Confirmation of upgrades before buying.
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Hi, i would like to confirm some parts for upgrades.
There's a previous thread i made and i cant really get the straight answers. Just need to confirm and make adjustments. [LINK] http://sgforums.com/forums/2250/topics/376660
My current specs:
Processor: Intel pentium DUAL CPU E2180 @ 2.00 gHz
RAM: 2GB RAM
Graphics card: GEforce 7100/nforce 630 @512mb
Mobo: Palit N73PV (confirmed)
I plan on getting...
XFX GeForce 9800 GT 512MB = $169
INTEL Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.0 GhZ = $236
extra RAM = $31
500w upgrade = $50
My mobo is N73PV. plan to switch to...
MSI (MicroStar) G31M (Intel G31) DDR2 667/800 - mATX = $99
I have to thank MPT and Raraken for the recommendations and helping too.
Total with mobo: $585
Total w/o mobo: $486
my budget is within, below $600. please comment on necessary adjustments. Thanks!
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go for i5 or i7 if ur budget permits... this is to future-proof ur processor..
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Originally posted by Sgdevilzz:
Hi, i would like to confirm some parts for upgrades.
There's a previous thread i made and i cant really get the straight answers. Just need to confirm and make adjustments. [LINK] http://sgforums.com/forums/2250/topics/376660
My current specs:
Processor: Intel pentium DUAL CPU E2180 @ 2.00 gHz
RAM: 2GB RAM
Graphics card: GEforce 7100/nforce 630 @512mb
Mobo: Palit N73PV (confirmed)
I plan on getting...
XFX GeForce 9800 GT 512MB = $169
INTEL Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.0 GhZ = $236
extra RAM = $31
500w upgrade = $50
My mobo is N73PV. plan to switch to...
MSI (MicroStar) G31M (Intel G31) DDR2 667/800 - mATX = $99
I have to thank MPT and Raraken for the recommendations and helping too.
Total with mobo: $585
Total w/o mobo: $486
my budget is within, below $600. please comment on necessary adjustments. Thanks!
maybe instead of a GT9800, why not a GTS250 which might perform better? $50 more for faster core clock and DDR3 graphic card memory, GT9800 is a DDR2. and how about changing to a Q8400 processor? bundled with the mobo and that'll cost about $330.
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Originally posted by jonchao72:
go for i5 or i7 if ur budget permits... this is to future-proof ur processor..
that cost my whole budget! more than $500plus u noe. lols.
Originally posted by nenepokey:maybe instead of a GT9800, why not a GTS250 which might perform better? $50 more for faster core clock and DDR3 graphic card memory, GT9800 is a DDR2. and how about changing to a Q8400 processor? bundled with the mobo and that'll cost about $330.
core 2 duo E8400 @ 3GhZ - 6MB L2 - 1333FSB - 2 cores - $236
core 2 quad Q8400 @ 2.66GhZ - 4MB L2 - 1333FSB - 4 cores - $241
tell me the difference :)
GTS250 or GTX250? its expensive u noe.
budget $600 i say liao. thanks.
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I rather you save money for 2 GTS 250 than SLI, Their performance are alright,
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If your current motherboard can support the new processor, you can use it back, i think the difference between your current motherboard and the one you are planning to get is the onboard graphics(the onboard graphics on your old board is better), so think it is not really worth changing the motherboard
Anyway i dont remember seeing G31 around, they are replaced by G41(if im not wrong)
GTS250 has almost the same performance as the 9800gtx(or the gtx+, cant remember)
So i think new ram and new gpu will be good, if you are not sure u can ask the shop if they are willing to let u test if your old mobo will take the new cpu or not, if yes, you can buy the cpu alone, if not u can buy it with the mobo at the bundled price
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Originally posted by MyPillowTalks:
If your current motherboard can support the new processor, you can use it back, i think the difference between your current motherboard and the one you are planning to get is the onboard graphics(the onboard graphics on your old board is better), so think it is not really worth changing the motherboard
Anyway i dont remember seeing G31 around, they are replaced by G41(if im not wrong)
GTS250 has almost the same performance as the 9800gtx(or the gtx+, cant remember)
So i think new ram and new gpu will be good, if you are not sure u can ask the shop if they are willing to let u test if your old mobo will take the new cpu or not, if yes, you can buy the cpu alone, if not u can buy it with the mobo at the bundled price
My motherboard can support core 2 Duo and 1333FSB, PSI slot express x16. so i guess its the same. lol.
