Downtown Line Operator, SMRT or SBS Transit ??

• sinicker

  6 Sep 10, 00:24

  i choose Transtar.

• SMB66X

  6 Sep 10, 00:26

  Downtown line is most likely to be under SMRT. Reason being is because the depot is at Kranji. 

• i_luv_erky

  6 Sep 10, 00:30

  Originally posted by sinicker:

  i choose Transtar.

  Transtar ? Why not Grassland or Hong Thai ?
  
  Woodlands transport

• Junyang700

  6 Sep 10, 00:30

  Originally posted by SMB66X:

  Downtown line is most likely to be under SMRT. Reason being is because the depot is at Kranji. 

  The depot for Downtown Line is at Woodlands Road, not Kranji... The bus depot is deep inside Kranji....
  
  If you say like this, then SMRT shouldnt have AMDEP liao...
  SBST shouldnt have BBDEP also.

• SMB66X

  6 Sep 10, 00:34

  Originally posted by Junyang700:

  The depot for Downtown Line is at Woodlands Road, not Kranji... The bus depot is deep inside Kranji....
  
  If you say like this, then SMRT shouldnt have AMDEP liao...
  SBST shouldnt have BBDEP also.

  Just nice...SMRT hold 1/4 of Singapore, SBST hold 3/4 of Singapore :D

• Samuel Lee

  6 Sep 10, 01:07

  Originally posted by Junyang700:

  The depot for Downtown Line is at Woodlands Road, not Kranji... The bus depot is deep inside Kranji....
  
  If you say like this, then SMRT shouldnt have AMDEP liao...
  SBST shouldnt have BBDEP also.

  The Gali Batu Depot is at Woodlands Road. Oh well, it is definitely planned to have an extension from current Bukit Panjang to Kranji, it was not announced but foreseeable prediction because of their cheapo design to follow closely to road, at an expense of not interchanging with the LRT station (Unless they planned to do BPMP - Bukit Panjang LRT Modification Project, in conjunction with the re-development of Ten Mile Junction, then .....) and by following the road, it will lead to Kranji, and most likely interchange it. (But it will be an expense of building for about 2 or 3 ghost stations like Bukit Brown, so cannot.)

• sgbuses

  6 Sep 10, 03:53

  SBS Transit.

  TIBS failure to get the Circle Line was its final nail in the coffin. Who gets the contract would decide the climate of competition for our public transportation for the next decade - whether we would remain as bus company vs rail company, or a more fairer competition with both modes of transport.

   

• leo2010agendas

  6 Sep 10, 04:21

   I hoped DTL  SMRT and SBST  TSL and ERL and other future lines

  
  1) would rather hear  "Ding dong, Please do not lean on the train doors. Next Station, DT3 Hillview"  than to hear "Deng deng deng deng deng , Next Station, DT3 Hillview...山景"
  2) SMRT has more experience in operating MRT.
  3) This is the one that most of you can't point: STARIS. Since C151s and C651 have STARIS, and C951s will also have something like STARIS, therefore, SMRT should also deserve operating DTL as it has about 1.5-2 years of experience operating STARIS.

• Dragonaxe

  6 Sep 10, 06:38

  Originally posted by TIB1051D:

  actually, i would cast my votes on SMRT. firstly, due to the fact that DTL and CCL are sharing the same depot at KCD. next, if i remember correctly, it has once been said that DTL and CCL are operating on the same signalling systems. it's high likely that SMRT will win the tender.

