Custom build or Dell desktop..

• MidnightK

  14 Dec 07, 01:40

  How much would a custom build cost?
  A good one for gaming.. budget 1800..
  Is this Dell desktop good?
  http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/inspndt_530s?c=sg&cs=sgdhs1&l=en&s=dhs
  the 530s
• dbowie

  14 Dec 07, 01:41

  Graphics Card IMO not so good
• FBI

  14 Dec 07, 01:41

  sh1t don get dell.
  
  custom build is the best
• MidnightK

  14 Dec 07, 01:43

  Anyone can gimme recommendations?
  i'm not very good with these kinda stuffs
• FBI

  14 Dec 07, 01:49

  tell me first u need a gaming com, simple apps com or wat
• MidnightK

  14 Dec 07, 01:55

  more of a gaming com..
  can do some pretty decent stuffs..
  good graphics, sounds..
• FBI

  14 Dec 07, 01:56

  wats your budget?
• LatecomerX

  14 Dec 07, 01:58

  Originally posted by FBI:

  tell me first u need a gaming com, simple apps com or wat

  Originally posted by FBI:

  wats your budget?

  See starting post. -_-
  
  TS, if you are going custom, $1800 got include Windows ma?
  
• MidnightK

  14 Dec 07, 02:00

  Hmm.. how much is windows?
  i think i can convince my parents to get more budget.. maybe up to 2k
• FBI

  14 Dec 07, 02:01

  Originally posted by LatecomerX:

  See starting post. -_-
  
  TS, if you are going custom, $1800 got include Windows ma?
  

  sh1t didn'y read
• LatecomerX

  14 Dec 07, 05:15

  Originally posted by MidnightK:

  Hmm.. how much is windows?
  i think i can convince my parents to get more budget.. maybe up to 2k

  No idea, but should be around $200 or so.
  
  VideoPro selling their WCG build for $1799 inclusive of monitor and Windows Vista Home Premium. I suggest upgrading it to XP Pro. And since it includes an above-average CPU cooler, you may want to upgrade the motherboard to an Asus or Gigabyte as well and overclock your CPU a little to get more juice out of it. A must would be an upgrade of RAM which wouldn't really cost you much these days. Consider spending the remainder of that $200 for a better graphics card if possible.
  
  Scroll to the last page of the file for the specs.
  (PDF file alert)
  http://sls.vr-zone.com/pricelist/vendorupload/videopro/videopro.pdf
  
  If you've the time, you may want to look at what other shops have to offer as well. Here's a site which provide a list of pricelists from SLS stores.
  
  http://sls.vr-zone.com/
  
• MidnightK

  14 Dec 07, 08:22

  Originally posted by LatecomerX:
  
  
  No idea, but should be around $200 or so.
  
  VideoPro selling their WCG build for $1799 inclusive of monitor and Windows Vista Home Premium. I suggest upgrading it to XP Pro. And since it includes an above-average CPU cooler, you may want to upgrade the motherboard to an Asus or Gigabyte as well and overclock your CPU a little to get more juice out of it. A must would be an upgrade of RAM which wouldn't really cost you much these days. Consider spending the remainder of that $200 for a better graphics card if possible.
  
  Scroll to the last page of the file for the specs.
  [b](PDF file alert)
  http://sls.vr-zone.com/pricelist/vendorupload/videopro/videopro.pdf
  
  If you've the time, you may want to look at what other shops have to offer as well. Here's a site which provide a list of pricelists from SLS stores.
  
  http://sls.vr-zone.com/
  [/b]

  thanks bro..
  vista premium not recommended? but harddisk 250gb, it doesnt' cost much to upgrade it to 500gb?
  but if the possible motherboard, graphics card upgrade may add up more than 2k?
• abao

  14 Dec 07, 08:44

  imo, the WCG system specs is good enough for the current games and perhaps 1-2 years future proof.
  
  The GeForce 8600GT can play Hellgate London quite well le.
  
  If you are cash strapped, then dont bother to change the motherboard.
  
  Just upgrade to 2GB RAM.
  
  Get windows XP Pro. Vista (all builds) is resource/ power hog. If you use Vista, then might as well get 4GB RAM.
  
  250GB HDD is usually more than enough, though its your choice so I cant interfere with your decision.
  
  

  From videopro pricelist:
  500GB HDD - Hitachi $185, Seagate $199
  2x1GB RAM - ard $30x2
  XP Pro - $195-199
  

• the Bear

  14 Dec 07, 08:47

  point about vista...
  
  my sister's company techs went about turning ALL their terminals back to XP because, in their words "vista is a piece of &*$^ and it &$%@ing doesn't work"
  
  
  
  and with gaming, it's going to hog a lot of resources.. and vista is a resource hog.. that means you NEED serious hardware.. really really serious hardware.. just to run the games..
• MidnightK

  14 Dec 07, 08:50

  Originally posted by abao:

  imo, the WCG system specs is good enough for the current games and perhaps 1-2 years future proof.
  
  The GeForce 8600GT can play Hellgate London quite well le.
  
