Enjoy shorter waiting time and more comfortable train rides
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Commuters to enjoy shorter waiting time and more comfortable train rides
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ok la.
give dem some credits. haha
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At least, SMRT is better than SBS Transit.
SBS Transit should increase the frequency for its NEL and reduce the waiting time to 2 minutes as low during morning peak period. Most of time, the waiting time between trains during morning peak period is always 4 minutes or more. Some people at Boon Keng, Farrer Park and Little India waiting to board train, will have some difficult to get into crowded train on Harbourfront-bound. No good.
That's why I love SMRT and give them thumb up.
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Heck
The lunch time additional trips aren't full trips, they're short working trips
Ang Mo Kio <-> Marina Bay, Aljunied <-> Outram Park
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Originally posted by Novawin™:
At least, SMRT is better than SBS Transit.
SBS Transit should increase the frequency for its NEL and reduce the waiting time to 2 minutes as low during morning peak period. Most of time, the waiting time between trains during morning peak period is always 4 minutes or more. Some people at Boon Keng, Farrer Park and Little India waiting to board train, will have some difficult to get into crowded train on Harbourfront-bound. No good.
That's why I love SMRT and give them thumb up.
Please tell me you are joking. Have you ever taken MRT at Boon Lay mrt station? Taken mrt at 10 pm on weekdays and see the "wonderful" frequency and crowd on the trains? Have you ever taken mrt from Yishun to Jurong East direction in peak hours?
Trust me, they are a lot of worse than SBST.
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Originally posted by Airbus330Captain:
Please tell me you are joking. Have you ever taken MRT at Boon Lay mrt station? Taken mrt at 10 pm on weekdays and see the "wonderful" frequency and crowd on the trains? Have you ever taken mrt from Yishun to Jurong East direction in peak hours?
Trust me, they are a lot of worse than SBST.
Why should I be joking? What can you expect more from SMRT?
You have to understand that Singapore population is like "exploding" in the way that more crowd is expected in SMRT train that some people will have difficulty of boarding and getting into crowded train.SMRT is working very hard to increase frequency by bring in more train trips.
If you are not satisfied with SMRT service on Boon Lay MRT situation, you just give them feedback. -
SBST is better in managing buses while SMRT is better in managing trains. So its fair.
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Originally posted by SBS2695H:
SBST is better in managing buses while SMRT is better in managing trains. So its fair.
Agreed. At least SMRT has tried their best to improve train service by reducing waiting time and adding more train trips. Why SBST cannot do the same thing for its NEL train service?
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Originally posted by Novawin™:
Why should I be joking? What can you expect more from SMRT?
You have to understand that Singapore population is like "exploding" in the way that more crowd is expected in SMRT train that some people will have difficulty of boarding and getting into crowded train.SMRT is working very hard to increase frequency by bring in more train trips.
If you are not satisfied with SMRT service on Boon Lay MRT situation, you just give them feedback.
eh... if you can say ppl at Little India has prob boarding... I can say Somerset is worst... door open, immediately buzzer would sound up, many are totally unable to board during peak hrsOr say City Hall... even 3 trains cannot board, once SMRT staff made announcement asking ppl not to squeeze as there's train at Raffles Place (I dunno but seriously it's on a Weekday, lots of ppl working at Raffles Place going home)
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Originally posted by sbst275:
Heck
The lunch time additional trips aren't full trips, they're short working trips
Ang Mo Kio <-> Marina Bay, Aljunied <-> Outram Park
At least they did something to rectify the lunch crowds along the city stretches.One should know that most of the working pop. lies in the city area, and to introduce SWT between AMK and MRB would be enough.
I wonder which worker would take a train to Jurong just for his lunch?
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Originally posted by Airbus330Captain:
Please tell me you are joking. Have you ever taken MRT at Boon Lay mrt station? Taken mrt at 10 pm on weekdays and see the "wonderful" frequency and crowd on the trains? Have you ever taken mrt from Yishun to Jurong East direction in peak hours?
