Outlook for the IT industry ....
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Okie ... serious thread ...
cos I am seriously seriously contemplating returning to Singapore ....
people tell me there are jobs galore ... but wages are depressed because of influx of cheap foreign labour .....
so ... what are the prospects for someone with a com sci degree ... with .NET, database and engineering app experience ? ... -
Where u now?Working as wad?
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There are definitely jobs here, but from what I know, quite a few companies here prefer you to know Java. If you already know C or C++, moving to Java isn't difficult as the concepts are basically the same.
Database wise, knowledge of MSSQL, Oracle and/or MySQL is preferred.
Pay is around $1000++ to $2000++, depending on who you are working for. If it's a MNC, the pay tends to be higher. Local companies tend to pay lower unless you are leading a team aka project manager. -
I seriously don't think the IT industry has much of a future here in Singapore if you're just going to work for companies..
Too many Indians IT Techs around that will make your salary low. -
jobs galore? ya BUT.... mostly r lowly paid/ironman ones... seriously stay in canada better... here the IT ppl r underpaid... n programmer face big competition from the indian/cheena job seeker(they r not special talent)... no real stability oso... better improve urself to higher position then come bk...Originally posted by Fatum:Okie ... serious thread ...
cos I am seriously seriously contemplating returning to Singapore ....
people tell me there are jobs galore ... but wages are depressed because of influx of cheap foreign labour .....
so ... what are the prospects for someone with a com sci degree ... with .NET, database and engineering app experience ? ... -
So does it mean if I'm in the IT sector, it would be better to migrate for work once I hit the working stage?Originally posted by stellazio:I seriously don't think the IT industry has much of a future here in Singapore if you're just going to work for companies..
Too many Indians IT Techs around that will make your salary low. -
i would guess so. too many FT making your pay low and stagnant.Originally posted by LatecomerX:So does it mean if I'm in the IT sector, it would be better to migrate for work once I hit the working stage? -
Actually, if he prefers, can start learning Linux or Apple. Some companies are switching to alternative platforms and that's what killing the foreign talents.Originally posted by BrUtUs:jobs galore? ya BUT.... mostly r lowly paid/ironman ones... seriously stay in canada better... here the IT ppl r underpaid... n programmer face big competition from the indian/cheena job seeker(they r not special talent)... no real stability oso... better improve urself to higher position then come bk... -
20,000 alone each year from bangalore
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software developer for a Canadian engineering company ... mostly real time reporting apps for hardware equipment, comms stuff .... windows apps .... but also databases, and also, .NET based N-tiered distributed systems .....Originally posted by lpx88:Where u now?Working as wad?
I also have some familiarity with *ix platforms ....
thinking of exploring opportunities back home in Singapore ... -
it's the same everywhere lah .... though I know I make more than what I'll make in Singapore now, I don't get CPF, I fork out nearly 40% in taxes, I pay 14% GST .... so it ends up more or less the same .....Originally posted by BrUtUs:jobs galore? ya BUT.... mostly r lowly paid/ironman ones... seriously stay in canada better... here the IT ppl r underpaid... n programmer face big competition from the indian/cheena job seeker(they r not special talent)... no real stability oso... better improve urself to higher position then come bk...
and as for the indians and cheenas ... they are here too ..... and if we are getting second tier talents in Singapore, it's only because all the first tiers are already in north america .... competition is stiffer here also ......
I dunno lah ... things are still hanging in the air right now .... -
Be out of the box. Dont just do what the rest are doing. For example instead of C programming, you can go into other programming language which is unique.
Upgrade yourself and dont be stagnant. People like Mayi willl excel in IT if she takes the correct IT path and upgrades herself constantly.. -
unique languages ? ...
sure ... I know prolog and haskell .....
fark if I know where are they used in the real world though ....
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not very good from what i heard
where i work (you know where), we have influx of IT peeps who want to change industry
coz of competition from cheaper labour from India
mind you, even the chap who is doing my .net application is from India
qualifications wise, a bit grey and shady, but nobody cares, they cut cost anyway -
wah lau ... you're scaring me man ....Originally posted by laurence82:not very good from what i heard
where i work (you know where), we have influx of IT peeps who want to change industry
coz of competition from cheaper labour from India
mind you, even the chap who is doing my .net application is from India
qualifications wise, a bit grey and shady, but nobody cares, they cut cost anyway
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this is gathered from some IT peeps who just recently joined my company, plus info from my boss coz she interviewed some
we both noticed that there is a influx of IT people into my industry, with one chap even take Masters in Finance when he previously studied IT in uni -
I've thought of going back to school at SMU also ...Originally posted by laurence82:this is gathered from some IT peeps who just recently joined my company, plus info from my boss coz she interviewed some
we both noticed that there is a influx of IT people into my industry, with one chap even take Masters in Finance when he previously studied IT in uni 
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to study what?Originally posted by Fatum:I've thought of going back to school at SMU also ... -
Fat tummyOriginally posted by laurence82:to study what? -
whatever they can offer ....Originally posted by laurence82:to study what?
one can never have too much paper ..... -
the chap...who got IT degree is now studying Masters of Finance in SMUOriginally posted by Fatum:whatever they can offer ....
one can never have too much paper .....
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I'm thinking of doing something similar .... or get another B in something totally different ...Originally posted by laurence82:the chap...who got IT degree is now studying Masters of Finance in SMU
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especially in this field ....
70% of the people at my work place have a masters or are P.Eng ..... a bachelors is no longer enough ...
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...................Originally posted by UrPwned:Be out of the box. Dont just do what the rest are doing. For example instead of C programming, you can go into other programming language which is unique.
Upgrade yourself and dont be stagnant. People like Mayi willl excel in IT if she takes the correct IT path and upgrades herself constantly..
There's no such thing as correct path. Neither will upgrading oneself constantly guarantee you a job.
Being unique doesn't guarantee you a job as well... because it's so rare that one wonders if it's ever practical to implement. -
$1000 ++ $2000++ - that give you a clue to how bad the IT is here !!!Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:There are definitely jobs here, but from what I know, quite a few companies here prefer you to know Java. If you already know C or C++, moving to Java isn't difficult as the concepts are basically the same.
Database wise, knowledge of MSSQL, Oracle and/or MySQL is preferred.
Pay is around $1000++ to $2000++, depending on who you are working for. If it's a MNC, the pay tends to be higher. Local companies tend to pay lower unless you are leading a team aka project manager. -
I know java of course .... did some JSP work as well ...
but fark ! .... $1000 to $2000 ? .... if a degree holder gets that much, how much are the poly grads getting ? ....