Expiry products
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Will eating products which expire for a few days harm your health?
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dont think so.
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I think this question would be best answered by NS men
but personally I don't think so, however, that would not be my advice definitely. -
Usually what are the explanation from health personnels regarding expiry products? My mother likes to buy a lot of products during promotion and then keep at home till expire liao, then take out and let us eat... Is expiry goods (i.more than a few days; ii. more than 1 months) bad for health? How can I convince my mom not to do it frequently? I thought the chemical inside the products wil turn bad when expired?Originally posted by renorenal:I think this question would be best answered by NS men but personally I don't think so, however, that would not be my advice definitely. -
ahem..between u n me, its safe to consume food past its expiry date or best before date provided its been stored well. (no damage to packaging, etc).
Manufacturers are quite conservative when it comes to best before dates. They tend to understate the dates for safety sake. For example, pasta can last 10years, but manufacturers may put 8 years instead. How they measure the dates is by testing the food via ASLT (Accelerated Shelf Life Testing) and from the results they estimate the shelf life. Hence the nearer the food it is to the deadline, the higher the increase in bacteria population in the food. This means if you are a strong, healthy individual, it wont be any problems eating food passed the deadline. It is not recommended for vulnerable individuals such as elderly people, people with weak immune systems and babies. -
Oh btw, like i said..manufacturers tend to understate the shelf life. This means some manufacturers may go test batches 'nearing' their shelf life for bacterial content. If found to be in low, harmless amounts, the manufacturers 'may' repackaged the products and sell it
Eg, Nutella Products
Rebranded into 'house' or other brands and sold at 30% of price -
Exactly what I wanted to sayOriginally posted by alexkusu:ahem..between u n me, its safe to consume food past its expiry date or best before date provided its been stored well. (no damage to packaging, etc).
Manufacturers are quite conservative when it comes to best before dates. They tend to understate the dates for safety sake. For example, pasta can last 10years, but manufacturers may put 8 years instead. How they measure the dates is by testing the food via ASLT (Accelerated Shelf Life Testing) and from the results they estimate the shelf life. Hence the nearer the food it is to the deadline, the higher the increase in bacteria population in the food. This means if you are a strong, healthy individual, it wont be any problems eating food passed the deadline. It is not recommended for vulnerable individuals such as elderly people, people with weak immune systems and babies.
Especially yogurt and meat products past their expiry date for many days can cause you some days off, no work, no school, but you can't enjoy the days off. Botulism rules! -
How about those bread bought in NTUC? When I saw it past the expiry date, the bread becomes harden liao. But my father still eat it. He said it is okay to eat.Originally posted by alexkusu:ahem..between u n me, its safe to consume food past its expiry date or best before date provided its been stored well. (no damage to packaging, etc).
Manufacturers are quite conservative when it comes to best before dates. They tend to understate the dates for safety sake. For example, pasta can last 10years, but manufacturers may put 8 years instead. How they measure the dates is by testing the food via ASLT (Accelerated Shelf Life Testing) and from the results they estimate the shelf life. Hence the nearer the food it is to the deadline, the higher the increase in bacteria population in the food. This means if you are a strong, healthy individual, it wont be any problems eating food passed the deadline. It is not recommended for vulnerable individuals such as elderly people, people with weak immune systems and babies.
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As again, it is rather subjective. My recommendation is to forget about it and stick to the safety measures imprinted by the manufacturers. But as I have no knowledge of the tricks of the trades in the food packing company in terms of setting an expiry date, I shall leave this discussion to alexkusu who will give you a better idea and picture of what is happening.Originally posted by News:How about those bread bought in NTUC? When I saw it past the expiry date, the bread becomes harden liao. But my father still eat it. He said it is okay to eat.
After all, in wartimes, soldiers fighting for long periods of time don't get good food to eat, but surprisingly they still survive. It all depends variably in one's immune system. Some people sort of being said to have a stronger gut resistance while others have weaker resistance (hence manifesting as diarrhea, constipation, abdominal pain, bloatedness and excessive wind).
Since it is rather subjective, I shall remain quiescent -
great minds think alike!Originally posted by thinkdifferent:Exactly what I wanted to say
Especially yogurt and meat products past their expiry date for many days can cause you some days off, no work, no school, but you can't enjoy the days off. Botulism rules!
corny line huh?
