Guide for the following heroes..
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and again, u say 3 secs enuff for ure team to rape the enemy, u think the enemy 1v5 ar? he no team also ar? Though i admit Lina has her "ultimate" skill for a reason which increases her attack speed by quite a bit, but a int hero like lina choosing to play whacking style? Not very feasible to me..Originally posted by skyfoo:come on la, u lina want to solo meh? hex 3s is enuff for ur team to gang a pro. and if vs a str hero, one-on-one, with guinsoo or spec also lose. but with spec, u might got more hp and mana, but got use? can help u escape? with guinsoo, u got 3s hex and u can run for 3s. and only a few heroes can outrun u lagging 3s. why so dumb hex liao still go whack? like u say play against rk and tide, u got spector got what use? stun, dragon whack and ult? u think they will die izzit? dream on la. and do u know why lina has her first skill for? it's for late game. the IAS is extremely useful if u get a skadi. fast AS + slow is terrifying. in addition, ur hex will be useful for even more hits. and last thing, have u seen a pro int hero with only int items in late game?
Lina's First skill? Dragon slave? Late game?
Lol, u think everybody need to follow ure playing style ar? Pls la.. Lina may have the extra advantage over hits, but at the end of the day its more of her skills which she require on, not her hits, her skills are made for fast-deadly 1 hit KO.
Not all INT-Whacking style heroes own u know, u got to know how to play them well first..
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Lina early/mid game is killer while late game is more support with eul/guinsoo, and the area stun late game must pump the skill 'ultimate' or else 3 spells might be useless against some centaur/rk/slardar or if maybe they get bkb or is Naix/repel
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I STILL DUNNO WHAT IS A SPEC... IZZIT AGAHINIM SCEPTER? I DUN BOPTHER BUYING THIS SHI T FOR LINA, ABSOULTELY NO USE. AND ABT GUINSOO FOR LINA, ITS ABSOULTELY GD TO BUY THAT FOR HER, U CAN PLAY BATTLE MAGE BUT ITS NOT VERY FEASBILE ON HER EVEN WHEN HER SKILL 'ULTI' IS ACTIVATED. LATE GAMERS LIKE NAIX, PA OR SVEN WOULD DESTROY U EVEN U HAVE DIVINE. GUINSOO IS GOOD TO KILL IMPT ENEMIES IN THEIR TEAM LIKE LIGHTNING, NAIX OR PA, DISABLE THEM AND AIM THEM 1ST COZ THEY WILL BE A SNEAKY BASTARD AND KEEP WHACKING U UNTIL U DIE AND U DIDNT EVEN REALISE IT
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my apology, it's ultimate i'm trying to point out.Originally posted by gLc:and again, u say 3 secs enuff for ure team to rape the enemy, u think the enemy 1v5 ar? he no team also ar? Though i admit Lina has her "ultimate" skill for a reason which increases her attack speed by quite a bit, but a int hero like lina choosing to play whacking style? Not very feasible to me..
Lina's First skill? Dragon slave? Late game?
Lol, u think everybody need to follow ure playing style ar? Pls la.. Lina may have the extra advantage over hits, but at the end of the day its more of her skills which she require on, not her hits, her skills are made for fast-deadly 1 hit KO.
Not all INT-Whacking style heroes own u know, u got to know how to play them well first..
well, if u think u can survive in late game with spells, good luck to u lor. u pro lor. -
I believe every hero needs HP to play,
its back to basics,
intell heros get soul booster for MP n HP then stuffs to rege MP fast,
as in earlier game spammers ought to so-call-control med/late game heros,
to me if spammers at very earlier game cant spam well at opponents med/late game heros,then as the game goes by,these intell heros will 1 by 1 become food for the opponents med/late game heros.
As agli. heros get HP in earlier game to last a longer farming time out there,
cause I dont know y some ppl perfer to make yasha then sange 1st when they wana get a SNY.
YES,yasha gives u slightly increase damage cos u're a agli. hero cum more increase att. n movement spd but that means ur hp is low n if u got ur yasha 1st, meaning opponent heros xpecially spammer ones will ardy been in a high lvl to spam u even more n even painer.
So sanger 1st rather then yasha will b a better choice for me if making of SNY.
As for str heros,basic items ought to b str n HP rege stuffs,as they hav 2 b the tanker for the team.
