can anyone tell me the link for free online translation fr Malay to English...

Originally posted by lionnoisy:

can anyone tell me the link for free online translation fr Malay to English...

it is basically saying that those applying to migrate to australia through agents/ agencies have been conned into paying expensive agent fees.

KERAJAAN Australia menjelaskan bahawa mereka yang ingin berhijrah ke negara itu tidak perlu menggunakan khidmat ejen penghijrahan semasa mengemukakan permohonan visa bagi mendapatkan status penduduk tetap Australia.

The Australian government advised for those who wish to migrate there (to Australia) do not need the services of migration agents when applying for visa for getting Australian PR status

Ini kerana sebahagian besar permohonan yang diproses Jabatan Imigresen dan Kerakyatan Australia (Diac) tidak dikemukakan ejen penghijrahan.

This is because most of the applications processed through the Department of Immigration and (Australian) Citizenship (DIAC) do not involve migration agents.

Pada masa yang sama, ejen penghijrahan juga tidak boleh mempengaruhi ataupun memberi prapengesahan mengenai hasil permohonan seseorang itu.

At the same time, migration agents cannot influence or provide any additional benefits towards the success of the application.

lazy to translate anymore

Translation in red

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ISU VISA HIJRAH KE AUSTRALIA
Australia: Pemohon juga boleh mohon secara langsung

Issuing of Migration Visa to Australia

Australia: Applicants may apply directly

By Chairul Fahmy Hussaini

KERAJAAN Australia menjelaskan bahawa mereka yang ingin berhijrah ke negara itu tidak perlu menggunakan khidmat ejen penghijrahan semasa mengemukakan permohonan visa bagi mendapatkan status penduduk tetap Australia.

The Australian Government has clarified that those interested in migrating to Australia do not need to use the services of a migration agent when applying for visa in order to obtain PR status in Australia.

Ini kerana sebahagian besar permohonan yang diproses Jabatan Imigresen dan Kerakyatan Australia (Diac) tidak dikemukakan ejen penghijrahan.

This is because most of the applications that is processed by Department of Immigration and Australian Citizenship (?) (DIAC) are not done through migration agents.

Pada masa yang sama, ejen penghijrahan juga tidak boleh mempengaruhi ataupun memberi prapengesahan mengenai hasil permohonan seseorang itu.

At the same time, the migration agent can neither influence nor give a prior approval with regards to the application results.

Ini dinyatakan secara jelas oleh Kerajaan Australia menerusi laman kedutaannya di sini - www.singapore.embassy.gov.au/sing/Visas%5fand%5fMigration.html

This has been clearly stated by the Australian Government via its embassy homepage as stated here: (see the link above)

Namun, sekiranya seseorang pemohon itu ingin mendapatkan khidmat ejen penghijrahan, mereka perlu memastikan ejen tersebut berdaftar dengan Penguasa Pendaftaran Ejen Penghijrahan Australia (Mara).

However, should the applicant want to use the services of a migration agent, they will need to ensure the agent is registered with the Migration Agent Registrations Authority (MARA).

Setiap ejen berdaftar dengan Mara perlu mematuhi kod tatatertib.

Every agent registered with MARA would need to adhere to a code of conduct.

Antara lain, sesebuah ejen penghijrahan itu mesti:

·         memaklumkan kepada pelanggannya taksiran yuran yang perlu dibayar bagi setiap jam atau bagi setiap perkhidmatan yang diberikan; dan,..........

·          

·         Di laman www.themara.com.au/Online/Default.asp?DeptID=136,### Mara menyatakan bahawa perkhidmatan tersebut adalah percuma dan mereka meneliti setiap aduan secara bebas - tanpa memihak kepada sama ada pemohon ataupun ejen penghijrahan.

Among others, the migration agent must:

-       Inform his/her customer the estimated fee that needs to be paid for each hour or for each service rendered, and…

-       On the site www.themara.com.au/Online/Default.asp?DeptID=136,### MARA has stated that such services (which services? The original Malay article is too vague =( ) are free and they will look through every complaint independently – without favouring either the applicant or the migration agent.

Originally posted by lotus999:

lol, noisy must be very disappointed! the article is not about how unhappy malaysian migrants are in ozzie but a reminder by the ozzie gahmen to would-be migrants that there is no need to engage migration agents.

This news may not cover the migration woes.Pl refer to my opening post..

I think there is some complaints.I am not sure they come fr Spore or MY.

