Originally posted by Interception_7:I think they replace with ICE better. Hahaha. Or better put Darjeeling Himalayan Railways :P
Put ICE hor, I think confirm derail at 300kmph... Somemore KTM no budget
Darjeeling Himalayan... You want 12 hour ride ah?
Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:Put ICE hor, I think confirm derail at 300kmph... Somemore KTM no budget
Darjeeling Himalayan... You want 12 hour ride ah?
Then all the ICE have to put speed caution.. ATP keep ringing all the way hahahaha.. must alert driver of speed regulations...
ok what 12 hour.. you go around the mountain.. lol!
seriously thinking, you think they all will be singing, " She'll be going round the mountain when she come.." hahaha
Originally posted by Interception_7:
Then all the ICE have to put speed caution.. ATP keep ringing all the way hahahaha.. must alert driver of speed regulations...
ok what 12 hour.. you go around the mountain.. lol!
seriously thinking, you think they all will be singing, " She'll be going round the mountain when she come.." hahaha
Cannot ICE lah...
If put ICE then dun stop at those small station, those rickety small stations, when the ICE fly past them at 300kmph the entire platform go boomz already lah
Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:Cannot ICE lah...
If put ICE then dun stop at those small station, those rickety small stations, when the ICE fly past them at 300kmph the entire platform go boomz already lah
hahaha boomz!
Originally posted by Call4ljw:Lengthing of train by 2 cabin is impossible.
Most of the stations have tracks that curve inward or slopes.
Only Boon Lay, buona vista and a few more stations can be expanded.
i agree with that also,lengthing the trains is impossible,due to 1 more important reason:
most underground stations do not have that luxary to cater for it, there are some rooms outside the platform for other functions,so to lengthen it would require to relocate the rooms and also in some areas worst still the tracks.note this suggestion is further more only applicable to NESW stations only.
Which is why whoever designed the station long ago definitely did not forsee this, which is a bad thing. On a side note, how you guys think of this;
- Release timetable of train departure at individual station on station and operator's website. Next, instead of showing estimated arrival time like 2 mins etc, show the exact departure time for the next 2 trains.
Pros: Commuters get to know at what time does the train depart from each station and plan their journey accordingly.
Cons: Nil
Constraint: Nil. It's just whether they wanna do it or not...
For some folks out there, you might think this might be unnecessary because "we are a Metro system and train arrives "so often" that it is not needed". Then there will be another group who will argue and say that "our train's timetable is not consistent and adjustment is made throughout the day to meet the commuter's demand etc etc".
To these group of people, think again, train timetable should not be changed every day to meet the demand of each day. Also, despite that our train arrive "so often", it's still better to put a exact time on the board to allow commuters to plan their commute. Lastly, if there's delay, operators can update the timetable to reflect the delay like;
Departure Time Destination Delays
18:19 Jurong East 1 minute due to congestion at Ang Mo Kio
18:22 Jurong East
For days where special timetable is implemented like new year eve etc, operators will inform commuters of the changes in timetable in the information board, website and display the timetable used for that day.
This is just my opinion, I mean no offence. However, if you find my points invalid or need clarification, just let me know. Cheers. =)
Originally posted by Call4ljw:To Fryderyk HPH & Interception_7
I know that platforms can be built on curves…but our MRT tracks are curved inwards “to join each other”. Maybe i wasn’t clear enough.
And regarding slopes, I do know that it can be done.
But i would not wish for it, imagine standing slanted on the platform while waiting for the train. That’s HORRIBLE!!!
I dont think they would want to create a curve platform though.. If not they would have plan abt it years back!
Just like the Kelana Jaya Line, in KL.. Ther platforms are built for 4 cars (or more? Nick can clarify?).. But they using 2 cars now.. Then they started to get 4 cars train.. I mean just stating how they can plan in the future ah..
Originally posted by Interception_7:Just like Ampang Line, in KL.. Ther platforms are built for 4 cars (or more? Nick can clarify?).. But they using 2 cars now.. Then they started to get 4 cars train.. I mean just stating how they can plan in the future ah..
Uh, I think you confused Ampang/Sri Petaling Line (STAR LRT) with Kelana Jaya Line (PUTRA LRT)?
For STAR LRT, platforms are capable of handling 3 cars, with each car articulated (6 cars to the untrained eye). Most trains now run with 3 cars with longer frequencies, unlike the past with 2 cars but more frequent service.
For PUTRA LRT, the plan was to originally have 4 cars per train but some communications stuff went wrong somewhere and they had 2 cars instead. The stations were left unchanged at 4-car length though. 4-car EMUs have arrived and are undergoing testing, which will ease peak hour congestion along the line next year. The EMUs fit the platforms and PSDs nicely.
