man a time I am so sick and tired of riding an mrt train, then train stop suddenly and I and many passengers nearly fell or move forwards. I rememebered a train stop suddenly, start then stop, then start wtf. if the train needed to be stopped, stop it, but why then start then stop again zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
also when they stop suddenly and remained there for a good 1-2 mins on the track, the driver did not made an annoucement. I think SMRT should train its drivers to drive properly on the track and to make announcement where the train needed to remain there for a few mins. this is basic customer service.
Originally posted by Rooney9:man a time I am so sick and tired of riding an mrt train, then train stop suddenly and I and many passengers nearly fell or move forwards. I rememebered a train stop suddenly, start then stop, then start wtf. if the train needed to be stopped, stop it, but why then start then stop again zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
also when they stop suddenly and remained there for a good 1-2 mins on the track, the driver did not made an annoucement. I think SMRT should train its drivers to drive properly on the track and to make announcement where the train needed to remain there for a few mins. this is basic customer service.
It's the ATO fault. The train stops there to wait for the train infront to move off so that the signal clears.
Originally posted by willis_chong:It's the ATO fault. The train stops there to wait for the train infront to move off so that the signal clears.
but then it stop, then start then stop wtf.
north south line peak hours very congested, when train stop on track , likely means that theres a train at the next station that have not left yet, i think they don't want another "clementi incident" repeating again
SMRT's old trains also have structural faults. Today when I was on the EW line travelling to Jurong East, the train's doors had a cracking sound when above surface moving at 80km/h and then, the doors also seemed to be loose. The doors moved a few cm away and back from their positions when the train was moving fast and there was a bumping sound. SMRT's trains also so old and dirty, and their alighting area in the MRT stations like Outram park and Dhoby Ghaut interhcange are amongst the worse, so much dust unlike the SBS transit ones. SBS ALL THE WAY :D
Originally posted by Larryteo:SMRT's old trains also have structural faults. Today when I was on the EW line travelling to Jurong East, the train's doors had a cracking sound when above surface moving at 80km/h and then, the doors also seemed to be loose. The doors moved a few cm away and back from their positions when the train was moving fast and there was a bumping sound. SMRT's trains also so old and dirty, and their alighting area in the MRT stations like Outram park and Dhoby Ghaut interhcange are amongst the worse, so much dust unlike the SBS transit ones. SBS ALL THE WAY :D
It's just the air pressure causing the doors to pop in and out. By the way SMRT trains are around 24 years old already, whereas SBS Transit trains are less then 10 years old.
Originally posted by willis_chong:It's just the air pressure causing the doors to pop in and out. By the way SMRT trains are around 24 years old already, whereas SBS Transit trains are less then 10 years old.
SMRT trains are mostly 7 years old.
Originally posted by Larryteo:SMRT trains are mostly 7 years old.
most valuable fact of the day!
Originally posted by Larryteo:SMRT trains are mostly 7 years old.
1986 until now, count please.
Originally posted by Rooney9:man a time I am so sick and tired of riding an mrt train, then train stop suddenly and I and many passengers nearly fell or move forwards. I rememebered a train stop suddenly, start then stop, then start wtf. if the train needed to be stopped, stop it, but why then start then stop again zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
also when they stop suddenly and remained there for a good 1-2 mins on the track, the driver did not made an annoucement. I think SMRT should train its drivers to drive properly on the track and to make announcement where the train needed to remain there for a few mins. this is basic customer service.
sounds like AM mode. computer is a rigid driver when faced with changing speed control codes and a nearby train ahead.
Originally posted by Rooney9:but then it stop, then start then stop wtf.
cos the train in front did the same thing anyway it's the computer's act, the driver merely counter checks and monitors the progress of the train's journey.
Originally posted by Larryteo:SMRT trains are mostly 7 years old.
To be more specific, the C151s are 24 years old, the C651s are 16 years old and the C751Bs are 9 years old.
Originally posted by willis_chong:1986 until now, count please.
