Family Court of Oz let girl 17,remove breats to live as boy
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Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:
Even if he is your son or daughter, you cannot live their lives for them. The best that you can do is to try to convince them not to do certain things. I cannot speak for other patrents but I will not stop them from destroying their own lives.
I make sure that they learn how to think properly and how to make good decisions.
I will try to influence their decisions if I think that they are bad decisions and I will not provide support, like monetary support, but they have to make their own decisions and live their own lives.
Mr Tonti-Filippini regretted his decision. He has to live with the regret. It is pointless to sue his doctors and try to blame others for a decision he made. Nobody knows the future, nobody knows that he is going to regret his decision.
He just want money, same as you.If government gives you heaps of money to be silent, I'm sure you will be silent.
He's ungrateful, same as you.
After taking so much money from the government, you still want to be noisy about it.
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
I have a few muslim females told me that they wear tudong to prevent attracting attention which may lead to rape,molest.
Actually, this is somehow effective for so far I have not heard or read any news that any gals wearing tudong are raped and molested.
Are you sure?From what I understand those Middle Eastern country women are covered from head to toe and yet rape is rampant
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Originally posted by elindra:
Are you sure?From what I understand those Middle Eastern country women are covered from head to toe and yet rape is rampant
That I have no idea. Those muslim friends who told me are from Singapore, I don't think they are aware of what happen there in middle east on the rape -
Originally posted by parn:
He just want money, same as you.If government gives you heaps of money to be silent, I'm sure you will be silent.
He's ungrateful, same as you.
After taking so much money from the government, you still want to be noisy about it.
Even no matter how much money the govt have, they still want more. Why?
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
That I have no idea. Those muslim friends who told me are from Singapore, I don't think they are aware of what happen there in middle east on the rapeThat's pure BS
Actually we really don't have to look so farEven across our causeway the Tudang is not stopping rape
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Originally posted by Chew Bakar:
Even no matter how much money the govt have, they still want more. Why?
ha ha ha. they have insatiable appetite for money. perhaps they are theonly ones who are allowed to bring S$ to hell that is why. -
Originally posted by Fantagf:
That I have no idea. Those muslim friends who told me are from Singapore, I don't think they are aware of what happen there in middle east on the rapeIn middle east well-off men keep harlems of women. No entry even if you are close friends or relatives. Private use only.
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Originally posted by elindra:
That's pure BS
Actually we really don't have to look so farEven across our causeway the Tudang is not stopping rape
I am not sure about across the causeway. I merely stated that my muslim friends told me they wear tudong to prevent rape and molest. They did not go so far as to talk about other countries. BS, then you can talk to my muslim friends, I just merely stated what they said. Don't be so upset. -
Originally posted by Chew Bakar:
In middle east well-off men keep harlems of women. No entry even if you are close friends or relatives. Private use only.
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Originally posted by Chew Bakar:
In middle east well-off men keep harlems of women. No entry even if you are close friends or relatives. Private use only.
well said.....
Let our womenfolk who never jet over to the middle-east also know that they keep harlem of poor eastern European chicks.... -
Originally posted by 4sg:
well said.....
Let our womenfolk who never jet over to the middle-east also know that they keep harlem of poor eastern European chicks....Some are enslaves, so middle east men are not to be trifled. I'd seen the birders smuggled whole loads of African women. Very sad. Couldn't do much when I was there.
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Originally posted by angel7030:
Remove breast is ok, but try not to remove the nipples ya
the growing number of lesbian and homosexual all over the developed world.... -
Originally posted by lionnoisy:
Chief Justice of the Family Court of Australia
(Chief Justice of the Family Court of Australia)
http://www.theage.com.au/national/court-lets-girl-17-remove-breasts-20090503-arem.html?page=-1
Court lets girl, 17, remove breasts
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- Karen Kissane
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This is one of the most mysterious decisions of Oz court's decisions
i have read ,so far.This is so mysterious comparable to
Oz girl gang raped twice.Rapists jailed/probatin aft AG appeal
9 men released aft plead guilty gang raped girl aged 10
Facts
''THE Family Court has allowed a 17-year-old girl to have her breasts removed so she can be more like a boy.
The teenager, code-named "Alex", was on court-ordered hormone medication from the age of 13 to prevent menstruation and breast development. She returned to the court in December 2007 asking for a double mastectomy to make it easier for her to pass as a boy.
The Chief Justice of the Family Court, Diana Bryant, decided it was in the teenager's best interests to have the surgery immediately rather than wait until turning 18.''
critisms
''But ethicist Nick Tonti-Filippini said mainstream medicine did not recognise hormone treatments and surgery as treatment for gender dysphoria. He said it was a psychiatric disorder qualifying under American guidelines as a psychosis because "it's a belief out of accordance with reality".
"What you are trying to do is make a biological reality correspond to that false belief."''
''Mr Tonti-Filippini said he was also concerned that in previous Family Court cases involving gender dysphoria, the medical experts had been confined to a small group of Melbourne doctors who work with sex changes.
Mr Tonti-Filippini said a Melbourne man who had had sex-change surgery at 22 was now suing his doctors because he regretted the decision and felt they had not explored his doubts at the time.''
My thoughts
This is a psychiatric disorder and shall not be treated by sexual physical change.
Also,the court is too early to order
''hormone medication from the age of 13 to prevent menstruation and breast development''.
Have they tried psychiatric and psychlogical treatment to
the girl before the ordered medication?
2.This is too early to remove breats at the age of 17.What The judge said
is totally non--sense.
''The decision was not irrevocable: "You can have prostheses and things. So if he changed his mind later on, it's reversible."''
If Alex ,after the breats removed,decisde go back to live as a girl few years later,
will any guy accept the ill fated Alex come with prostheses?
3.Professional advices are sometimes not professional.
The court just listened to small group of doctors doing sexual change.
Sure,There is conflict of interest .Has the court listened to other doctors
evidences?
4.OMG!!
''Diana Bryant was appointed Chief Justice of the Family Court of Australia on 5 July 2004.''''
references--
Diana Bryant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Diana Bryant was appointed Chief Justice of the Family Court of Australia on 5 July 2004.''
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to be fair to the learned Judge,
u can read the sad story of Alex here
Young people, big decisions------why the ''girl ''Alex needs to remove her breats
at age 17!!
actually you're free to remove your testicles you know? if you need help and is on budget, i can do it for you at 50% discount.
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Originally posted by Chew Bakar:
Some are enslaves, so middle east men are not to be trifled. I'd seen the birders smuggled whole loads of African women. Very sad. Couldn't do much when I was there.
I guess the enlightened phrases like "human dignity" and "respect" are "wind by the ear" in their countries despite the religion.
These are illegal activities and guess where and how they do them?....
I don't say ...not appropriate in this forum... -
Originally posted by 4sg:
I guess the enlightened phrases like "human dignity" and "respect" are "wind by the ear" in their countries despite the religion.
These are illegal activities and guess where and how they do them?....
I don't say ...not appropriate in this forum...Money!
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Originally posted by parn:
He just want money, same as you.If government gives you heaps of money to be silent, I'm sure you will be silent.
He's ungrateful, same as you.
After taking so much money from the government, you still want to be noisy about it.
Andrew, when did PAP give you so much money?
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
Andrew, when did PAP give you so much money?
Under the table
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Originally posted by angel7030:
Under the table
I did not know your hero PAP gives under table money. -
Originally posted by Fantagf:
I did not know your hero PAP gives under table money.
If not how to get thing done.