go surf hardwarezone or vrzone for such deals. they are aplenty.
get a fujitsu.
Don't get a HP, it has serious heat problems.
Sony vaio series (depends on your budget) i have seen vaios at 1.6k ..
Sony VAIO laptops are known for their portability, style and warranty. Not power. You want power, go for Acer. Cheap laptops, but some of the fastest on the market. HP/Compaq laptops overheat easily, though their warranty quite good. Fujitsu and IBM/Lenovo are reliable, long-lasting but not very powerful. Your call.
Dell, can lah, but best to buy their higher end line, like the XPS and Studio, rather than the lower end Inspiron line.
Also, look out for laptops using the 8400 and 8600 series GPU. They fail VERY easily.
Originally posted by kenn3th:get a fujitsu.
Don't get a HP, it has serious heat problems.
Sony vaio series (depends on your budget) i have seen vaios at 1.6k ..
erm...it's that the reason u think my motherboard died out?
Originally posted by Raraken:Sony VAIO laptops are known for their portability, style and warranty. Not power. You want power, go for Acer. Cheap laptops, but some of the fastest on the market. HP/Compaq laptops overheat easily, though their warranty quite good. Fujitsu and IBM/Lenovo are reliable, long-lasting but not very powerful. Your call.
Dell, can lah, but best to buy their higher end line, like the XPS and Studio, rather than the lower end Inspiron line.
Also, look out for laptops using the 8400 and 8600 series GPU. They fail VERY easily.
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yeah...that's y their warranty good to make up for their heat problems i guess...learnt new thing today....
Originally posted by kengkia:erm...it's that the reason u think my motherboard died out?
There can be lots of possibilities,
- processors - if it's a p4 mobile processor, it will generate a significant amount of heat
- Periods of switching on your computer. (long periods v short periods)
- Dust clogging up your laptop fan
- Conditions that you use you laptop (in an aircon room v normal room temp)
- Programmes you use. (more intense appications will cause your processor / gpu/ both to work harder)
- old age.
Originally posted by Raraken:Sony VAIO laptops are known for their portability, style and warranty. Not power. You want power, go for Acer. Cheap laptops, but some of the fastest on the market. HP/Compaq laptops overheat easily, though their warranty quite good. Fujitsu and IBM/Lenovo are reliable, long-lasting but not very powerful. Your call.
Dell, can lah, but best to buy their higher end line, like the XPS and Studio, rather than the lower end Inspiron line.
Also, look out for laptops using the 8400 and 8600 series GPU. They fail VERY easily.
Sony is known for it's quality, power depends on the series. Though i can assure you. most vaios now come with pretty good specifications. it is the first manufactuer to come up with switchable graphics. and blue ray
Acer laptops have Quality control issues.
I recently attended to 1 Gemstone series. with a faulty entertainment touch pad.
Steps i did:
-Drivers update ( useless)
-Took out the battery and pressed the power button (to drain out remainding power),
-this is a step few people will do, but many professionals will.
In summary: faulty part.
this is not an isolated case. i have seen power adaptors burning out after 6 months.
People can argue how good they are, and that they use parts made by nvdia and other companies (intel, msi ect). The fact of the matter is, their inhouse manufacturing, which creates the casing, the touch pads, ect, have QC issues. - Balding keyboards, Hard keyboards, casings that are easily chipped, faulty power adaptors....
HP/Compaq warranty is just normal. Due to the location of the service centre, they just offer this service to send your laptop to you after servicing.
You will be shocked at how long it will take for you to get back your laptop. 3 - 5 days? nah, it will be 1 - 2 weeks. Unless you make a hooha. You will have to call and rush them. I had a failed hdd. It took more than the specified 3-5 days. I called them up. and they said that they have not accessed the laptop. I then called them 2 days later, they have accessed but they dont have the part. When i said i need it in a rush, out of the blue, in a day, the part came and they said my laptop was ready for collection.
I sent my pavilion laptop only to get it back scratched at the casing and with lots of finger prints smudged at the screen. and they dare tick machine is cleaned. The pavilion laptop i sent in was checked and there were no scratches. The cso, did not tick the scratches column.
oh and i sent 2 HP laptops. One for faulty hdd and one for faulty keyboard.
IBM/Lenovo is not the company it was. Don't ever go for a Lenovo series. The thinkpad series is still alright, but if you go google it up, it has flex on it's plastics (when you depress some force, the plastics on the laptop wrist area will sink down) showing the quality of the plastics used. Thinkpad has good specifications. Switchable graphics (dedicated and integrated graphics) and on top of that spill proof keyboards (though u would not want to try spilling things). Lenovo/IBM laptops have problems with the 5300A/G/draft N wireless card. - a search on plenty of online forums and search engines will show to u the extend. - it's most probably driver issues, but somehow, even after updating, problems still persist.
I wont comment about fujitsu. it's about portability and it has great battery life. It is still the only one which makes it's lifebook series in Japan. Note, lifebook and not other series. like the L series. which is made in china.
Long and informative ^^
Originally posted by kenn3th:There can be lots of possibilities,
- processors - if it's a p4 mobile processor, it will generate a significant amount of heat
nope..nv use p4
- Periods of switching on your computer. (long periods v short periods)
weekdays usually few hours, weekends esp. sunday can up to whole day
- Dust clogging up your laptop fan
i may not have clean that part but the fan still going well till last moments...
- Conditions that you use you laptop (in an aircon room v normal room temp)
most of the time used in air-con room(i on air-con most of the time)
- Programmes you use. (more intense appications will cause your processor / gpu/ both to work harder)
is higher resource requirement games counted? eg. command and conquer3
- old age.
it's plentium M what do u expect? the HP lappie was a second hand bought.