I cant find prices for GTS250. how much does it cost? 9800GT is around $169.
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What to do?
Q8400. 2 more cores. You will notice huge boosts in multitasking things.
HD4850. More powerful than 9800GT, and about the same as the GTS250.
Mobo-wise, the Gigabyte G31M-ES2L is a good overclocker, and costs around the same, IIRC.
500W PSU should go for AcBel or Vantec. If not overclocking, stick to the Palit. It might not have dual-channel memory, but it's good enough for gaming with a fast card and CPU.
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Originally posted by Raraken:
What to do?
Q8400. 2 more cores. You will notice huge boosts in multitasking things.
HD4850. More powerful than 9800GT, and about the same as the GTS250.
Mobo-wise, the Gigabyte G31M-ES2L is a good overclocker, and costs around the same, IIRC.
500W PSU should go for AcBel or Vantec. If not overclocking, stick to the Palit. It might not have dual-channel memory, but it's good enough for gaming with a fast card and CPU.
I found various types of 4850 series.
GIGABYTE HD4850 512MB DDR3 (HDMI) - $179
PALIT Radeon HD 4850 512MB DDR3 Sonic - $169
PowerColor HD4850 512MB DDR3 (HDMI) - $149
XFX Radeon HD 4850 512MB DDR3 - $179
Whats the difference sia?
I'm fine with core 2 duo. i dont multitask much. Just need for high-end games. thats why i need up to 3.0GhZ. Motherboard dont need change. hmm... considering 9800GT or 4850HD.
reason i like NVIDIA is because they have this feature called "PhyX" and it really convinces me. lol...
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Originally posted by Sgdevilzz:
I found various types of 4850 series.
GIGABYTE HD4850 512MB DDR3 (HDMI) - $179
PALIT Radeon HD 4850 512MB DDR3 Sonic - $169
PowerColor HD4850 512MB DDR3 (HDMI) - $149
XFX Radeon HD 4850 512MB DDR3 - $179
Whats the difference sia?
I'm fine with core 2 duo. i dont multitask much. Just need for high-end games. thats why i need up to 3.0GhZ. Motherboard dont need change. hmm... considering 9800GT or 4850HD.
reason i like NVIDIA is because they have this feature called "PhyX" and it really convinces me. lol...
well all cards are almost the same except for the manufacturer
ive heard alot of good things about xfx because of their warranty and design so i would get xfx over other cards if i were you
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Originally posted by Sgdevilzz:
I found various types of 4850 series.
GIGABYTE HD4850 512MB DDR3 (HDMI) - $179
PALIT Radeon HD 4850 512MB DDR3 Sonic - $169
PowerColor HD4850 512MB DDR3 (HDMI) - $149
XFX Radeon HD 4850 512MB DDR3 - $179
Whats the difference sia?
I'm fine with core 2 duo. i dont multitask much. Just need for high-end games. thats why i need up to 3.0GhZ. Motherboard dont need change. hmm... considering 9800GT or 4850HD.
reason i like NVIDIA is because they have this feature called "PhyX" and it really convinces me. lol...
Palit's Sonic edition is good, comes pre-overclocked and with a non-reference cooler. However, PowerColor's offering is excellent, better still if it's the PCS edition (Like mine) I used to like NVidia, until AMD gave me a reason to switch (Just like what they did about the CPU :P). PhysX is purely cosmetic, and serves to 'enhance' gaming experience. The only way my gaming experience would be enhanced is by having the ability to get 16x AA, 16x AF and everything maxed out on my monitor and still have playable framerates.
Like AA, PhysX pretty much decreases the performance of the card, since it has to dedicate resources to physics calculation. You can disable it, but still, the HD4850 (especially that Powercolor going for $150) is going to offer better performance in terms of processing power and quality.
