Future MRT/LRT lines
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This is a future map i took from google:
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shown before and you are outdated
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You have posted 4 topics of the same post.
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As the link says, it's a http://www.jasonchua.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/speculativemrt.jpg system map.
Speculative: theoretical, rather than practical
(Source: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/speculative)
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even i not train fan I still seen this pic long ago...
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This map is definitely fake , the fonts are different.
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Originally posted by Bus and Train LoVuR:
This map is definitely fake , the fonts are different.
Its is very obviously fake, cos the person created himself. I remember him saying that this was his thinking of how it would be, means his own planning...
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I actually know who created this map. And there are also other people who make SPECULATIVE maps.
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People, I SERIOUSLY do not see a need for you all to complain, and insult kawac151 here in this topic...
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Wait, I know you guys like to bash such things as fake.
But I think it is REAL, but the working names might and will differs from actual one.
Currently, we have 118.9km of MRT lines excluding LRTs.
11km will be added with the opening of Dhoby Ghaut - Tai Seng in 17 Apr 2010.
The remaining of 19km, inclusive of Marina Bay Extension will be fully operational and added into our network of rails by 2012.
14km will be added with the opening of Tuas Extension in 2015.
40km will be added with the opening of Downtown Line in 2016 (Full Stage 1 to 3)
27km will be added with the opening of Thomson Line in 2018
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21km of rail length will be added with the opening of Eastern Region Line in 2020.
We will have a total of 250.9km of rail route.
Source: Wikipedia and Newspapers (For the fact of the distance between Dhoby Ghaut - Tai Seng is 11km)
So what about LRTs?
Sengkang -- 10.7km
Punggol (Phase 1, excluding Punggol North Line) -- 10.3km
Expected length for Punggol LRT (Including Punggol North Line which has not built as of 2010 and that belongs to Phase 2 of Punggol LRT) -- 11.8km (Source)
Bukit Panjang -- 7.8km
Total -- 28.8km (Excluding Punggol North), 30.3km (Including Punggol North LRT)
So Grand total of MRT / LRT tracks by 2020: 279.7km, 281.2km (If Punggol North LRT was built by 2020)
Remember, LTA did mentioned that by 2030, the Singapore Rapid Transit's length will have a coverage of 540km.
So 540km - 281.2km = 258.8km, which is about almost the other half of the network is still unbuilt. So I believe, it is more or less true, despite speculation.
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Originally posted by Samuel Lee:
Wait, I know you guys like to bash such things as fake.
But I think it is REAL, but the working names might and will differs from actual one.
Currently, we have 118.9km of MRT lines excluding LRTs.
11km will be added with the opening of Dhoby Ghaut - Tai Seng in 17 Apr 2010.
The remaining of 19km, inclusive of Marina Bay Extension will be fully operational and added into our network of rails by 2012.
14km will be added with the opening of Tuas Extension in 2015.
40km will be added with the opening of Downtown Line in 2016 (Full Stage 1 to 3)
27km will be added with the opening of Thomson Line in 2018
And
21km of rail length will be added with the opening of Eastern Region Line in 2020.
We will have a total of 250.9km of rail route.
Source: Wikipedia and Newspapers (For the fact of the distance between Dhoby Ghaut - Tai Seng is 11km)
So what about LRTs?
Sengkang -- 10.7km
Punggol (Phase 1, excluding Punggol North Line) -- 10.3km
Expected length for Punggol LRT (Including Punggol North Line which has not built as of 2010 and that belongs to Phase 2 of Punggol LRT) -- 11.8km (Source)
Bukit Panjang -- 7.8km
Total -- 28.8km (Excluding Punggol North), 30.3km (Including Punggol North LRT)
So Grand total of MRT / LRT tracks by 2020: 279.7km, 281.2km (If Punggol North LRT was built by 2020)
Remember, LTA did mentioned that by 2030, the Singapore Rapid Transit's length will have a coverage of 540km.