Originally posted by kengkia:....motherboard is dead...since last friday. Initially i dunno what the problem is except for
when i tried to on my laptop it wun respond(dunno it's unable to boot or smth like that).
and i went down to a shop in sim lim square who quote me 200 for repair of motherboard
or 350 for replacement, by then i was told that my motherboard is dead. i choose the
former and i waited for one week till today i went down only to be told that motherboard
can't be repaired nor they have the exact motherboard model. then i went to another shop
to repair , i was given the same quote and also unfortunately at the end of the day they
said of the same thing. the second shop i went to say that the motherboard port or wiring
spoilt. so what is the next step i should do next?
What do you normally use it for?
You might want to try a Dell (cheap&good) since notebook usually only have 2-3yrs lifespan.
Originally posted by kenn3th:Sony is known for it's quality, power depends on the series. Though i can assure you. most vaios now come with pretty good specifications. it is the first manufactuer to come up with switchable graphics. and blue ray
Acer laptops have Quality control issues.
I recently attended to 1 Gemstone series. with a faulty entertainment touch pad.
Steps i did:
-Drivers update ( useless)
-Took out the battery and pressed the power button (to drain out remainding power),-this is a step few people will do, but many professionals will.
In summary: faulty part.
this is not an isolated case. i have seen power adaptors burning out after 6 months.
People can argue how good they are, and that they use parts made by nvdia and other companies (intel, msi ect). The fact of the matter is, their inhouse manufacturing, which creates the casing, the touch pads, ect, have QC issues. - Balding keyboards, Hard keyboards, casings that are easily chipped, faulty power adaptors....
HP/Compaq warranty is just normal. Due to the location of the service centre, they just offer this service to send your laptop to you after servicing.
You will be shocked at how long it will take for you to get back your laptop. 3 - 5 days? nah, it will be 1 - 2 weeks. Unless you make a hooha. You will have to call and rush them. I had a failed hdd. It took more than the specified 3-5 days. I called them up. and they said that they have not accessed the laptop. I then called them 2 days later, they have accessed but they dont have the part. When i said i need it in a rush, out of the blue, in a day, the part came and they said my laptop was ready for collection.
I sent my pavilion laptop only to get it back scratched at the casing and with lots of finger prints smudged at the screen. and they dare tick machine is cleaned. The pavilion laptop i sent in was checked and there were no scratches. The cso, did not tick the scratches column.
oh and i sent 2 HP laptops. One for faulty hdd and one for faulty keyboard.
IBM/Lenovo is not the company it was. Don't ever go for a Lenovo series. The thinkpad series is still alright, but if you go google it up, it has flex on it's plastics (when you depress some force, the plastics on the laptop wrist area will sink down) showing the quality of the plastics used. Thinkpad has good specifications. Switchable graphics (dedicated and integrated graphics) and on top of that spill proof keyboards (though u would not want to try spilling things). Lenovo/IBM laptops have problems with the 5300A/G/draft N wireless card. - a search on plenty of online forums and search engines will show to u the extend. - it's most probably driver issues, but somehow, even after updating, problems still persist.
I wont comment about fujitsu. it's about portability and it has great battery life. It is still the only one which makes it's lifebook series in Japan. Note, lifebook and not other series. like the L series. which is made in china.
I am familiar with Acer's reputation for terrible quality. I'm using a Gemstone, and like the problem above, my volume touchpad isn't as sensitive as it should be, the fingerprint reader sucks (My friend's sister has my exact same model, he managed to log in with HIS finger) and the fingerprint reader agin disconnects. The HD webcam lags, like hello. So, it actually depends on what you use the laptop for.
Acer: Powerful/Cheap laptops, but not very good lasting
HP/Compaq: Good quality, but laptop cooler required or *ahem*, I have experienced problems with their DV series, the metallic finish stains quite easily, actually. Quite fast.
Lenovo: MIC. No need say
IBM (Business Division, still under IBM): Very good, reliable, not too powerful, but enough for basic tasks, portable
Fujitsu: Portable, good service (My friend repeatedly bricked his laptop, they fixed it), but only the Lifebook series. More towards basic tasks (I don't see the point of putting a 2.4GHz proc with X3100 GPU)
Toshiba: Cheap, but gets quite warm. Acceptable performance. Very good build quality on their Qosmio series.
Dell: I qouldn't suggest Dell's Inspiron and XPS line, though XPS warranties are some of the best I've seen. Vostro and Latitude lines are business, though from what I see on the Latitude, you might as well get an Acer.
ASUS: King of the kings, very good build quality, very innovative features (N10Jc anyone?), high performance. Expensive, but warranties are some of the most covered. Accidental, travel, they have a warranty for everything, I think.
Sony: Expensive, price-to-performance ratio may not be par with other makes, but high end models are very powerful, stylish, thin, most boast dual graphics. Warning: Gets hot!
That's from my experiences with these brands, Axioo, never seen anyone with it. MSi, BenQ, never used one, except for the MSI Wind netbook.
I think we should make another thread for laptop recommendations....
oh,speaking about acer's webcam, another one was blur..
Originally posted by parn:
What do you normally use it for?You might want to try a Dell (cheap&good) since notebook usually only have 2-3yrs lifespan.
mostly surfing and sometime play pc games.. reliability(lasting) is my priority...anyway..i got myself a lappie to tong temporaily already liao thank you guys for ya input...i will 'archive' this for my future purchases...