it play bf2 at medium settings? And how can i switch between it and a discrete graphics card?
BF2 at medium? No. Low, at 1024x768, yes. Trust me,it's not fun to play games on an IGP. I've tried that before with my HD4200.
40 cores on ATi: Sucks. 40 cores on NVidia: Decent.
Basic guideline: Divide ATi's cores or stream processors by 5 to get a rough equivalent to NVidia's cores. 40 ATi cores is about 8 NVidia cores. Which is why you see the HD5870 having 1600 cores and GTX480 having 480, yet the GTX480 still beats the HD5870.
Note: You can only switch between the IGP and the dedicated card if you have a CERTIFIED GPU AND MOTHERBOARD. ATi's PowerXpress only works on LAPTOPS, so no go for desktops. Your discrete graphics card will ALWAYS be active.
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so i'll have to remove the integrated graphics card? Btw is 620w good enough for gtx 480?
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620? Forget about it.
GTX480? Forget about it too.
Want GTX480, at least have a 700W.
Then again, for all that price and heat and extra power consumption, a GTX480 only beats a HD5870 by a small margin.
Take Crysis for example, the world's most fanboy-plagued game.
A GTX480 beats a HD5870 by a measly 1.34FPS.
Definitely not a crushing defeat, yo.
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Originally posted by GGINS:
so i’ll have to remove the integrated graphics card? Btw is 620w good enough for gtx 480?
It's integrated. I'd like to see you TRY to remove it.
Forget about the GTX480. Expensive, loud and hot. Sure, it's the fastest single GPU card on the planet, but it's not worth the cash. Get a HD5850 instead. Yes, a good 620W can handle the GTX480 just fine. But, it's pointless to get a GTX480 right now. So the point is moot.
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oh. How about a hd 5970 then? Does it own the gtx? Btw is coolermaster GX 650W power supply reliable and okay for a hd 5850 or 5970?
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btw if i go intel and grab an i5-750 with a lga 1156 motherboard, does it come with the intel HD graphics? Or do i have to get other p55(or was it x55?) mobos? I think hd graphics is better than hd 4290 right?
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btw if i go intel and grab an i5-750 with a lga 1156 motherboard, does it come with the intel HD graphics? Or do i have to get other p55(or was it x55?) mobos? I think hd graphics is better than hd 4290 right?
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Originally posted by GGINS:
oh. How about a hd 5970 then? Does it own the gtx? Btw is coolermaster GX 650W power supply reliable and okay for a hd 5850 or 5970?
GX650 will be enough for the HD5970.
No, the 750 will NOT come with Intel HD Graphics. Intel HD graphics may only be used on H55 and H57 boards, and come with the Intel i3 and Intel i5 600 series. The 700 series DO NOT have Intel HD Graphics.
Intel HD Graphics<HD3200<HD4200<HD4290. It offers similar performance, but drivers are still not up to par. Intel's drivers use the CPU to boost 3D rendering in supported games, which leads to a similar performance compared to the AMD/NVidia counterparts. However, in unsupported games, the Intel graphics lags far behind.
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heys guys may i know what is an amd dragon system? Btw should i buy cpus and motherboards in bundles or alone? Are bundles cheaper?
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Originally posted by GGINS:
heys guys may i know what is an amd dragon system? Btw should i buy cpus and motherboards in bundles or alone? Are bundles cheaper?
Yes, bundles are cheaper.
The AMD Dragon platform consists of a Phenom II CPU, a 790G/F chipset and HD4800 series graphics cards. The new platform fore 2010 is Leo (:D), which is a Phenom II CPU, 890G/F chipset and HD5800 series graphics.
Can't wait to see the mascot for Leo. The Dragon emblem was teh awesum.
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HD5970 pretty much pwns the GTX by a huge margin.
Synthetic benchmarks don't mean shit when it comes to comparing GPU scores.
What matters more is real world performance in games, efficiency, power consumption, heat, noise, etc.
A HD5850 either performs better or on par with a GTX470.
A HD5870 does not perform as well as a GTX480 but a slight OC to the HD5870 will see it matching GTX480 performance or exceeding.
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Originally posted by SBS7484P:
HD5970 pretty much pwns the GTX by a huge margin.
Synthetic benchmarks don't mean shit when it comes to comparing GPU scores.
What matters more is real world performance in games, efficiency, power consumption, heat, noise, etc.
A HD5850 either performs better or on par with a GTX470.
A HD5870 does not perform as well as a GTX480 but a slight OC to the HD5870 will see it matching GTX480 performance or exceeding.
The HD5870 beats the GTX480 in average frame rates, but the GTX 480 has MUCH better minimum frame rates (Like, 20 more minimum FPS for a given game), which is more noticeable in heavily tessellated games
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hmmm so is the leo system out already? Compared to other cpus and motherboards does dragon, leo systems work better?
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btw guys is the coolermaster storm scout a semi full tower or a mid tower? Can a 5970 fit inside? Does it come with some sort of wire management too?
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Originally posted by GGINS:
hmmm so is the leo system out already? Compared to other cpus and motherboards does dragon, leo systems work better?
The parts for the platform have already been released, so yeah, it has.
Storm Scout is a mid-tower casing. It may not fit, but most likely will. Wire management holes are there to help in managing the mess.
For questions on what casing will fit, you're better off asking at overclock.net or xtremesystems.org because it's very likely that there are users there who have the casings you are interested in.
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OCN will tell you.
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okay guys can yo give a evaluation of th system below and wad parts should be changed? Thks Amd Phenom ii x6 1055 with asus 890x mobo bundle 4gb ddr3 team elite 500 gb western digital Dvd drive. Radeon hd 5770 Coolermaster 650 GX cooler master storm scout Btw guys do you know how much a light stick(those decorative lighting) costs and where got sell? Thks:):)
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btw radeon hd 5770 crossfire vs single gtx 260 core 216 which one performance is better? If i crossfire 5770 how's the performance gonna be compared to a 5850?
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Originally posted by GGINS:
okay guys can yo give a evaluation of th system below and wad parts should be changed? Thks
Amd Phenom ii x6 1055 with asus 890x mobo bundle
4gb ddr3 team elite
500 gb western digital
Dvd drive.
Radeon hd 5770
Coolermaster 650 GX
cooler master storm scoutBtw guys do you know how much a light stick(those decorative lighting) costs and where got sell? Thks
CCFL (Cold Cathode Florescent Lights) can be bought for about $20-$30 per set depending on where you buy them. Get them from UVnium on the 3rd floor of SLS. It's a backlane shop, most people don't know it exists :P
CFX 5770 is of course going to be better than single GTX260. The GTX260 is only slightly better than the HD5770. VS 5850, 5850 will lose slightly, but 5850 consumes less power and looks more "stylo" than the CFX 5770. Plus, 5850 costs less and takes up only 1 slot.
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The GT480 OC owns 5870 OC lo, though power comsumption and heat level still lose.
The heat is probably due to its 3 billion transistors.
Anyway, graphics card arent future proof, so just buy one that fit your needs.