So 540km - 281.2km = 258.8km, which is about almost the other half of the network is still unbuilt. So I believe, it is more or less true, despite speculation.
"Johore Line" will never happen. Provisions in JB Sentral only allow (for a metro) the Maglev system to ply 2 routes in JB only.
West Coast LRT? Iirc LRT in Singapore is only meant to serve as a feeder within neighbourhoods. And it's pretty absurd to have one running from Pasir Panjang all the way up to near King Albert Park. BRT can do the job better. Same goes for Jurong Region LRT.
Holland Line will be difficult west of Bukit Batok. It has to run under military restricted areas. Do note that Merlimau, Seraya and Sakra are locations in Jurong Island.
Punggol North Line will only consist of 4 stations after Teck Lee.
And where in the world can you have East Point station? If the train moves forward after Terminal 4, it will become a submarine to Batam and Bintan.
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Duplicated post.
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Duplicated post.
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Originally posted by NickLim™:
"Johore Line" will never happen. Provisions in JB Sentral only allow (for a metro) the Maglev system to ply 2 routes in JB only.
West Coast LRT? Iirc LRT in Singapore is only meant to serve as a feeder within neighbourhoods. And it's pretty absurd to have one running from Pasir Panjang all the way up to near King Albert Park. BRT can do the job better. Same goes for Jurong Region LRT.
Holland Line will be difficult west of Bukit Batok. It has to run under military restricted areas. Do note that Merlimau, Seraya and Sakra are locations in Jurong Island.
Punggol North Line will only consist of 4 stations after Teck Lee.
And where in the world can you have East Point station? If the train moves forward after Terminal 4, it will become a submarine to Batam and Bintan.
Ok, well points said. So, afterall, certain parts have proven wrong speculations instead (Such as PN 5 and Johore MRT, well --- there are even people who believe that one day IF Malaysian authority allows, the Thomson Line will extend to JB -- based on the positioning of the line.)
Jurong Region LRT is the coming LRT line, which I expect to be launched at about similar timeframe as PN LRT, but that is not a fiction line.
And some others while looked absurd, one must be sure that North Coast / Shore Line plying between Woodlands (Sembawang) - Yishun - Seletar - Punggol - Changi (Airport) can never hit 30km landmark.
By integrating CC1 - CC4 into Holland Line (HDL), another line that was mentioned in Concept 2001, then the numbering should changed as well, and Promendae should be CC1 in this case, which is unlikely. (And I do not believe HDL can hit 35 ~ 40km milestone, which is something comparable to Downtown Line / North South Line)
Furthermore, another line mentioned in Concept 2001 is Seletar Line (Look @ Seletar Airport, the govt. is promoting civil aviviation and Seletar Airport is not only about military base) and some mention of the developments until 2018 or sort of. I think, that Seletar Line is a NEL reliever (As mentioned by netizens as well), so I estimate the line length ranges from 20km to 25km.
So 281.2km + 25km (Seletar Line) + 40km (Holland Line, based on the map, it seemed to be overstated) + 30km (North Shore / Coast Line) = 376.2km
There are some major errors and outdated information of this map, sure, but I think by 2030, the complexity should be there because there is still a lack of 163.8km, which can be given as 4 ~ 5 more LRT lines (Each about 10km ~ 15km) and the remaining 80 ~ 90km can in turn into 3 ~ 4 medium length lines.
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Originally posted by joeyfjj:
People, I SERIOUSLY do not see a need for you all to complain, and insult kawac151 here in this topic…
Nah.I don't mind. in fact, now that all of you mention it , it does look fake(since i found it in google,not create it.). -
Originally posted by NickLim™:
You have posted 4 topics of the same post.