 25 06. 2009,ST reads:

BERITA HARIAN

''Migration woes:Unhappy clients to meet agent in Melbourne''

On 26.06.2009,ST reads

BERITA HARIAN

''Migration SAGA:more complaints heard''

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

Are u sure u just believe all Oz official say?

Why are there so many agents using EX OZ immigration officer

to promote?search it.

reda here

1. Fraud, Immigration, Department, Migration, Visa, Multicultural ...

    - [ 翻译此页 ]
   4 Aug 2008 ... This credit file from Australian credit reporting agency, Baycorp (Aust) ... Mr O'Rourke is a respected ex-immigration officer who served in ...
   www.australiamigrationfraud.com/ - 网页快照 - 类似结果

3. Reliable International Migration Services

    - [ 翻译此页 ]
   We are associated with Mr. Michael Jeremy, Ex Immigration officer and MARA agent and MIA Advisor in Sydney , Australia Australia . ...
   www.reliablemigration.com/about%20us.htm

TO LIONNOISY:

ITS TIME TO KNOW THAT oz is like that all the time.....they are not perfect.forget about goin to oz.even if u do immigrate to oz...chances are that your parents legally cant immigrate along with u.so u will stuck in oz and parents stuck in spore forever.thats policy in oz.why u like oz until like that?its either u setup own factory by one man operation or no job.

Originally posted by tERMINATOR20000000:

TO LIONNOISY:

ITS TIME TO KNOW THAT oz is like that all the time.....they are not perfect.forget about goin to oz.even if u do immigrate to oz...chances are that your parents legally cant immigrate along with u.so u will stuck in oz and parents stuck in spore forever.thats policy in oz.why u like oz until like that?its either u setup own factory by one man operation or no job.

oh.i want to change,like Obama says.

If i can migrate,i can be a MP,state premier,them PM of Oz!!

wow.so good.Then,i can attend one interview on every two working days,

following the track of Kevin Rudd!!

http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/315326

Anyway if you all want to know more about lionnoisy:

He is a well known troll and troublemakers in sgforums, in fact he even resorted to the use of fake user accounts in order to create "support" for himself...

MAKEPEACE, MAKE CLONES?

A REPORT ON ATTEMPTED ASTROTURFING AND SOCKPUPPETING BY LIONNOISY

a lion puppet

For those who wondered what happened.

Lionnoisy created a clone called "makepeace" which he used in speakers corner to further his own agenda, trying to give people the impression that there are others out there that would agree with him.

Unfortunately he did a very poor job of hiding it.

This kind of behaviour is called sockpuppeting, ie. creating a false online identity to praise, defend or create the illusion of support for one’s self, allies or company.

A sockpuppet is an online identity used for purposes of deception within an Internet community. In its earliest usage, a sockpuppet was a false identity through which a member of an Internet community speaks while pretending not to, like a puppeteer manipulating a hand puppet.^[1]

In current usage, the perception of the term has been extended beyond second identities of people who already post in a forum to include other uses of misleading online identities. For example, a NY Times article claims that "sock-puppeting" is defined as "the act of creating a fake online identity to praise, defend or create the illusion of support for one’s self, allies or company."^[2]

The key difference between a sockpuppet and a regular pseudonym (sometimes termed an "alt") is the pretense that the puppet is a third party who is not affiliated with the puppeteer.

 

To "flame wars" and "phishing" we can now add "sock puppet." A sock puppet, for those still boning up, is a false identity through which a member of an Internet community speaks while pretending not to, like a puppeteer manipulating a hand puppet. Recently, a senior editor at The New Republic got in trouble for some particularly colorful sock puppetry.

 

When Lee Siegel began blogging for The New Republic, he found, as many others have, that Internet posters tend to be fairly outspoken — and a good number of the posters on the blog were harshly critical. An exception was ''sprezzatura,'' who regularly offered extravagant praise. After Mr. Siegel was criticized for his writing about Jon Stewart, host of ''The Daily Show,'' sprezzatura wrote: ''Siegel is brave, brilliant and wittier than Stewart will ever be. Take that, you bunch of immature, abusive sheep.'' A reader charged that sprezzatura was in fact Mr. Siegel, but sprezzatura denied it.

The reader turned out to be right. ...

After making some lame and hasty excuse about his account being hacked, lionnoisy suddenly abandoned all this threads in which him being sockpuppeting was being mentioned. Unfortunately his excuse cannot stand up to logic as he was seen responding to and talking back TO HIS OWN ACCOUNT.