YES,some str heros will hav a slightly increase HP even if u nv
get any str items.
But dont take tat for granted,as u may hav a slightly HP in earlier game does
not mean med/late game ur HP is still higher.
So its still back to basics after all.
Tats hw I feel for he game. -
U FEEL THE WRONG WAY. STR HERO LIKE SLADAR OR NS ARE MEANT TO BE KILLER HEROES AND BUYING SATANIC+HYPERSTONE+BASHER WILL BE VERY GOOD FOR THEM INSTEAD OF GETTING 4 HOT, 1 AEGIS AND 1 BOT WHICH WILL BE USELESS EXCEPT TANKING. I DUN REALLY AGREE GETTING SOUL BOOSTER ON AGI HEROES COZ THEY R MEANT TO BE HERO KILLERS AND SANGE WOULD BE DAMN GD FOR THJEM COZ OF THE OGRE AXE(+10STR), VERY USEFUL AND CAN OSO MAIM PEOPLE.Originally posted by a-Lost-9uY:I believe every hero needs HP to play,
its back to basics,
intell heros get soul booster for MP n HP then stuffs to rege MP fast,
as in earlier game spammers ought to so-call-control med/late game heros,
to me if spammers at very earlier game cant spam well at opponents med/late game heros,then as the game goes by,these intell heros will 1 by 1 become food for the opponents med/late game heros.
As agli. heros get HP in earlier game to last a longer farming time out there,
cause I dont know y some ppl perfer to make yasha then sange 1st when they wana get a SNY.
YES,yasha gives u slightly increase damage cos u're a agli. hero cum more increase att. n movement spd but that means ur hp is low n if u got ur yasha 1st, meaning opponent heros xpecially spammer ones will ardy been in a high lvl to spam u even more n even painer.
So sanger 1st rather then yasha will b a better choice for me if making of SNY.
As for str heros,basic items ought to b str n HP rege stuffs,as they hav 2 b the tanker for the team.
YES,some str heros will hav a slightly increase HP even if u nv
get any str items.
But dont take tat for granted,as u may hav a slightly HP in earlier game does
not mean med/late game ur HP is still higher.
So its still back to basics after all.
Tats hw I feel for he game.
INT HEROES DUN NECESSARY NEED TO GET SOUL BOOSTER, SOMETIMES U CAN GET HOT WHICH IS VERY GOOD -
May I know did u read wrongly?Originally posted by forum_dude:U FEEL THE WRONG WAY. STR HERO LIKE SLADAR OR NS ARE MEANT TO BE KILLER HEROES AND BUYING SATANIC+HYPERSTONE+BASHER WILL BE VERY GOOD FOR THEM INSTEAD OF GETTING 4 HOT, 1 AEGIS AND 1 BOT WHICH WILL BE USELESS EXCEPT TANKING. I DUN REALLY AGREE GETTING SOUL BOOSTER ON AGI HEROES COZ THEY R MEANT TO BE HERO KILLERS AND SANGE WOULD BE DAMN GD FOR THJEM COZ OF THE OGRE AXE(+10STR), VERY USEFUL AND CAN OSO MAIM PEOPLE.
INT HEROES DUN NECESSARY NEED TO GET SOUL BOOSTER, SOMETIMES U CAN GET HOT WHICH IS VERY GOOD
when did i said "GETTING SOUL BOOSTER ON AGI HEROES",
if u wana say tat, y not u go try using Luna n buy SNY n c wat happens.
so inorder to hav both higher HP n MP,soul booster will b a perfect option for Luna or mayb a linker.
As diff ppl diff style.
Nx i nv said str heros must hav 4HOT,
YES they need hero killers items such as basher(as u hav said).
but then having higher HP is still their major pt.
N if i nv c wrong u said "SATANIC" rite?
so may i ask hw do u build tat? need a reaver rite?
so lets c, reaver gives 32*19=608 increased in HP(If im not wrong),
so in this figure proven u also care abt having a higher HP,
so I believe my pt is correct.
Furthermore u said "SLADAR OR NS ARE MEANT TO BE KILLER HEROES",
YEAH i agreed wif tat.
But having a higher HP is still the best for both of them,
as for sladar,which user does not use its 1st skill on splint?
i believe none rite?
so wat happen when sladar splints,YES increased in -ms but increased in
damage intake TOO.
so do having a higher HP plays a better part here?
i believe YES rite?
