7 November 2007
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20 years ago, the MRT started frm YCK to TAP.
So we celebrate SMRT 20th birthday.
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If you ask me, there is nothing to celebrate SMRT's mediocre service.
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For Sg such a small place and low ridership, it's not easy to operate and maintain such a large subway system. So it's unfair to say that SMRT's service is mediocre.Originally posted by Airbus330Captain:If you ask me, there is nothing to celebrate SMRT's mediocre service.
All in all, we should celebrate it. -
Are you kidding me ? If other countries can maintain their train system well, why can't SMRT ? Look at the tube system in London and the MTR in HK. Low ridership? Please tell me you are kidding with me. Have you ever taken MRT during peak hours? Have you taken MRT from yishun to sembawang when some of the trains terminate at Yishun ? Bullcrap !Originally posted by C751B:For Sg such a small place and low ridership, it's not easy to operate and maintain such a large subway system. So it's unfair to say that SMRT's service is mediocre.
All in all, we should celebrate it. -
A day to remember is a more suitable word ba?
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Nothing to celebrate with today's state
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celebrate what?
celebrate the success of the canning of human sardines? -
haha.
ok la people, at least a round of a applause la.
if dun have them den i think u all die liao.
just clap, serious
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celebrate what?
celebrate SMRT eat our $$$... if that's the reason to celebrate, i think SMRT should be the one celebrating... -
If today no MRT
Our roads will be packed with cars and that would speed up GLOBAL WARMING! Serious! And SBS will have a hard time maintaining and there would be around 7,000 plus SBS Buses today if there is no MRT. -
10th anniversary and 20th anniversary had very different memories for all of us.
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Originally posted by tintinspartan:
Yeah la
If today no MRT Our roads will be packed with cars and that would speed up [b]GLOBAL WARMING! Serious! And SBS will have a hard time maintaining and there would be around 7,000 plus SBS Buses today if there is no MRT.[/b]
But end of the day, public tpt now is an integration of mainly buses, MRT and LRT.
MRT serves the main corridor, so service standard gotta be better
Buses is sort of allowing direct trips or for feeder -
Back then it was a stat board, profit was never in the mindOriginally posted by ^tamago^:10th anniversary and 20th anniversary had very different memories for all of us. -
Originally posted by tintinspartan:
if you so scared of global warming, wear a leaf as your briefs.
If today no MRT Our roads will be packed with cars and that would speed up [b]GLOBAL WARMING! Serious! And SBS will have a hard time maintaining and there would be around 7,000 plus SBS Buses today if there is no MRT.[/b]
do you need explanation why i'm saying this? do you need me to relate how your briefs get to you from production time?
i hope not coz' my hands are itching for an essay! -
And back then everyone was gungho about providing good transport under the White Paper. Now is like shit.Originally posted by sbst275:Back then it was a stat board, profit was never in the mind
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The gov'ts in other countries usually subsidize a lot for their subway systems directly or indirectly, but SMRT isn't treated the same. "Limited" fund (comparing to other systems) results in much limited service to be provided.Originally posted by Airbus330Captain:Are you kidding me ? If other countries can maintain their train system well, why can't SMRT ? Look at the tube system in London and the MTR in HK. Low ridership? Please tell me you are kidding with me. Have you ever taken MRT during peak hours? Have you taken MRT from yishun to sembawang when some of the trains terminate at Yishun ? Bullcrap !
I'm not discontented with this...
Ridership isn't that high indeed, and I would consider that the major problem
is the capacity of the existing MRT system cannot meet the Sg's development nowadays.
If they can add one more car to each stock, the situation could be different.
And I expect that CCL would be much worse since they only have 3 cars a stock...
It is not SMRT's fault, but the problem of RTS master plan...
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other countries maintain their trains better? singapore's is one of the cleanest around already. YES i take the peak hour trains all the time. Since when did SMRT have a low ridership problem? They are the ones keeping empty stations like marina bay open and not complaining about it... The trains terminate at Yishun because that is where a large number of people travel up to and they have to move the crowds away from the city asap. just imagine if SMRT sends all their peak hour trains all the way to Jurong... waiting time increases to 4 mins, city stations get overcrowded, people like u start crapping up a different complaint. and if SMRT cant maintain their trains well, their batch of 10 and 11-year old trains wont be in existence any more. if u really dont appreciate the kind of trains we have then get a car and contribute to global warming. Bull your crap !Originally posted by Airbus330Captain:Are you kidding me ? If other countries can maintain their train system well, why can't SMRT ? Look at the tube system in London and the MTR in HK. Low ridership? Please tell me you are kidding with me. Have you ever taken MRT during peak hours? Have you taken MRT from yishun to sembawang when some of the trains terminate at Yishun ? Bullcrap ! -
agreed.Originally posted by SMRT 32373238:other countries maintain their trains better? singapore's is one of the cleanest around already. YES i take the peak hour trains all the time. Since when did SMRT have a low ridership problem? They are the ones keeping empty stations like marina bay open and not complaining about it... The trains terminate at Yishun because that is where a large number of people travel up to and they have to move the crowds away from the city asap. just imagine if SMRT sends all their peak hour trains all the way to Jurong... waiting time increases to 4 mins, city stations get overcrowded, people like u start crapping up a different complaint. and if SMRT cant maintain their trains well, their batch of 10 and 11-year old trains wont be in existence any more. if u really dont appreciate the kind of trains we have then get a car and contribute to global warming. Bull your crap !