This is what happened:

29th April 0932hrs a "user" called "makepeace" that had never posted before created a lionnoisy-sounding titled thread called "Oz Judge ban TV drama & interview glorify gangland wars "

Already suspisions were raised because the structure and phrasing of the title was signature of lionnoisy. The first post by this "makepeace" was as such:

Originally posted by makepeace:

 

Oz Supreme Judge Justice Betty King

bans TV drama serices & interviews

glorifying those in the gangland war.The bans to prevent

jurors to be affected while the trial of a murder case is in progress.

U hardly expect democratic and free country like Oz will

ban TV programmes .Right?

U wont know TV programmes on Oz gangsters

are so hot there.Right?

u wont know ganglang wars there also so frequent.Right?

1.Judge cuts down(TV) Nine's Underbelly

Milanda Rout | February 12, 2008

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23200497-7582,00.html

2.Judge bans 'crime mums' interview

Peter Gregory | April 22, 2008

Barbara Williams and Judith Moran,

the mothers of defendant Evangelos Goussis

and the widow of the murdered Lewis Moran

respectively,were interviewed.

Its damn interesting that this news was under

Entertainment section!!

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/entertainment/judge-bans-underbelly-report/2008/04/21/1208742836107.html?s_cid=rss_news

3.The Morgan family----the story of the murdered

http://www.melbournecrime.bizhosting.com/moran.family.htm

4.The story of the Boss ,Carl Williams,behind the killing

http://www.melbournecrime.bizhosting.com/carl.williams.htm

5.u can learn more by seraching Justice Betty King

in www.yahoo.com.au

6.Questions

A.Why the media want to air the interview while the trial

is still on?

B.How are the gang activities in Down Under?

C.Am i look like anti--Oz?

D.How true are the postings in 3 and 4 listed above.

i dunt expect the there are so many details about

Oz gangsters.Can any one tell me more?

Note that other then for the user name, this post is virtually indistinguishable from the countless of other lionnoisy posts we can compare it with. The excessive reliance on the media, posting of hyperlinks, using warped logic that takes issues out of their context, and most tellingly the horrible english which make typos and grammatical errors right down to what lionnoisy would EXACTLY make is exactly what you'd expect from lionnoisy.

Hence lionnoisy must have been someone disappointed because after 20 minutes still nobody bothered to reply to his post under makepeace. Hence he decided to bump his own thread.

But after a few lackluster replies, he finally decided to "talk" to makepeace

Originally posted by lionnoisy:

3.The Morgan family----the story of the murdered

http://www.melbournecrime.bizhosting.com/moran.family.htm

4.The story of the Boss ,Carl Williams,behind the killing

http://www.melbournecrime.bizhosting.com/carl.williams.htm

I cant believe there are so many killings

in the above links !!!

More excited than Holloywood movies!!

Note the bad acting, where he pretended to be "excited" and "surprised" about what he wrote himself.

Now this is the funny part, if his account was really hacked as he claimed it to be, he would certainly not be replying back to his "hacked" account so happily in such a way.

But in any case when he was exposed he made this very funny, frantic and desperate post trying to suddenly divorce himself from the actions of his sockpuppetry by claiming he was hacked. Unfortunately all a basic look at the thread will reveal what really happened, and that is nothing other then lionnoisy was caught red-handed sockpuppeting.

Originally posted by lionnoisy:

 

Why did u check IP and English of forumers?

i just know my acct has been hijacked and u post it!!

It seems u are faster than me?Looks so strange!!

Looks like it is a cyber crime and /or frame up.

Hv anyone(u know who i mean) hacked into my e mails and computers ?

Do i have to hire armed guards to stay outside my

pigeon hole?

I am seeking helps from ISD,CIA,FBI,MI 5 and 6,

PRC Kong Ang, etc to check who hijack my acct

and make me appearing as ''makepeace'' after

i click submit.How safe in this forum??

I will buy you Ya Kun coffee if your info can lead to

catch the criminal,

Forums owners and mods are hereby notified my formal ,written and distressing complaints to cyber crimes!!

Another paethetic, and desperate reply from him when he was cornered:

Originally posted by lionnoisy:

 

oh it is good.Then can help me saving time to see counsellors How to get rid of computers addicts!!bye

Those who want to see what happened can go here:

http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/315326

And some screencaps, so the evidence is preserved:

"mysterous" makepeace appears:

and of course his own excited and poorly acted "reply" to his own clone.

and his own desperate and feeble attempts to wriggle out of the situtation:

LOL, what a joker!