Whats ur fascination with botulism? -
Botulism is like a pet you can keep and feed.Originally posted by alexkusu:great minds think alike!
corny line huh?
Whats ur fascination with botulism? -
Ur bread is just evolvin to different forms.Originally posted by News:How about those bread bought in NTUC? When I saw it past the expiry date, the bread becomes harden liao. But my father still eat it. He said it is okay to eat.
Alrighty then in simpler words, food safety is not the same as food quality. For example, food can deteoriate in quality (eg, colour loss, loss of shape, texture, etc) but it does not mean its not safe to eat. Hence ur dad 'may' be right that it is safe to eat. If he eats bread with mold in it, no harm done. Penicillin rite? -
Fascinating. I always thought of giving one away to my incompetent lecturer as my token of appreciationOriginally posted by thinkdifferent:Botulism is like a pet you can keep and feed. 
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Originally posted by alexkusu:
Ur bread is just evolvin to different forms.
Alrighty then in simpler words, food safety is not the same as food quality. For example, food can deteoriate in quality (eg, colour loss, loss of shape, texture, etc) but it does not mean its not safe to eat. Hence ur dad 'may' be right that it is safe to eat. If he eats bread with mold in it, no harm done. Penicillin rite? 
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i only know eating borrowed books from the library which expire for a few days will definitely harm your healthOriginally posted by News:Will eating products which expire for a few days harm your health? -
its true right!Originally posted by renorenal: -
Food spoilage is a gradual process, so it's not as if your food is good to eat on the eve of the expiry date, and bad the next. It's always better to check its actual condition after opening it.
And to get botulism, you require certain conditions which favour the production of the toxin by the bacteria in the food. -
I ate bread once which was already a few days past expiry date, nothing happened to me.
I ate yogurt and realized later it was already a few days past expiration, the next day I went to toilet nonstop -
Well, gangrene from mouldy wheat products and liver cancer from mouldy rice is nothing to laugh at -
Generally the risk of botulism in tinned foods is quite low. Manufacturers sterilise canned foods on the basis of 'botulinum cook' where the food is heated up to 121 degrees (enuf to kill/deactivate the c.bot). Hence if u get botulism from canned foods, you can get sue the company for millions...provided you are still alive.Originally posted by Kuali Baba:Food spoilage is a gradual process, so it's not as if your food is good to eat on the eve of the expiry date, and bad the next. It's always better to check its actual condition after opening it.
And to get botulism, you require certain conditions which favour the production of the toxin by the bacteria in the food.
One salmon company faced similar circumstances -
The problem with expiry product might be that you never knows what is happening in your body system when you eat it - which may be culminating --> maybe develop into some illness in future? Nobody knows. God knows.
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Since we are in peace time, we should not talk about wartimes conditions. Since there is no war now, we should be more aware of our health ba.Originally posted by renorenal:As again, it is rather subjective. My recommendation is to forget about it and stick to the safety measures imprinted by the manufacturers. But as I have no knowledge of the tricks of the trades in the food packing company in terms of setting an expiry date, I shall leave this discussion to alexkusu who will give you a better idea and picture of what is happening.
After all, in wartimes, soldiers fighting for long periods of time don't get good food to eat, but surprisingly they still survive. It all depends variably in one's immune system. Some people sort of being said to have a stronger gut resistance while others have weaker resistance (hence manifesting as diarrhea, constipation, abdominal pain, bloatedness and excessive wind).
Since it is rather subjective, I shall remain quiescent -
...which is why I have given my advise above, and also stating the foremost point (so as not to miss out anything, which in any case may deem me indifferent to all in general) in case anyone decides to start commenting about foods consumption during natural disasters and wartimes, and after all, most singaporean guys are NS men...Originally posted by News:Since we are in peace time, we should not talk about wartimes conditions. Since there is no war now, we should be more aware of our health ba.
...that also inadvertently tells that it is rather subjective to point to one conclusion, and no doubt everyone should be concerned about their health... -
Okay Dr Renorenal.Originally posted by renorenal:...which is why I have given my advise above, and also stating the foremost point (so as not to miss out anything, which in any case may deem me indifferent to all in general) in case anyone decides to start commenting about foods consumption during natural disasters and wartimes, and after all, most singaporean guys are NS men...
...that also inadvertently tells that it is rather subjective to point to one conclusion, and no doubt everyone should be concerned about their health...
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Originally posted by thinkdifferent:Botulism is like a pet you can keep and feed.