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Originally posted by Kawac151:
Sorry. Had trouble posting this topic.You just need to click the post topic button once, that's all. :)
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it's probably gonna be an engineering feat if we are able to reproduce that map decades later
recently heard some anti-mrt complaints especially cuz of no more new long-distance bus routes (since mrt is slowly overtaking the bus network) and the depth of the newer stations (which is rumoured that any deeper will 'crack' the island apart)
are there provisions made at dhoby ghaut CCL side to extend the line further? it'll be quite a difficult engineering task if they dont make provisions...hope to see them at harbourfront next year too as proof that stage 6 might be realised
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Originally posted by Samuel Lee:
Jurong Region LRT is the coming LRT line, which I expect to be launched at about similar timeframe as PN LRT, but that is not a fiction line.
I thought they scrapped JR LRT????? Finally back on the drawing board? If its true I think its rather late of them to do so. I feel that the west is not served as well as the east to the central part of S'pore...
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Originally posted by SMRT 32373238:
I thought they scrapped JR LRT????? Finally back on the drawing board? If its true I think its rather late of them to do so. I feel that the west is not served as well as the east to the central part of S'pore...
Wait, they also scrapped Punggol North LRT line as well. Look, the LTA only said that they will not build any more LRT lines until some major developments on the urban areas or so. (Whatever they said, it means there is a condition to be met, before more LRT lines will be introduced.)
So, I think they are actually not scrapped Punggol North & JR LRT, but halted them for unknown time. (Dont PM me or LTA for the timeframe, because they wont know when will the areas there will be developed, considering JR LRT is also meant to serve the NTU students, the Jurong West until now, still quite ulu place.)
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Maybe, we should discussion on Future MRT / LRT lines V2 because:
1: This is outdated and contains some errors, which NickLim has pointed out.
2: The Tuas Extension, further up from Joo Koon is wrong. It should be the EW30 has an extension line, instead of EW31. The amount of stations is correct.
3: Whether will the "South Pier" station exists in future or not, I am not sure. But I am sure, that the LTA did planned but halted or scrapped the idea of extend the NSL to Marina South and further up to Marina Barrage, which requires a left U-Turn. (So now only Marina South extension by 2014, and add 1 station -- Marina South)
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Originally posted by NickLim™:
"Johore Line" will never happen. Provisions in JB Sentral only allow (for a metro) the Maglev system to ply 2 routes in JB only.
West Coast LRT? Iirc LRT in Singapore is only meant to serve as a feeder within neighbourhoods. And it's pretty absurd to have one running from Pasir Panjang all the way up to near King Albert Park. BRT can do the job better. Same goes for Jurong Region LRT.
Holland Line will be difficult west of Bukit Batok. It has to run under military restricted areas. Do note that Merlimau, Seraya and Sakra are locations in Jurong Island.
Punggol North Line will only consist of 4 stations after Teck Lee.
And where in the world can you have East Point station? If the train moves forward after Terminal 4, it will become a submarine to Batam and Bintan.
i have to disagree with you on the johore line that will never happen..and here is the proof:
http://www.iskandarmalaysia.com.my/news/100308/sultan-willing-to-mediate
so ti still remains a possaibility..not a confirmed rejected issue yet.
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Originally posted by Annilator47:
i have to disagree with you on the johore line that will never happen..and here is the proof:
http://www.iskandarmalaysia.com.my/news/100308/sultan-willing-to-mediate
so ti still remains a possaibility..not a confirmed rejected issue yet.
Johore Line as shown in the map is the proposed RapidJB Maglev LRT's Tebrau Line which is a fully elevated maglev system capable of a maximum speed of 80km/h, minus the JB Sentral - Causeway link.
You did not read the underlined sentence wrongly.
Anyway, an MRT will be impossible to connect to JB Sentral, the integrated transport and immigration hub since it will have to be underground. Then there's the issue of customs. Are you going to have it like the current Woodlands Train Checkpoint?
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Originally posted by Annilator47:
i have to disagree with you on the johore line that will never happen..and here is the proof:
http://www.iskandarmalaysia.com.my/news/100308/sultan-willing-to-mediate
so ti still remains a possaibility..not a confirmed rejected issue yet.
But it may happen, just not according to the speculative map.