set up a website
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Hello there..
just want to ask for some inputs, i'm interested to learn to create a website - the thing is that my knowledge on programming is practically zero. I want to know if there are any book or sources that is helpful for pp like me? & which is a preferable program tool to use, i only ever tried .html but heard of Java or asp .net is the most used nowadays...
so yah, anyone can help me out?
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hm.... wat is the website used for though?
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forgot to mention my objective, i just want to do it as a hobby... creating something would be fun i thought.
the kind of website that i wanted to try on is those for business purposes, selling stuff online -
Alot of free WYSIWYG web creator out there. Like Nvu, just do a google search. Frontpage also has pre-set templates.
If you're using a mac, iWeb is good!
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Learn PHP and HTML first, followed by CSS and Javascript to spice up the visual appearance and interactivity of your web pages. Borrow books from a regional library near you. I recommend those Visual Quickstarts (with a rabbit logo) and *something* in 7 Days or *something* in 24 Hours titles. Avoid the For Dummies series though. Publisher-wise go with O'reilly and Sams.
For a starter, get Dreamweaver for all your PHP and HTML editing. They have a 30-day trial available downloadable from Adobe's site, and there is always an unofficial trial version out there as long as you spend time to search for it.
Learn the examples in the books mentioned above by coding them by hand. You'll learn them much faster this way. If you don't wish to upload and test your PHP scripts on a remote server, you can always download Wamp (if you're on Windows) and run the server software directly on your computer instead.
A good reference site for PHP would be the official PHP.net site itself. For HTML stuff, I would usually just do a Google search and find what I need.
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the best source of information I think, would be the w3c schools series ...
whatever you have to learn, web hosting, html, php, asp, asp.NET, sql, networking, TCP/IP .... everything is there ...
plus is from the world wide web consortium itself ... their stuff's all very elementary and geared towards the complete novice ...
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w3c is very simple... you should start there..
borrowing books like php and html.. i agree that dreamweaver is easy to use... there is a dummy guide.. really for beginners... dont worrry
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Originally posted by Fatum:
the best source of information I think, would be the w3c schools series ...
whatever you have to learn, web hosting, html, php, asp, asp.NET, sql, networking, TCP/IP .... everything is there ...
plus is from the world wide web consortium itself ... their stuff's all very elementary and geared towards the complete novice ...
Yup, the W3Schools web site is another great site you can refer to while learning. Just a note that it's not endorsed or created by W3C themselves, but some Norwegian company, albeit the similarity in the names.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W3schools
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I just tried Dreamweaver for their CSS template... without any knowledge of css at all... Damn simple to use... You should try it...
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Start with HTML first and make sure you are coding properly. HTML codes tend to be sub standard.
I've seen a lot of HTML coders code this way - < p >This is a test paragraph. (remove the spaces)
Most browsers will auto correct the wrong codes. With the web moving towards XHTML, this is not possible. Try something like this, you will see < p >This is a test paragraph. - in your webpage.
Or perhaps start with XHTML to train you in writing good codes.
A good resource which I like - http://www.html.net/
Books wise, I like the Beginning <topic> series by Wrox. It's a red book with human faces as cover page. Or The Complete Reference of <topic>. It's a white colour book. They are pretty thick, and usually cover more than 1 topic.
Do not get cookbooks published by Oreilly. They are very summarized and served as a memory jotter for experienced users.
All other languages, refer to documentation. That's the best help. If you need a web server for free, XAMPP is another to consider.
For Microsoft coding, IIS can only be installed on XP Professional machines.
A WYSIWYG editor that I prefer is Amaya. It's produced by W3C (World Wide Web Consortium). All codes can be validated within the editor itself before you upload it to the web. Not as much features as Dreamweaver, but good enough as an alternative to Dreamweaver.
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wow, REALLY THANKS for all your valuable replies!! will digest them bit by bit & do accordingly...