Still, I'm not going to stop you from getting the GTS250, but seriously, $150 for the HD4850? Bargain! I might just grab another one myself and CrossFire them. I'd get HD5850-like performance at $100 cheaper! Then get a 3rd one when someone sells it for cheap and Tri-Crossfire! I'd need a 790GX mobo, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let that stop me!
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Originally posted by Raraken:
Palit's Sonic edition is good, comes pre-overclocked and with a non-reference cooler. However, PowerColor's offering is excellent, better still if it's the PCS edition (Like mine) I used to like NVidia, until AMD gave me a reason to switch (Just like what they did about the CPU :P). PhysX is purely cosmetic, and serves to 'enhance' gaming experience. The only way my gaming experience would be enhanced is by having the ability to get 16x AA, 16x AF and everything maxed out on my monitor and still have playable framerates.
Like AA, PhysX pretty much decreases the performance of the card, since it has to dedicate resources to physics calculation. You can disable it, but still, the HD4850 (especially that Powercolor going for $150) is going to offer better performance in terms of processing power and quality.
Still, I'm not going to stop you from getting the GTS250, but seriously, $150 for the HD4850? Bargain! I might just grab another one myself and CrossFire them. I'd get HD5850-like performance at $100 cheaper! Then get a 3rd one when someone sells it for cheap and Tri-Crossfire! I'd need a 790GX mobo, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let that stop me!
Hmm... Alright i'll get the HD 4850 instead :) Just that i dont know if the shop sells powercolor version.
i currently have 2GB RAM. should i plus another? maybe i should.
So it will be,
Core 2 Duo E8400 @ $236
ATi RadeoN HD4850 @ $149
ANTEC 500w PSU abit expensive. @ $132 There's another one [Topower 500W ATX Power Supply] @ $60.
I get these prices at HWZ singapore. The shop im going to upgrade is Unisquare. The owner is my father's friend. So i guess he'll give me a discount for the stuff :)
TOTAL: $495 (totaling the $60 PSU and $50 for misc stuff.)
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Originally posted by Sgdevilzz:
Hmm... Alright i'll get the HD 4850 instead :) Just that i dont know if the shop sells powercolor version.
i currently have 2GB RAM. should i plus another? maybe i should.
So it will be,
Core 2 Duo E8400 @ $236
ATi RadeoN HD4850 @ $149
ANTEC 500w PSU abit expensive. @ $132 There's another one [Topower 500W ATX Power Supply] @ $60.
I get these prices at HWZ singapore. The shop im going to upgrade is Unisquare. The owner is my father's friend. So i guess he'll give me a discount for the stuff :)
TOTAL: $495 (totaling the $60 PSU and $50 for misc stuff.)
Quick check on Topower's website (If your PSU is the basic +12V series) seems that you'll require a power convertor, since none of them have dedicated 6-pin plugs. Topower's a good brand for their high-end, but not too sure on the low-end.
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Originally posted by Raraken:
Quick check on Topower's website (If your PSU is the basic +12V series) seems that you'll require a power convertor, since none of them have dedicated 6-pin plugs. Topower's a good brand for their high-end, but not too sure on the low-end.
Is there any software that can check your power supply? I opened my case AGAIN. no power supply sticker or anything. I dont get thepower converter and the 6-pin thing. i can just ask the technician to do it for me. Or i have to do it myself?
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Originally posted by Sgdevilzz:
Is there any software that can check your power supply? I opened my case AGAIN. no power supply sticker or anything. I dont get thepower converter and the 6-pin thing. i can just ask the technician to do it for me. Or i have to do it myself?
S/W that checks your power supply? The PSU only provides the power, and sends no information to the computer.
There should be stickers on the PSU, on any side. Not on the side, try the top. Not on top, the bottom. You might need to remove the PSU from the casing for this.
Power convertor comes with the card, but I wouldn't recommend using it. If you don't have a 6-pin PCI-E means your PSU wasn't meant for video cards that draw a lot of current.
Just top up like $10 and get a Vantec. Some Vantec's are made by Topower, AcBel, Andyson etc. You can power a HD4870 off the 500W ION2+.
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My power connector is
- 1 x 24-pin ATX power connector
- 1 x 4-pin ATX power connector
got it from motherboard website.
not guaranteed the shop has Vantec ION2 500w. i'll try asking when i have time.
thanks dude for your time :)