iPhone - Do you think it will be here?
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As per topic title.
My guess is no... telecommunications rules doesn't allow locking down of SIM cards to a particular operator only...
Plus, we have just recently allowed consumers to freely switched between operators...
Not to say profits...
And... what's the hype about it? The phone, other than looking nice still got what functions?
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It can transform into a robot.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:As per topic title.
My guess is no... telecommunications rules doesn't allow locking down of SIM cards to a particular operator only...
Plus, we have just recently allowed consumers to freely switched between operators...
Not to say profits...
And... what's the hype about it? The phone, other than looking nice still got what functions? 
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Its just part of the Apple appeal. If it can do the dishes and laundry, I wouldn't mind.
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Well... once at&t's contract finish, mac is free to release it out in SG where IDA had stated that no locking of communication device to a particular service since years ago...
Like when starhub just launch, their mobile all locked to their service... -
I might as well get a real robot. At least, there's not much restrictions.
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One wonders how long is the contract between AT&T and Apple.Originally posted by caleb_chiang:Well... once at&t's contract finish, mac is free to release it out in SG where IDA had stated that no locking of communication device to a particular service since years ago...
Like when starhub just launch, their mobile all locked to their service...
Anyway, there's no AT&T providers here... it will be the fight between the 3 local telcos... -
no good one dah!!
dunno wats the hype about it. -
Unlocked versions will be available... at $1,000 per piece.
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It really is a very innovative phone. It's a phone with a 'real' web browser and it has a revolutionary interface that everyone is trying to copy now.
However, I have to say I'm not really interested. It's too expensive and too locked-down for me. I'll reconsider once the SDK is released and I see what kinds of third-party apps come out. -
Crazy... but then again, unlocked versions in US cost about USD 700++... translate to SGD is about there.Originally posted by ^tamago^:Unlocked versions will be available... at $1,000 per piece. -
It's perhaps one of the best phones around, with it being able to work somewhere near a PC... though it ain't exactly one.Originally posted by Phaze:It really is a very innovative phone. It's a phone with a 'real' web browser and it has a revolutionary interface that everyone is trying to copy now.
However, I have to say I'm not really interested. It's too expensive and too locked-down for me. I'll reconsider once the SDK is released and I see what kinds of third-party apps come out.
But... for the price of it... one might as well buy a PC which costs a whole lot lesser. -
jail break it and install any sh!t u like..
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Asspensive
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A blackberry does the same too and with actual buttons, it makes it easier to type. iPhone is a little too funky.Originally posted by Phaze:It really is a very innovative phone. It's a phone with a 'real' web browser and it has a revolutionary interface that everyone is trying to copy now.
However, I have to say I'm not really interested. It's too expensive and too locked-down for me. I'll reconsider once the SDK is released and I see what kinds of third-party apps come out. -
Asspensive lor really. Assume 1k for now
Use the money buy EEE(600$), left around(400$) can let you wack some nice phones -
just had the chance to touch one.....the functions in there is pathetic
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Why not get the unlocked version and be able to install more crap?Originally posted by mr_sotong:jail break it and install any sh!t u like.. -
its same regulatory issues when apple wanted to launch in france and germany.
if i am not mistaken, they managed to get it approved in germany to avoid the anti competitiveness measure.
however, in france, they are required to offer an unlocked version for purchase. so what did they do? they priced it significantly upwards. if i rem the earlier pricing decisions, they set it at EUR400 for locked and EUR1000 for an unlocked version.
they can probably do a similar thing in singapore.
from previous news, it seems only M1 is seriously interested in bidding for the iPhone agreement.
honestly, in terms of launch, singapore is of quite low priority. have to go through approval from TAS on locked phones and market not exactly attractive. to my understanding, china is at the top of the list, with japan and korea next with CDMA versions.
it only makes sense. why would they want to launch in smaller markets? they rather focus on the larger markets and work their way down to the smaller ones.
US > Europe (UK, France, Germany) > China > Japan
also, vodaphone apparently has an agreement to carry iPhones in countries they operate in, so NZ and Aus is indirectly benefiting from this. intended launch is 3rd/4th qtr 2008 i think.
so singapore, can wait 2009 and beyond. -
actually so what's the big improvement from pda phones and blackberries to iphone?