Originally posted by NickL_C151:Uh, I think you confused Ampang/Sri Petaling Line (STAR LRT) with Kelana Jaya Line (PUTRA LRT)?
For STAR LRT, platforms are capable of handling 3 cars, with each car articulated (6 cars to the untrained eye). Most trains now run with 3 cars with longer frequencies, unlike the past with 2 cars but more frequent service.
For PUTRA LRT, the plan was to originally have 4 cars per train but some communications stuff went wrong somewhere and they had 2 cars instead. The stations were left unchanged at 4-car length though. 4-car EMUs have arrived and are undergoing testing, which will ease peak hour congestion along the line next year. The EMUs fit the platforms and PSDs nicely.
Ah yes, Kelana Jaya line, my apologies will re-edit that...
1. Install LCD TVs on all trains.
2. Increase the length of trains from 6 to 8 carriages.
3. Increase the frequency of the North East Line, especially during peak hours. It is always a 6 mins frequency.
4. Let the C830 have at least 6 carriages.
5. Change the design of the new Jurong East platform as passengers going Westbound will have to go to the concourse.
Also, when the train is arriving, we should have an announcement like:
The train to ____________________ (destination station) is arriving. Please let passengers alight first. Thank you.
Originally posted by Kawasaki C751B:Also, when the train is arriving, we should have an announcement like:
The train to ____________________ (destination station) is arriving. Please let passengers alight first. Thank you.
Copy hong kong...
Originally posted by Kawasaki C751B:1. Install LCD TVs on all trains.
2. Increase the length of trains from 6 to 8 carriages.
3. Increase the frequency of the North East Line, especially during peak hours. It is always a 6 mins frequency.
4. Let the C830 have at least 6 carriages.
5. Change the design of the new Jurong East platform as passengers going Westbound will have to go to the concourse.
1. Possible
2. Cannot. Stations cannot handle.
3. It is 4-3min during peak hour.
4. Cannot. Stations cannot handle.
5. ??
Originally posted by Kawasaki C751B:1. Install LCD TVs on all trains.
2. Increase the length of trains from 6 to 8 carriages.
3. Increase the frequency of the North East Line, especially during peak hours. It is always a 6 mins frequency.
4. Let the C830 have at least 6 carriages.
5. Change the design of the new Jurong East platform as passengers going Westbound will have to go to the concourse.
Extending from Wenjie, I think u meant for the 5th point is that you want the station like Punggol LRT where it is possible to build a middle track in between (That is for Punggol North LRT when it is built in future, but indefintely --- extracted from Wikipedia). This is not possible at all since it will really modify all 3 tracks and basically the entire station thanks to an existing middle platform where no place to stuff another track. (Such that it will be like 2 island platforms like usual station and the middle one like Dover / Fernvale or stations along Bukit Panjang LRT excluding Ten Mile Junction and Choa Chu Kang style)
I understand your point, but apart of works has begun, you can always wait for a train to come and cross over. (Slower lah, just like people use the train in the middle platform to cross over to the other platform, you do it twice in Jurong East)
The rationale is that from Jurong East to Joo Koon / Tuas's demand VS Jurong East to Pasir Ris / Changi Airport is significant. Even if there were space (Space is the first priority & constraint) for the platform to built next to Westbound, then more people is going to complain why not built the new platform in Eastbound side.
Originally posted by Kawasaki C751B:5. Change the design of the new Jurong East platform as passengers going Westbound will have to go to the concourse.
You mean...Add a bridge to Westbound Platform there ah?? Anyway I don't think can change already, work have started liao. Very ma fan if change plans again.
By the way, the fonts of the VFDs on the STARIS are not very appealing. It looks like some cheap China font and it is blue. I prefer the VPIS to STARIS.
Originally posted by Kawasaki C751B:1. Install LCD TVs on all trains.
2. Increase the length of trains from 6 to 8 carriages.
3. Increase the frequency of the North East Line, especially during peak hours. It is always a 6 mins frequency.
4. Let the C830 have at least 6 carriages.
5. Change the design of the new Jurong East platform as passengers going Westbound will have to go to the concourse.
it is way too late to change the length of the c830 trainsets already......
RFP really needs an urgent maintenance on its announcement system.
I was at RFP quite a few months ago, and 045-046 arrived. I thought it was a NB train, until the VFDs showed that "This train terminates at NS13 Yishun" I did not know that as there was no annoucement.
I was at RFP 1 month ago, and there was a LTE train at both the EB and NB platform. Yet, no announcement was played to tell me about this.