Sorry sorry, i typed wrongly! I meant SBS transit trains which started operation around 2003
Originally posted by sinicker:most valuable fact of the day!
Solly hor solly, I meant SBS trains, typed wrongly.
Originally posted by Larryteo:Solly hor solly, I meant SBS trains, typed wrongly.
What's the meaning of solly? Is it an English word? Wow! I have never heard of it before. Looks like I have to read more.....
Originally posted by Veyron16.4:To be more specific, the C151s are 24 years old, the C651s are 16 years old and the C751Bs are 9 years old.
Hmm the C151 (Series 0/100) are made from 1986 to 1989. Span of four years.
Siemens wise an absence of the builder's plate would abstain an actual age, but we do have 1994 as a gauge.
C751B (Series 300) also range from 1999 to 2001 if I am not mistaken.
Doors on our trains are called 'hanging type slide doors', means the mechanism to move the doors are entirely above, the sill below is for guiding. This is why you would see the door 'popping' in and out, air pressure and vibration can cause this.
For extra info, domestic commuter trains in Japan have disused hanging types for many years, due to accidents where passengers are crammed on a train, force exerted against the door caused the doors to pop open momentarily, and fatalities have occurred in the past due to this. Doors are totally built to integrate with the train frame for the subsequent designs, so the door is guarded by the larger door frame and are unable to pop outwards. For doors on the Shinkansen trains, there are gas operated pushers to push the door outwards against the door frame, so a relatively air tight environment can be achieved.
Originally posted by Rooney9:man a time I am so sick and tired of riding an mrt train, then train stop suddenly and I and many passengers nearly fell or move forwards. I rememebered a train stop suddenly, start then stop, then start wtf. if the train needed to be stopped, stop it, but why then start then stop again zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Classic back-to-back delay. There is a train ahead that behind schedule causing your train to back-up. ATO is designed for maximum acceleration then maximum deceleration.
Originally posted by TIB1224Y:For extra info, domestic commuter trains in Japan have disused hanging types for many years, due to accidents where passengers are crammed on a train, force exerted against the door caused the doors to pop open momentarily, and fatalities have occurred in the past due to this. Doors are totally built to integrate with the train frame for the subsequent designs, so the door is guarded by the larger door frame and are unable to pop outwards. For doors on the Shinkansen trains, there are gas operated pushers to push the door outwards against the door frame, so a relatively air tight environment can be achieved.
While for some reason, UK actually prefers a plug-door design.
Originally posted by ^tamago^:
cos the train in front did the same thing anyway it's the computer's act, the driver merely counter checks and monitors the progress of the train's journey.
then do away with the driver lar to save costs. since he is not driving the train.
Originally posted by Rooney9:
then do away with the driver lar to save costs. since he is not driving the train.
You want more Singaporeans to go jobless and then bitch about it here is it?
Originally posted by Larryteo:You want more Singaporeans to go jobless and then bitch about it here is it?
no SMRT pls hire mrt conductors
Originally posted by Rooney9:
no SMRT pls hire mrt conductors
They should fine those who don't give up their seats to those who need it and then put up arrogant faces instead. Much better.
Originally posted by willis_chong:It's the ATO fault. The train stops there to wait for the train infront to move off so that the signal clears.
whats ATO stands for? what does ATO do?
Sometimes the train need to change from AM mode to CM mode , so EMG brakes are applied.
Originally posted by Rooney9:whats ATO stands for? what does ATO do?
Automatic Train Operation.
Originally posted by Rooney9:. I rememebered a train stop suddenly, start then stop, then start wtf. if the train needed to be stopped, stop it, but why then start then stop again zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
also when they stop suddenly and remained there for a good 1-2 mins on the track, the driver did not made an annoucement.
If train A is the train in front,Train B is the train you were on,and train C was the one behind you,
1.B stopped Due to train congestion.
2.B moved because C was behind.It waited to allow the train A move so that B could have more "spacing"to move forward.