  Yes, their signalling system is the same (or maybe just compatible) so that C951s can go to the temporary maintainence depot at Marina Bay CCL. BUT In order not to have any disruptions or what so ever. A TEMPORARY OCC Will be build at KCD

• c751bLoVuR

  6 Sep 10, 08:37

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• i_luv_erky

  6 Sep 10, 09:38

  Originally posted by c751bLoVuR: Current Polling list:

  SBS    :

  1. Junyang700 ,
  2. i_luv_erky , 
  3. SmRtFrEaks , 
  4. Veyron16.4 ,
     
  5. Dragonaxe , 
  6. sbst275 , 
  7. tranquilice ,
     
  8. service_238 , 
  9. bus555
  10. Y_Shun
  11. kengkia
  12. Fryderyk HPH

  
  SMRT :

  1. Ajen ,
     
  2.  joeyfjj , 
  3. c751bLoVuR, 
     
  4. muziq bus , 
  5. mrtdude5 , 
  6. QX179R , 
  7. alstom metropolis , 
  8. Samuel Lee , 
  9. Kawac151
  10. smrt3099
  11. SBS7322B
  12. SBS7338G
  13. azharjj
  14. TIB1051D

  
  Prime Taxis :

   

  1. wenjie639

  
  FirstGroup PLC:

   

  1. TPS Timothy Mok
     
     

  LTA :

  1. SMB66X

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  SMRT currently  wins with 14 votes

   

  @i_luv_erky

  Please update

  Current Polling list:
  
  SBS    :

  1. Junyang700 ,
  2. i_luv_erky , 
  3. SmRtFrEaks , 
  4. Veyron16.4 ,
     
  5. Dragonaxe , 
  6. sbst275 , 
  7. tranquilice ,
     
  8. service_238 , 
  9. bus555
  10. Y_Shun
  11. kengkia
  12. Fryderyk HPH
  13. sgbuses

  
  SMRT :

  1. Ajen ,
     
  2.  joeyfjj , 
  3. c751bLoVuR, 
     
  4. muziq bus , 
  5. mrtdude5 , 
  6. QX179R , 
  7. alstom metropolis , 
  8. Samuel Lee , 
  9. Kawac151
  10. smrt3099
  11. SBS7322B
  12. SBS7338G
  13. azharjj
  14. TIB1051D
  15. SMB66X
  16. leo2010agendas

  
  Prime Taxis :

   

  1. wenjie639

  
  FirstGroup PLC:

   

  1. TPS Timothy Mok
     

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  SMRT currently  wins with 16 votes

   

• Interception_7

  6 Sep 10, 09:43

  Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:

  . It is an open secret that Siemens is boosting up its Asian presence, having sold Desiro units to KTM in Malaysia and to SRT in Thailand.

   

  Please get your facts right first.

  The Desiro units are being used for another rail operator, that connects the Sentral Kuala Lumpur station to the Kuala Lumpur International Airport - not KTM.

  It is operated by ERL, Express Rail Link Sdn. Bhd, in which there are two service: KLIA Transit and KLIA Ekspres. Both of these two services shares the same line - only the KLIA Ekspres is a non-stop service between Sentral KL and KLIA.

  ERL is a standard gauge and electrified (by catenary wires) airport rail link in Malaysia. They run on maximum 160km/h.

• i_luv_erky

  6 Sep 10, 09:52

  actually is hoping for another new operator, not SMRT or SBS Transit (Comfort Delegro)
  but i dunno other transport companies names. I thought of TIBS, but now it's part of SMRT.

• leo2010agendas

  6 Sep 10, 10:22

  Me: Vote SMRT to operate DTL.

• SBS Transit and SMRT

  6 Sep 10, 11:59

  SBS Transit
  1) SBS Transit is the first rail operator to announce that they will be tendering for the Downtown MRT Line. (This may seem like an invalid reason, but it is true)
  2) SBS Transit needs more MRT lines to compete with SMRT Trains.
  3) SBS Transit can provide better bus rationalisation plans than SMRT Buses.

• TIB770T

  6 Sep 10, 12:55

  I go with SMRT because they have more experience in MRTs 

• EW26 Lakeside

  6 Sep 10, 14:10

  i rather vote SMRT. at least not annoying announcement like SBST NEL

• yellowflip999

  6 Sep 10, 14:15

  Neither/none, because this poll cannot even predict who will be the operator.

