Beer-drinking model faces caning in Malaysia
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AFP - Tuesday, July 21
KUALA LUMPUR, July 21, 2009 (AFP) - - A religious court in Malaysia has sentenced a tearful Singaporean Muslim model to six strokes of the cane after she drank beer in a nightclub, reports said Tuesday.
Kartika Sari Dewi Shukarno, 32, pleaded guilty to consuming alcohol at a hotel nightclub in the eastern state of Pahang last year, the New Straits Times newspaper reported.
"We feel the sentence is fair after going through the prosecution's argument and since the rotan (cane) is provided for in the law," Pahang Sharia High Court judge Abdul Rahman Yunus said, according to the paper.
"The rotan is aimed at making the accused repent and serves as a lesson to Muslims," he added, also fining Kartika 5,000 ringgit (1,412 dollars).
The model, who cried when the judgement was delivered, said she would appeal.
State religious officials could not be reached for comment on the case.
Malaysia, which has large Indian and Chinese minorities freely enjoying alcohol, has a two-track legal system. Civil courts operate alongside state-based sharia courts, which can try Muslims for religious offences.
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Does the religious court in Malaysia has the right to treat the Singapore muslim such since she is not a citizen of Malaysia?
REally too much!
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Six strokes is too excessive.
Damn it!
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
Does the religious court in Malaysia has the right to treat the Singapore muslim such since she is not a citizen of Malaysia?
REally too much!
Singapore also caned an American when he vandalised our street signs in the past.
But in this case, given that the accused is a woman, they should change the sentence to jailing and fining her instead of caning her.
I have no problem with a Muslim male being caned though.
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drink beer get 6 strokes -.-
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Originally posted by Forbiddensinner:
Singaproe also caned an American when he vandalised our street signs in the past.
But in this case, given that the accused is a woman, they should change the sentence to jailing and fining her instead of caning her.
I have no problem with a Muslim male being caned though.
that is different, you have to compare apple to apple.michael fay vandalised but the model just merely drink beer. Vandalism in Singapore is a crime.
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Female also will tio cane de ah
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Originally posted by Day Dreamer:
Female also will tio cane de ah
Islam does not care if you male or female, not right they just whack.But i am thinking it is really not right for the Malaysia religious court to cane a non Malaysia citizen.
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Ultimately, you have to abide by the country's laws lah.
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we have to find out if she is there as a tourist. If she is then it is uncalled for to treat tourist such
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
we have to find out if she is there as a tourist. If she is then it is uncalled for to treat tourist such
Tourists or not, they will still have to follow the country's laws.
The punishment is still too harsh though anyway.
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
we have to find out if she is there as a tourist. If she is then it is uncalled for to treat tourist such
Some countries just want to show there are no leniency foreigners or locals when their laws are broken.
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She's a Muslim, she broke the law in a state that has Syariah courts, and therefore has to face the same consequences as other criminals.
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So to say the Islam law is applicable across the board all over the world?
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
So to say the Islam law is applicable across the board all over the world?
Maybe,maybe not
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
So to say the Islam law is applicable across the board all over the world?
Which part of Pahang do you fail to see? -
Originally posted by Fantagf:
So to say the Islam law is applicable across the board all over the world?
Only in Muslim countries.
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
Which part of Pahang do you fail to see?
What do u mean, is this an appropriate question? -
Originally posted by Fantagf:
What do u mean, is this an appropriate question?
The law clearly came from M'sia and is therefore applicable in M'sia. It might be applicable elsewhere but to say it's applicable "across the board", "all over the world" in conclusion is not wise at all. -
Originally posted by SBS2601D:
The law clearly came from M'sia and is therefore applicable in M'sia. It might be applicable elsewhere but to say it's applicable "across the board", "all over the world" in conclusion is not wise at all.
please don't point finger at me when u are eye sight problem for ignoring the question mark .Please go check your eye sight before more are being accused by u
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
please don't point finger at me when u are eye sight problem for ignoring the question mark .Please go check your eye sight before more are being accused by u
Blame it on your poor phrasing. -
Originally posted by SBS2601D:
Blame it on your poor phrasing.
if u blind to see the question mark then be it that you have eye sight problem. so damn bloody unreasonable -
Originally posted by Fantagf:
if u blind to see he question mark then be it. so damn bloody unreasonable
Your ability to ask such a question shows clearly your comprehension skill....or the lack of. -
I feel that religious based courts should only try the citizens of that country.
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
Your ability to ask such a question shows clearly your comprehension skill....or the lack of.
If your poor eyesight cause you to miss the question mark then be it and stop being a pest to point fingers