Beware of those 'charity sellers'
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With the holidays set into momentum, students will start to search for part time jobs. This is also time, where 'charity touts' appear. These people, asking for donation, would usually loiter outside MRT stations and/or shopping centres, to get th donations. Like ask u to donate $5 for blah blah. It is good to help less fortunate. However, most of these activities, are illegal. They are conducting such activities, without a police permit.
Under Chapter 128 of the (law?), House to House And Street Collections Act. It is an offence to collect funds for charities without a Police Permit. Section 6, clearly explains the rules.
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Unauthorised use of badges, etc.
6. —(1) Any person who, in connection with any appeal to the public or any class of the public for subscriptions or contributions of money or other property —
(a) displays or uses a prescribed badge or a prescribed certificate of authority other than a badge or certificate which he is authorised, under any regulations made under this Act, so to display or use; or
(b) displays or uses any badge, device, emblem, certificate or other document intended, calculated or likely to cause any person to believe that the person displaying or using the same is an authorised collector for the purposes of a licensed collection when such is not the case,
shall be guilty of an offence.
(2) Any person who, in furnishing any information for the purposes of this Act or any regulations made thereunder, knowingly or recklessly makes any statement which is false in any material particular shall be guilty of an offence.
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Penalties.
8. —(1) Any person guilty of an offence under this Act for which no special penalty is provided by this Act or by any regulations made thereunder shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $1,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or to both.
(2) Where any offence under this Act is committed by any corporation, society, association or body of persons, every person charged with, or concerned or acting in, the control or management of the affairs or activities of the corporation, society, association or body of persons shall be deemed to be guilty of that offence and shall be liable to be punished accordingly unless it is proved by any such person that, through no neglect or omission on his part, he was not aware that the offence was being or was about to be committed or that he took all reasonable steps to prevent its commission.
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It is safer to request for a relevant police permit upon being asked to make donations. There is a recent case of a person, trying to collect funds for Mercy Relief. However, Mercy Relief released a statement that it is not doing such collections. That doesn't mean we should shun away from people who ask us to make donations.
However, at this point of time. I am not sure, that whether such fund-raising activities need to have another permit from the Commissioner of Charities. Chapter 37, Charities Act, section 39 states that ...
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Prohibition on conducting fund-raising appeal without permit.
39. —(1) No person shall conduct or participate in any fund-raising appeal unless he is —
(a) exempt from the provision of this section; or
(b) a person to whom a permit has been granted by the Commissioner in accordance with regulations made for the purpose of this section.
(2) Any person who contravenes or fails to comply with subsection (1) shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $10,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 years or to both. (3) The Minister, or such person as he may appoint, may exempt any person or class of persons from the provision of this section. (4) In this section and any regulations made for the purpose of this section —
"fund-raising appeal" means the soliciting or receiving from the public or any class of the public of any money or other property (whether for consideration or otherwise) which is made in association with a representation that the whole or any part of its proceeds is to be applied for charitable, benevolent or philanthropic purposes;
"proceeds" , in relation to a fund-raising appeal, means all money or other property given (whether for consideration or otherwise) in response to the fund-raising appeal in question.
(5) In this section and any regulations made for the purpose of this section, any reference to charitable purposes, where occurring in the context of a reference to charitable, benevolent or philanthropic purposes, is a reference to charitable purposes whether or not the purposes are charitable within the meaning of any rule of law.
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At this point of time, I am not very sure of how the permit granted by the Commissioner of Charities looks like. I presume that an approved police permit would have a SPF insignia at the top of the page.
Meanwhile, just tell those who are very persistent and irritating (and illegal, of course) that u are going to call the police. But, trust me, they are probably going to just laugh at u.
PS: The above sections quoted from the law, are taken from http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/ . -
YAh,some 1 tried to con me be4
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worst still, i met an indian fella who spoke in chinese to me what an insult?,.
Grr,do i look like a chinamen?TMD,why can he speak in english for goodness sake
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isn't the 2% gst hike like a forced donation
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a regressive tax that will force more to commit sucide on MRT tracksOriginally posted by mistyblue:isn't the 2% gst hike like a forced donation -
lol ... tt time more pro ...
I walk to CWP with my cls ... then i ask my cls, "wana eat' , tt bloody idiot come in and extra 'wana eat' ... we walk away, then i ask again ... then he extra follow and copy me 'wana eat' ... wtf ...
The whole cls tulan and walk away, heng he nvr come and talk to me... or I make sure police really come ... -
the 2% can then build more track lines for people to help themselvesOriginally posted by Chelzea:a regressive tax that will force more to commit sucide on MRT tracks 
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all dose punks make big bucks out of itOriginally posted by gd4u:lol ... tt time more pro ...
I walk to CWP with my cls ... then i ask my cls, "wana eat' , tt bloody idiot come in and extra 'wana eat' ... we walk away, then i ask again ... then he extra follow and copy me 'wana eat' ... wtf ...