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I would advise against the XAMPP thingy ... I went through a lot of trouble trying to access and configure the MySql installation through the root user ... no go ...
it's not that difficult to install apache and then MySql seperately ... and would save you a lot of headache later on ...
of course, the easiest thing to do would be to switch on IIS ...
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start with html. simplest of all.
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Originally posted by Fatum:
I would advise against the XAMPP thingy ... I went through a lot of trouble trying to access and configure the MySql installation through the root user ... no go ...
it's not that difficult to install apache and then MySql seperately ... and would save you a lot of headache later on ...
of course, the easiest thing to do would be to switch on IIS ...
Hmm...I had not much of a trouble using XAMPP to test my PHP scripts with some connecting to MySQL databases ever since the first time I came across it 2 years ago. A pretty simple installation process for the novice user actually. But I recently switched to WAMP because it offers some of the more advanced features I needed, though it is not updated as often as XAMPP.
Till now, I still can't figure out how to install Apache + PHP (with all the extensions and modules I need) + MySQL on a Windows machine on my own.
And oh no, no IIS please. I want to play with mod_rewrite as well.
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Originally posted by Fatum:
I would advise against the XAMPP thingy ... I went through a lot of trouble trying to access and configure the MySql installation through the root user ... no go ...
it's not that difficult to install apache and then MySql seperately ... and would save you a lot of headache later on ...
of course, the easiest thing to do would be to switch on IIS ...
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Xampp is a great program. Just that alot of people don't know how to use it or manipulate it to it's max potential
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迟到者X!, till now I havben master PHP :(
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Originally posted by LatecomerX:
Hmm...I had not much of a trouble using XAMPP to test my PHP scripts with some connecting to MySQL databases ever since the first time I came across it 2 years ago. A pretty simple installation process for the novice user actually. But I recently switched to WAMP because it offers some of the more advanced features I needed, though it is not updated as often as XAMPP.
Till now, I still can't figure out how to install Apache + PHP (with all the extensions and modules I need) + MySQL on a Windows machine on my own.
And oh no, no IIS please. I want to play with mod_rewrite as well.
I thought WAMP has Apache installed along with it? You can run PHP with WAMP mah...
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Originally posted by LatecomerX:
Hmm...I had not much of a trouble using XAMPP to test my PHP scripts with some connecting to MySQL databases ever since the first time I came across it 2 years ago. A pretty simple installation process for the novice user actually. But I recently switched to WAMP because it offers some of the more advanced features I needed, though it is not updated as often as XAMPP.
Till now, I still can't figure out how to install Apache + PHP (with all the extensions and modules I need) + MySQL on a Windows machine on my own.
And oh no, no IIS please. I want to play with mod_rewrite as well.
the key is to install MySQL first before Apache and then PHP .... a bit of sweating, but less cursing than using XAMPP for me ... you just need to set the right paths in the .conf file for it to read PHP ...
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Go to the libary and look for the computer section
Learn Basic HTML.
If you are lazy as me, go to geocities and sign up for a free account
i use adobe flash/photoshop/dreamweaver for my website, but not veri pro in all those
www.flashvillage.com have nice flash templates available for free
do a search and u can find alot of free templates
but nothings beats design with photoshop, crop, and coding of HTML by hand
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Originally posted by Fatum:
I would advise against the XAMPP thingy ... I went through a lot of trouble trying to access and configure the MySql installation through the root user ... no go ...
it's not that difficult to install apache and then MySql seperately ... and would save you a lot of headache later on ...
of course, the easiest thing to do would be to switch on IIS ...
What's your version of XAMPP? Do you use the installer?If so, that could explain some problems...
Oh... and IIS can sometimes be a nut itself.
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Originally posted by Fatum:
I would advise against the XAMPP thingy ... I went through a lot of trouble trying to access and configure the MySql installation through the root user ... no go ...
it's not that difficult to install apache and then MySql seperately ... and would save you a lot of headache later on ...
of course, the easiest thing to do would be to switch on IIS ...