Car 3351 door A2 has a faulty set of DCWL. The problem has not been fixed for more than 2 months already.
Lastly, I hope that the violent doors problem on 097-098 and 323-324 will be fixed as soon as possible. I saw 097-098 having violent doors for almost half a year.
Originally posted by Kawasaki C751B:By the way, the fonts of the VFDs on the STARIS are not very appealing. It looks like some cheap China font and it is blue. I prefer the VPIS to STARIS.
Blue font is ok. Just that the font looks too angular. I would prefer if they used their LTA font or some other less angular fonts.
The chinese words are also too small. Too small for ppl with not-so-perfect eyesights.
They should also put the old announcements back.
What I could suggest is that SMRT can provide a JUR - YWT Shuttle in the morning peak hour similar to the current shuttles provided during the evening rush hour. What I observe that usually in the morning, trains arrive at Yew Tee at a frequency around 6 minutes. This will cause the platform to be full of passengers when the train arrives. As the train proceed further to CCK, Bukit Gombak and Bukit Batok, many passengers on these stations are unable to board the train as it already jam packed inside. Maybe this could help in easing up the load?
Just my 2 Cents thought.
Originally posted by dinierazin:What I could suggest is that SMRT can provide a JUR - YWT Shuttle in the morning peak hour similar to the current shuttles provided during the evening rush hour. What I observe that usually in the morning, trains arrive at Yew Tee at a frequency around 6 minutes. This will cause the platform to be full of passengers when the train arrives. As the train proceed further to CCK, Bukit Gombak and Bukit Batok, many passengers on these stations are unable to board the train as it already jam packed inside. Maybe this could help in easing up the load?
Just my 2 Cents thought.
The reason why there's a 6mins in morning rush hour lies in two reasons;
1. There's some train between 7am to 8.30am that will do a through service to EWL, which means that after that train crossover to EWL, there will be a "big gap" in between SB train.
2. In the morning peak and evening peak, NSL frequency is about 2mins between Marina Bay and Yishun. Almost every alternate train will terminate it's service at Yishun before performing turnaround at slidings. This means that between Yishun and Jurong East, frequency can range from 3mins to 6mins depending on timetabling.
I understand what you're trying to convey but to solve this problem, two things need to be done;
1. Since there's train crossing over from the NSL to EWL, make another train crossover from EWL to NSL to cover up for the "losses" (This sounds abit illogical) OR Input new train into service from UPD to cover up for the "losses"
2. Extend the Yew Tee and Yishun shuttle service from it's current station to Woodlands OR even better remove the shuttle service altogether.
Originally posted by Samuel Lee:Extending from Wenjie, I think u meant for the 5th point is that you want the station like Punggol LRT where it is possible to build a middle track in between (That is for Punggol North LRT when it is built in future, but indefintely --- extracted from Wikipedia). This is not possible at all since it will really modify all 3 tracks and basically the entire station thanks to an existing middle platform where no place to stuff another track. (Such that it will be like 2 island platforms like usual station and the middle one like Dover / Fernvale or stations along Bukit Panjang LRT excluding Ten Mile Junction and Choa Chu Kang style)
I understand your point, but apart of works has begun, you can always wait for a train to come and cross over. (Slower lah, just like people use the train in the middle platform to cross over to the other platform, you do it twice in Jurong East)
The rationale is that from Jurong East to Joo Koon / Tuas's demand VS Jurong East to Pasir Ris / Changi Airport is significant. Even if there were space (Space is the first priority & constraint) for the platform to built next to Westbound, then more people is going to complain why not built the new platform in Eastbound side.
The design of our station is already "screwed" from the start. This station implement one of the best design for changing from one line to another without much hassle.;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eCteHtuTLE
This is Shinjuku station at platform 15 and 16, which services;
Platform 15: Yamanote Line Outer Loop Bound for Ikebukuro and Ueno (11-cars)
Platform 16: Chuo Sobu Line Local Bound for Mitaka (10-cars)
In case you're wondering what's the musical chimes are in the stations, they are actually door closing chimes for the trains. Each platform has different music so you can't be wrong on which train is departing soon. Now for the on-topic stuffs.
Notice at the beginning and ending of the video that both train from different line depart and arrive at 30 seconds gap. This allows seamless transfer between the two line and this is what our Jurong East station should have been designed, since the current configuration uses up alot of land space. (And the timetabling too. It's sometimes irritating to see that the train you're transferring (NSL/EWL) to departs right after the train you're in opens it's door.)
On a side note, I am well aware that Raffles Place and City Hall implement such transfer system.
The RATIS on the Circle Line should have bigger fonts.