The whole cls tulan and walk away, heng he nvr come and talk to me... or I make sure police really come ... realised dat many look ah beng wif dyed hair -
I'm not sure it's considered "regressive" though ....Originally posted by Chelzea:a regressive tax that will force more to commit sucide on MRT tracks
but then again ... squeezing different econs profs will get you different answers on this one ... -
The poor donate $ to gov ... and will get a few cents back liao ... very good liao lor ... sometimes ar, some ppl eat ur money, no refund one lor ... dunnoe all the $$$ pay wat TV fine wor ...Originally posted by mistyblue:isn't the 2% gst hike like a forced donation -
Like erm, PAP econs profs ??? I doubt their degrees ...Originally posted by Fatum:I'm not sure it's considered "regressive" though ....
but then again ... squeezing different econs profs will get you different answers on this one ... -
YAh,I guess dey wld just bring in more FTs to replace those ppl who bite e dustOriginally posted by mistyblue:the 2% can then build more track lines for people to help themselves -
anyone knows a chinese auntie ( small size and plump) in her 40s always selling charity ticket
outside paragon, near the traffic light is really raising fund or not har ?? -
I think they will need to bring in more durable trains instead ...
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As i said, ask for police permit from her ... dun have ... too bad, it is illegalOriginally posted by pqr:anyone knows a chinese auntie ( small size and plump) in her 40s always selling charity ticket
outside paragon, near the traffic light is really raising fund or not har ?? -
why?u kana con by her arOriginally posted by pqr:anyone knows a chinese auntie ( small size and plump) in her 40s always selling charity ticket
outside paragon, near the traffic light is really raising fund or not har ??
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the idea is to have more money in the treasury - how it is spent or wasted. No one knows. Maybe lots had been wasted already but who can tell. now, squeeze the largest common denominator - the general public to refill loh...Originally posted by gd4u:The poor donate $ to gov ... and will get a few cents back liao ... very good liao lor ... sometimes ar, some ppl eat ur money, no refund one lor ... dunnoe all the $$$ pay wat TV fine wor ...
You think the reason given "to help the poor" was the motive behind the 2%? -
they probably need to recoup e billions lost in shin corpOriginally posted by mistyblue:the idea is to have more money in the treasury - how it is spent or wasted. No one knows. Maybe lots had been wasted already but who can tell. now, squeeze the largest common denominator - the general public to refill loh...
You think the reason given "to help the poor" was the motive behind the 2%? -
Oh, there was sarcasm in my post... hmm ... getting help from gov... is as good as asking them to say sorry ...Originally posted by mistyblue:the idea is to have more money in the treasury - how it is spent or wasted. No one knows. Maybe lots had been wasted already but who can tell. now, squeeze the largest common denominator - the general public to refill loh...
You think the reason given "to help the poor" was the motive behind the 2%? -
China has billions of people, India has billions of people. Having 1-10 percent of them migrate over here taking up the former dead population and willing to work for extremely low wages... so why not? Plus don't need to take care of these people or listen to any whining about policies.Originally posted by Chelzea:YAh,I guess dey wld just bring in more FTs to replace those ppl who bite e dust -
yeah man..Originally posted by gd4u:Oh, there was sarcasm in my post... hmm ... getting help from gov... is as good as asking them to say sorry ...
the citizens had been blamed for every single stupid thing. -
U forgot to include those useless expats frm e westOriginally posted by mistyblue:China has billions of people, India has billions of people. Having 1-10 percent of them migrate over here taking up the former dead population and willing to work for extremely low wages... so why not? Plus don't need to take care of these people or listen to any whining about policies. snatching away our gals n e high end jobs in spore -
Shin corp is the only recent one.. I recall LHY is stepping down from singtel. Something is wrong as well. There are also lots of investments that had gone wrong - GIC, Temasek and etc.Originally posted by Chelzea:they probably need to recoup e billions lost in shin corp
Plus the current bunch of BB-boomers are retiring and will be withdrawing their CPF. I am sure with all that bad investments and such, CPF is not liquid enough to handle the number of withdrawals so the 2% GST and all those increases.
Next, the retirement age might once again be adjusted upwards. Maybe mee-siam mai hum folks think that everyone can 'work beyond' 80 like our examplary MM and adjust the retirement age to 90. Elites will tell us how tough it is to play golf and survive in the heat and how the non-survivers should all lie down on MRT tracks to reduce the number of problems we give to our elites and mee-siam-mai-hum-hip-hop folks. -
i guess e opening of e casinos are for dem to make fast buck as wellOriginally posted by mistyblue:Shin corp is the only recent one.. I recall LHY is stepping down from singtel. Something is wrong as well. There are also lots of investments that had gone wrong - GIC, Temasek and etc.
Plus the current bunch of BB-boomers are retiring and will be withdrawing their CPF. I am sure with all that bad investments and such, CPF is not liquid enough to handle the number of withdrawals so the 2% GST and all those increases.
Next, the retirement age might once again be adjusted upwards. Maybe mee-siam mai hum folks think that everyone can 'work beyond' 80 like our examplary MM and adjust the retirement age to 90. Elites will tell us how tough it is to play golf and survive in the heat and how the non-survivers should all lie down on MRT tracks to reduce the number of problems we give to our elites and mee-siam-mai-hum-hip-hop folks. WHAts next?spore has its own porn industry? -
our mai-hum folks only listen to the west mah. They say do this and we go yes sir. they take and we give way. They come to sg for conference, our govt tell us to smile at them and then newspaper offer 'escot serivces' to help these delegates get over their lonely days in SINgapore. Till today, our govt set the example to KowTow to the west.Originally posted by Chelzea:U forgot to include those useless expats frm e west snatching away our gals n e high end jobs in spore
We always think we are lower and lesser than west and the West take advantage of that. Shouldn't our guys and girls be proud of their identity. Oh wait, our identity was to wipe westerner arse...