my fren he went to new york and took their underground train and he was cursing and swearing because it was quite dirty and undermaintained. he said singaporeans shld feel lucky. while i agree that much improvement are needed for SMRT's services, lets not bash up what they have done over the years. -
You go see MTROriginally posted by SMRT 32373238:other countries maintain their trains better? singapore's is one of the cleanest around already. YES i take the peak hour trains all the time. Since when did SMRT have a low ridership problem? They are the ones keeping empty stations like marina bay open and not complaining about it... The trains terminate at Yishun because that is where a large number of people travel up to and they have to move the crowds away from the city asap. just imagine if SMRT sends all their peak hour trains all the way to Jurong... waiting time increases to 4 mins, city stations get overcrowded, people like u start crapping up a different complaint. and if SMRT cant maintain their trains well, their batch of 10 and 11-year old trains wont be in existence any more. if u really dont appreciate the kind of trains we have then get a car and contribute to global warming. Bull your crap !
Actually MTR service freq and everything beats SMRT way down
The thing is, wat was built up over the years are slowly being destroyed -
Friend, just because you founded the Bus forums and the Planes forums doesn't mean you can come here and insult SMRT.Originally posted by Airbus330Captain:Are you kidding me ? If other countries can maintain their train system well, why can't SMRT ? Look at the tube system in London and the MTR in HK. Low ridership? Please tell me you are kidding with me. Have you ever taken MRT during peak hours? Have you taken MRT from yishun to sembawang when some of the trains terminate at Yishun ? Bullcrap !
SMRT did poorly for it's buses. We all KNOW THAT.
Trains terminate at Yishun to turnaround to supplement the peak hour crowds at the CBD. If trains DO NOT terminate, you go imagine what happens to the CBD area. Get that into your head. Trains turnaround at Yishun to supplement the peak hour crowds, not to turnaround for FUN.
If you live in Sembawang and beyond, you have 2 choices:
1. Get your arse out of the train at Yishun and wait for the next train which is towards JE.
OR
2. Wait for a JE-bound train to come and board it, and go all the way to your destination.
Please get your facts right before you start giving bullcrap stories on how SMRT did not maintain it's trains.
For 1, SMRT has the cleanest trains I've ever seen. Compare them to Malaysia's KTM railway trains and from Indonesia, China etc., SMRT does cleaning of it's trains regularly.
2. If SMRT does not want to refurbish it's trains, do you still wanna take a old and filthy, with leaking air-con C151s?
You may know more of buses and planes than me, but I know more of trains than you. So please get your facts right before you say anything. If you have any queries, you can approach Manager433 who works at SMRT. He's even more "pro" than me. -
SMRT isn't fantastic in how they maintain the MRT system, but at least its better than alot of other countries. many singaporeans complain bcos they don't know how things are like overseas, so to them SMRT is bad. not siding SMRT or anything, but people should appreciate that at least got an MRT system in the first place.Originally posted by Oceane:Friend, just because you founded the Bus forums and the Planes forums doesn't mean you can come here and insult SMRT.
SMRT did poorly for it's buses. We all KNOW THAT.
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You may know more of buses and planes than me, but I know more of trains than you. So please get your facts right before you say anything. If you have any queries, you can approach Manager433 who works at SMRT. He's even more "pro" than me.
to Oceane: what u said abt is not wrong, but bear in mind that you're talking to a senior member. if you've been here long enough u will know the kind of troubles between senior members and newcomers, and that it doesnt pay to talk back to a senior member. heard abt the story of xiong chen or the story of SGEMP/ STN? or how tintinspartan keep getting kachiao by the seniors. if u dig the archives u can see the kind of flame wars between newcomers like them and the seniors. so dont talk back to them, its not worth it seriously. -
you're comparing apples and oranges alrdyOriginally posted by Oceane:Friend, just because you founded the Bus forums and the Planes forums doesn't mean you can come here and insult SMRT.
SMRT did poorly for it's buses. We all KNOW THAT.
Trains terminate at Yishun to turnaround to supplement the peak hour crowds at the CBD. If trains DO NOT terminate, you go imagine what happens to the CBD area. Get that into your head. Trains turnaround at Yishun to supplement the peak hour crowds, not to turnaround for FUN.
If you live in Sembawang and beyond, you have 2 choices:
1. Get your arse out of the train at Yishun and wait for the next train which is towards JE.
OR
2. Wait for a JE-bound train to come and board it, and go all the w
ay to your destination.
Please get your facts right before you start giving bullcrap stories on how SMRT did not maintain it's trains.
For 1, SMRT has the cleanest trains I've ever seen. Compare them to Malaysia's KTM railway trains and from Indonesia, China etc., SMRT does cleaning of it's trains regularly.
2. If SMRT does not want to refurbish it's trains, do you still wanna take a old and filthy, with leaking air-con C151s?
You may know more of buses and planes than me, but I know more of trains than you. So please get your facts right before you say anything. If you have any queries, you can approach Manager433 who works at SMRT. He's even more "pro" than me.
KTM runs state - state train services, SMRT is running city metro
Another thing, you wanna comparre, is to compare with other cities like HK
These sort of comparison to put it bluntly only just make us to feel we're on top of other developed cities when in reality we are eating other ppl's dust in service standards -
Originally posted by Oceane:
pro-SMRT as you can be. big, successful organisations still have their flaws.
face it.
3yrs and i see everything. it's disgusting, really. -
wonder when will smrt change their train....to a faster one..