Trust me, they are a lot of worse than SBST.
Charles, please tell me you're joking too. SMRT is already trying every possible way to improve on its frequency. They could have just sat down and watch people squeeze, but then, why did they introduce 700 train trips per week during lunchtime and peak hours?
At least they did something. Not as if they did nothing. It's very similar to your thread on the OC500LE posters & advertisements. They did something, not nothing. Even if it did not work out well enough, the fact is they DID SOMETHING.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
eh... if you can say ppl at Little India has prob boarding... I can say Somerset is worst... door open, immediately buzzer would sound up, many are totally unable to board during peak hrsOr say City Hall... even 3 trains cannot board, once SMRT staff made announcement asking ppl not to squeeze as there's train at Raffles Place (I dunno but seriously it's on a Weekday, lots of ppl working at Raffles Place going home)
Sorry. Next week SMRT will start asking all TOs to leave their doors open for 5 minutes to let people board.Let's just say that, the faster the train clears the station, the more fluctuated the train system becomes. You want a train to wait at a station for 1 minute during peak hour, and jam the rest behind? After all, people want more trips, SMRT add liao, but then they need to balance off with stopover time at the stations. There is no such thing as everything you want. Even if they sound buzzer immediately, they can't close the doors if people are boarding, right?
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Originally posted by SBS2695H:
SBST is better in managing buses while SMRT is better in managing trains. So its fair.
Like what carbikebus said, SBST NEL personnel and Sentosa's Monorail systems all consult SMRT Corporation on courses and heavy maintanence on trains.It may seem unbelievable to some people who are anti-SMRT (Not just anti-SPH, but they choose to generalise and anti the whole SMRT Corp). But it's time we smack the truth on their faces.
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Dun blame for the pack trains during peak hour. Find out how many 'FT' from a east asia country are living in Sg first. I give my own guess --------> 900,000
Minus this figures and you will be able to board any trains during peak hours and may even get a seat.
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Originally posted by Oceane:
At least they did something to rectify the lunch crowds along the city stretches.One should know that most of the working pop. lies in the city area, and to introduce SWT between AMK and MRB would be enough.
I wonder which worker would take a train to Jurong just for his lunch?
The EWL one for sure 1st few days dua luan -
Originally posted by Oceane:
Sorry. Next week SMRT will start asking all TOs to leave their doors open for 5 minutes to let people board.Let's just say that, the faster the train clears the station, the more fluctuated the train system becomes. You want a train to wait at a station for 1 minute during peak hour, and jam the rest behind? After all, people want more trips, SMRT add liao, but then they need to balance off with stopover time at the stations. There is no such thing as everything you want. Even if they sound buzzer immediately, they can't close the doors if people are boarding, right?
I've said tis bef long time ago abt the crap of sounding e buzzer immediately after the door open.. so end up should e commuter even bother abt boarding when ppl haven't even alight buzzer is alrdy sounded...Let me say tis and I hope tis would never occur - stampede because one just goes panic and starts pushing
sorry tat's e operator prob, passenger's safety over this buzzer comes 1st
anyway carry on like tis, only commuters lugi
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Originally posted by sbst275:
I've said tis bef long time ago abt the crap of sounding e buzzer immediately after the door open.. so end up should e commuter even bother abt boarding when ppl haven't even alight buzzer is alrdy sounded...Let me say tis and I hope tis would never occur - stampede because one just goes panic and starts pushing
sorry tat's e operator prob, passenger's safety over this buzzer comes 1st
anyway carry on like tis, only commuters lugi
Whatever it is, the minimal stopover time is 15 seconds. TO cannot depart earlier than 15 seconds unless under special circumstances (like train breakdown that causes whole system to haywire).Speaking of buzzer, the edited announcements system has a very fast buzzer. Compared to the previous version this one is quicker by around 1.5 seconds.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
The EWL one for sure 1st few days dua luan
Hopefully not... SMRT places SWT by the radius of the areas that the lunch croud would most likely go to... no point starting SWTs in far away places like Boon Lay because it would be a waste of resources.Which means commuters that travel between Aljunied and Outram Park will get to enjoy half the previous waiting time.