• littlearea

  6 Sep 10, 14:59

  I choose SMRT.

• lohkinwah

  6 Sep 10, 15:11

  if im nt wrong, the govt actually alternates the operator for all the new MRT lines,starting wif NEL (correct me if im wrong). so, NEL: sbs, CCL: smrt, DTL: sbs

• yellowflip999

  6 Sep 10, 15:36

  Originally posted by lohkinwah:

  if im nt wrong, the govt actually alternates the operator for all the new MRT lines,starting wif NEL (correct me if im wrong). so, NEL: sbs, CCL: smrt, DTL: sbs

   Well, judging by the looks of it, it were like alternates, then this poll wouldn't really have surfaced.

• CAIX

  6 Sep 10, 15:43

  LTA has mentioned a 3rd competitor company to operate transport services in competition to the existing duploy structure. But no details has been mentioned yet.

  However,

  SMRT may get because

  --> Main RTS operator which operates a small bus network

  --> Operating rail services since 1987

  --> More experiences

  SBS Transit may get because

  --> Main bus operator which operates a single RTS line, need more RTS line to balance

  --> Failed to obtain tender to operate Circle Line

   

  Finally my final vote still goes to SMRT =D

• Junyang700

  6 Sep 10, 15:49

  One funny trend I noticed...
  
  SBS Transit, though traditionally operating bus routes, has better trains... better seats and better frequencies than SMRT...
  
  Its bus routes are freaking long with many twists and turns in the neighbourhood areas...and bunching pretty often...
  
  While
  SMRT, though traditionally operating train routes, has better buses... and also more direct bus routes than SBS Transit....
  
  Its trains are usually cramped up to the maximum... and the seats aint comfortable...
  
  If you compare the seats on NEL and CCL... I would say NEL seats are more comfortable.

• alstom metropolis

  6 Sep 10, 17:35

  Originally posted by Junyang700:

  One funny trend I noticed...
  
  SBS Transit, though traditionally operating bus routes, has better trains... better seats and better frequencies than SMRT...
  
  Its bus routes are freaking long with many twists and turns in the neighbourhood areas...and bunching pretty often...
  
  While
  SMRT, though traditionally operating train routes, has better buses... and also more direct bus routes than SBS Transit....
  
  Its trains are usually cramped up to the maximum... and the seats aint comfortable...
  
  If you compare the seats on NEL and CCL... I would say NEL seats are more comfortable.

  After reading through all the posts,Three keywords come to my mind.
  1,Bidding     2,Major        3,Loss

• i_luv_erky

  6 Sep 10, 17:40

  Current Polling list:
  
  SBS    :

  1. Junyang700 ,
  2. i_luv_erky , 
  3. SmRtFrEaks , 
  4. Veyron16.4 ,
     
  5. Dragonaxe , 
  6. sbst275 , 
  7. tranquilice ,
     
  8. service_238 , 
  9. bus555
  10. Y_Shun
  11. kengkia
  12. Fryderyk HPH
  13. sgbuses
  14. SBS Transit and SMRT
  15. lohkinwah
  16. Apalis56

  
  SMRT :

  1. Ajen ,
     
  2.  joeyfjj , 
  3. c751bLoVuR, 
     
  4. muziq bus , 
  5. mrtdude5 , 
  6. QX179R , 
  7. alstom metropolis , 
  8. Samuel Lee , 
  9. Kawac151
  10. smrt3099
  11. SBS7322B
  12. SBS7338G
  13. azharjj
  14. TIB1051D
  15. SMB66X
  16. leo2010agendas
  17. TIB770T
  18. EW26 Lakeside
  19. littlearea
  20. CAIX

  
  Prime Taxis :

   

  1. wenjie639

  
  FirstGroup PLC:

   

  1. TPS Timothy Mok
     

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  SMRT currently  wins with 20 votes