  If you are cash strapped, then dont bother to change the motherboard.
  
  Just upgrade to 2GB RAM.
  
  Get windows XP Pro. Vista (all builds) is resource/ power hog. If you use Vista, then might as well get 4GB RAM.
  
  250GB HDD is usually more than enough, though its your choice so I cant interfere with your decision.
  
  

  RAM is so cheap? i thought it costs much much more.. will your suggestion into consideration.. thanks mate
• MidnightK

  14 Dec 07, 08:55

  Originally posted by the Bear:

  point about vista...
  
  my sister's company techs went about turning ALL their terminals back to XP because, in their words "vista is a piece of &*$^ and it &$%@ing doesn't work"
  
  
  
  and with gaming, it's going to hog a lot of resources.. and vista is a resource hog.. that means you NEED serious hardware.. really really serious hardware.. just to run the games..

  HAHAHA!! but the graphics look cool for vista, my sch is using it for the computers..
  so kinda itching for it..
• the Bear

  14 Dec 07, 08:57

  if you want graphics and not gaming, go get an Apple
  
  

  Originally posted by MidnightK:

  HAHAHA!! but the graphics look cool for vista, my sch is using it for the computers..
  so kinda itching for it..

• MidnightK

  14 Dec 07, 09:03

  i prefer the latter =D
  but apple i don't really need it.. maybe in the future..
  a new desktop to take over my laptop first..
• Phaze

  14 Dec 07, 09:44

  Originally posted by MidnightK:

  more of a gaming com..
  can do some pretty decent stuffs..
  good graphics, sounds..

  If you like to overclock, tweak and customize, go build your own.
  
  If you can't really be bothered, get a Dell. But don't get integrated graphics! If those desktops are the only option in your budget, go build you own.
  
  I'm not sure why people are so down on Dell. I've had a pretty good experience with them at least for laptops anyway.
  
  You can configure a pretty reasonable gaming PC on Dell's website. It really depends on how much you want to spend.
  
  I don't really chase the high end so I think an 8600GT/GTS in the Inspiron desktop is good enough. But if you feel you need more power, you will have to get an XPS and a 8800GT. You still won't be able to play Crysis though.
• abao

  14 Dec 07, 09:59

  Originally posted by MidnightK:

  HAHAHA!! but the graphics look cool for vista, my sch is using it for the computers..
  so kinda itching for it..

  u want the look and feel of vista? look for a thread called vista transformation thread.
  
  http://sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=294843
  
  that'll give you the looks without the resource hog.
• MidnightK

  14 Dec 07, 10:07

  Originally posted by abao:

  u want the look and feel of vista? look for a thread called vista transformation thread.
  
  that'll give you the looks without the resource hog.

  whoa, thanks man..
  just checked it out.. super cool! all the more i wanna get..
  but it's not that good for games right.. 8800GT and 2GB RAM powerful enough for vista?
• lifeisgood9989

  14 Dec 07, 10:47

  for me less than 1000 bucks is enough.. not including monitor
• abao

  14 Dec 07, 11:05

  Originally posted by Phaze:

  I'm not sure why people are so down on Dell. I've had a pretty good experience with them at least for laptops anyway.
  

  There are some reasons people are pouring cold water on Dell.
  
  1. Exploding laptop incident.
  2. There's some models on Dell that spoils easily. Though they probably retified the problems by now.
  
  All these small mistakes leaves bad impression on ppl ma.
  
  The only thing I like about Dell PC is they components spoil before 3 year warranty is up...free repairs
  
  *applies to a certain model only
• manyu882

  14 Dec 07, 15:24

  INtegrated graphics can play decent games liao... no need waste money go buy one graphic card. however, if u find thats not enuff, go ahead and by.. i'm just suggesting a cheaper alternative for your needs.
  
  These are the tests done by VR zone members....
  
  http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=129343
  for eg, GMA X3000
  
  

  Current Game Functionality
  All information was taken from test bed (B)*
  
  
  
  All information is based on acceptable frame rates within gameplay
  
  *Test bed (A) consists of:
  
  E6300 Core 2 Duo @ 1.86Ghz
  Intel DG965LV
  512MBx2 Samsung PC2-4300
  Western Digital Caviar 250GB 7200RPM (IDE)
  TSSTcorp TS-H652D (IDE)
  
  GMA X3000 Onboard
  
  *Test bed (B) consists of:
  
  E6700 Core 2 Duo @ 2.66Ghz
  Intel DG965LV
  1GBx4 OCZ Reaper HPC Edition PC2-6400
  Fujitsu MAS336RNC 36GB 15,000 RPM (SCSI)
  Hitachi Ultrastar A7K1000 1TB 7200RPM (SATA)
  Western Digital Caviar SE 250GB 7200RPM (SATA)
  Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250GB 7200RPM (SATA)
  LITE-ON LH-20A1L-05 (SATA)
  LITE-ON LH-20A1L-05 (SATA)
  
  GMA X3000 Onboard

• kenn3th

  14 Dec 07, 15:27

  any thing with vista in it, does not go well with games.