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Quite right in terms of business sense... but sadly... the hype will be over by the end of this year, or better yet, first half of this year.Originally posted by pwnz0r:its same regulatory issues when apple wanted to launch in france and germany.
if i am not mistaken, they managed to get it approved in germany to avoid the anti competitiveness measure.
however, in france, they are required to offer an unlocked version for purchase. so what did they do? they priced it significantly upwards. if i rem the earlier pricing decisions, they set it at EUR400 for locked and EUR1000 for an unlocked version.
they can probably do a similar thing in singapore.
from previous news, it seems only M1 is seriously interested in bidding for the iPhone agreement.
honestly, in terms of launch, singapore is of quite low priority. have to go through approval from TAS on locked phones and market not exactly attractive. to my understanding, china is at the top of the list, with japan and korea next with CDMA versions.
it only makes sense. why would they want to launch in smaller markets? they rather focus on the larger markets and work their way down to the smaller ones.
US > Europe (UK, France, Germany) > China > Japan
also, vodaphone apparently has an agreement to carry iPhones in countries they operate in, so NZ and Aus is indirectly benefiting from this. intended launch is 3rd/4th qtr 2008 i think.
so singapore, can wait 2009 and beyond.
Technology moves fast, if it's going to be here only after 2009... one might as well consider getting a better phone.
And since the market here is small... whether or not it launches here doesn't really matter. I would rather better phones are launched here and doesn't cost as much. -
i know you disagree, but i believe iphones are here to stay...Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Quite right in terms of business sense... but sadly... the hype will be over by the end of this year, or better yet, first half of this year.
Technology moves fast, if it's going to be here only after 2009... one might as well consider getting a better phone.
And since the market here is small... whether or not it launches here doesn't really matter. I would rather better phones are launched here and doesn't cost as much.
its not really expensive.
if given us pricing, it would be about 600-700 SGD. compared to another pda phone, i rem paying 900 for an ipaq with 2 year plan about 1 yr ago.
so its well within market prices.
the greatest deal about the iphone is the dev enthusiast community as well as the 'relative' ease to write programs on OS X that works on the iphone.
in less than 6 months, the number of unauthorised apps available for free is staggering. imagine after the sdk is released.
i look at the iphone as a natural evolution from the ipod. current ipod users will just think, why do i need to carry 2 devices? i just have the iphone which combines both.
given the ipod's track record, iphone is no where going to disappear. the value proposition is too high for people who are too used to having an ipod.
im not sure of your views, but reading about it, it seems the iphone is a platform for apps, not just a phone. you can develop apps and programs for it, much like a computer.
im not a programmer but information sources lead me to understand that coding for OS X (linux related?) is far easier than trying to fight with windows mobile OS. -
I'm not sure if it's really easy to write apps for the iPhone. Frankly, I'm not so acquainted with a Mac OS. Looking at their current OS (Leopard), it does seem like programming in Mac is a whole lot easier, much more easier than in Linux or Windows, although both have RAD tools on developers hands. Perhaps it's the same on the iPhone.Originally posted by pwnz0r:i know you disagree, but i believe iphones are here to stay...
its not really expensive.
if given us pricing, it would be about 600-700 SGD. compared to another pda phone, i rem paying 900 for an ipaq with 2 year plan about 1 yr ago.
so its well within market prices.
the greatest deal about the iphone is the dev enthusiast community as well as the 'relative' ease to write programs on OS X that works on the iphone.
in less than 6 months, the number of unauthorised apps available for free is staggering. imagine after the sdk is released.
i look at the iphone as a natural evolution from the ipod. current ipod users will just think, why do i need to carry 2 devices? i just have the iphone which combines both.
given the ipod's track record, iphone is no where going to disappear. the value proposition is too high for people who are too used to having an ipod.
im not sure of your views, but reading about it, it seems the iphone is a platform for apps, not just a phone. you can develop apps and programs for it, much like a computer.
im not a programmer but information sources lead me to understand that coding for OS X (linux related?) is far easier than trying to fight with windows mobile OS.
Mac and Linux aren't really related, but they share the same base (both are derived from Unix).
If you use Linux, Apple shouldn't be too hard.
Pretty sure iPhone will lose the hype if consumers don't have the choice... Singaporeans just prefer choices than a lack of one. Unless there's going to be improvements over the phone, just like iPod, even if it's minor improvements. -
probably will be priced abt $200 - 250 above the i-touch
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I couldnt wait no longer so i got the ipod touch, haha ive been using it for like 2 months + already, i love it haha.
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my bro got a fake iphone from china but its super fake that its a totally different phone to me.