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Originally posted by Oceane:
Whatever it is, the minimal stopover time is 15 seconds. TO cannot depart earlier than 15 seconds unless under special circumstances (like train breakdown that causes whole system to haywire).Speaking of buzzer, the edited announcements system has a very fast buzzer. Compared to the previous version this one is quicker by around 1.5 seconds.
meainng to say, there's no biz for him or her to sound e buzzer immediately.... but it's a daily affair cos very simple, you can anything you like but dun get caught like something bad happenedsimply to say, it's like 'no govt'
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i know wrong forum but must say that SMRT should rectify their buses as what they had did for their trains, btw, NEL frequrency was bad
To Pongool
Next train:10 minutes
Subsequent train: 20 minutes
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I think they should have a 90 sec. freq all day round.
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Thing is, you need to look at demand and supply, and I think SBST is better in handling this
Yes some people can't board from Boon Keng and below, but at least its better than having people from AMK and below not being able to board for several trains. Try waiting for a train at Toa Payoh (the first satellite town along NSL) and Serangoon (First Satellite town along NEL) at 8:00am and you'll see the difference.
And the difference gets larger for evening peak and off peak. SMRT needs to know that its system has more people patronising per station on average than NEL. This means that the 7 mins (which can jump to 10 at times) frequency it has for off peak is simply pathetic. SBST has a 6 mins (which can jump to 7) frequency even during off peak. And there is always space to move around (and even find a seat during off peak) in SBST's trains during off peak and evening peak. And SBST also have crowd controllers at busier stops advising people to go to the end cars, while SMRT don't even have a single staff at the platform doing this (Transit security does nothing like such), not to say that even the end cars are packed during evening peak, nights and Saturdays and Sundays at least between Eunos and Clementi/Jurong East, AMK and City.
It used to be possible to find a lot of seats on NSL and EWL on Saturdays and Sundays, but its almost impossible unless you are on CGL or at/near the terminating stops.
SMRT under SPH makes the 90 sec frequency of 2000 and before look like an antiquated idea. SMRT has a very good cost savings scheme indeed, basic dd and ss management all haywire, econs ideas all thrown away, just left business ideas.
If you are really giving a more comfortable ride, provide a first class car (like what HK's ex-KCR/MTR East Rail has) and have first class seats inside. For the record its quite well used by HKers who are unwilling to squeeze with the Mainlanders (which is quite useful for Boon Lay).
Do note that I am a frequent rider of both systems.
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Originally posted by Oceane:
Hopefully not... SMRT places SWT by the radius of the areas that the lunch croud would most likely go to... no point starting SWTs in far away places like Boon Lay because it would be a waste of resources.Which means commuters that travel between Aljunied and Outram Park will get to enjoy half the previous waiting time.
dun forget at tis lunch hr it isn't just ppl travelling around CBD or fringe areaThese fringe area MRT stations got to take up e load of ppl who happened to take e SWT train.
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Originally posted by SBS2695H:
I think they should have a 90 sec. freq all day round.
When it was under MRT Corp, trains were running at 90sec freq. Things change and now they are running at 7mins freq. -
In the morning, try taking the NEL then you transfer to the EWL. You can see whole lot of difference.
Yes, SMRT did try to do something.. More train trips ?? i do agree theres more. BUT....
Before :
@ BB Stn during Evening Peak
6mins Freq
Now :
@ BB Stn During Evening Peak
7mins - Marina Bay
4mins - Yew Tee
7mins - Marina BayMany times, there is no way that you are able to board the 1st train bound for marina bay. Usually u have to wait for a few trains before u can board. So, by adding in more trains that are doing SWT, does it actually help a communter ? I would say no as majority of the ppl are travelling beyond YT (from BB that is). They use to have SWT that ends at AMK. Not now.. Instead of helping communters to enjoy a more "comfortable" ride, it actually makes communters suffer even more.