Nx is NS,hw do ppl usually use it,i believe they will either cast their ulti / wait for nitetime to hunt for heros.
N when this happens,hw will opponents react,they will cfm backoff to their lane nearest tower for cover / having their lane buddy hero to 2v1 against u.
so inorder to successfully hunt ur heros at nite,having a higher HP will b a perfect choice n it will not go wrong.
N finally ur nx sentence said "INT HEROES DUN NECESSARY NEED TO GET SOUL BOOSTER,SOMETIMES U CAN GET HOT WHICH IS VERY GOOD",
mayb u try using TS n straightaway u farm for a HOT,
n c whether u will get pawn easily by oppoents anot in the early stage.
cause every1 knows TS HP is damn low,n not only TS is like tat,a couple of intell heros too,
n if u play this style,it means tat u will cfm neglect ur task in harressing heros in the early game stage.
N wat will happen to opponents at this stage?
they will b happily farming for their items/pawning ur hero,
n by the time u got ur HOT,
opponents mid/late gamers,will ardy hav their att. items n increased in HP stuffs to overcome ur spamming,
n by then ur hero will b more/less useless.
so its back to basics,
as intell hero,ur task is to own these mid/late gamers to the core so tat ur team will b able to control the game in mid game or better still won the game. -
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I DUN WISH TO STRAIN MY EYES ON SUCH JUNKOriginally posted by a-Lost-9uY:May I know did u read wrongly?
when did i said "GETTING SOUL BOOSTER ON AGI HEROES",
if u wana say tat, y not u go try using Luna n buy SNY n c wat happens.
so inorder to hav both higher HP n MP,soul booster will b a perfect option for Luna or mayb a linker.
As diff ppl diff style.
Nx i nv said str heros must hav 4HOT,
YES they need hero killers items such as basher(as u hav said).
but then having higher HP is still their major pt.
N if i nv c wrong u said "SATANIC" rite?
so may i ask hw do u build tat? need a reaver rite?
so lets c, reaver gives 32*19=608 increased in HP(If im not wrong),
so in this figure proven u also care abt having a higher HP,
so I believe my pt is correct.
Furthermore u said "SLADAR OR NS ARE MEANT TO BE KILLER HEROES",
YEAH i agreed wif tat.
But having a higher HP is still the best for both of them,
as for sladar,which user does not use its 1st skill on splint?
i believe none rite?
so wat happen when sladar splints,YES increased in -ms but increased in
damage intake TOO.
so do having a higher HP plays a better part here?
i believe YES rite?
Nx is NS,hw do ppl usually use it,i believe they will either cast their ulti / wait for nitetime to hunt for heros.
N when this happens,hw will opponents react,they will cfm backoff to their lane nearest tower for cover / having their lane buddy hero to 2v1 against u.
so inorder to successfully hunt ur heros at nite,having a higher HP will b a perfect choice n it will not go wrong.
N finally ur nx sentence said "INT HEROES DUN NECESSARY NEED TO GET SOUL BOOSTER,SOMETIMES U CAN GET HOT WHICH IS VERY GOOD",
mayb u try using TS n straightaway u farm for a HOT,
n c whether u will get pawn easily by oppoents anot in the early stage.
cause every1 knows TS HP is damn low,n not only TS is like tat,a couple of intell heros too,
n if u play this style,it means tat u will cfm neglect ur task in harressing heros in the early game stage.
N wat will happen to opponents at this stage?
they will b happily farming for their items/pawning ur hero,
n by the time u got ur HOT,
opponents mid/late gamers,will ardy hav their att. items n increased in HP stuffs to overcome ur spamming,
n by then ur hero will b more/less useless.
so its back to basics,
as intell hero,ur task is to own these mid/late gamers to the core so tat ur team will b able to control the game in mid game or better still won the game. -
LOL,Originally posted by forum_dude:I DUN WISH TO STRAIN MY EYES ON SUCH JUNK
but i thought u ardy STRAINED at it in the 1st place?
btw if u wana comment on ppl,comment properly la.
dun assume wat ppl hav nv SAID.
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fight fight fight.....
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Luna
scepter , bot , dagger , mekansm , guinsoo , linken's sphere
Slayer
scepter , bot , dagger , guinsoo , refresher/dagon/necronomicon , linken's sphere/mekansm
Lich
scepter , bot , dagger , guinsoo , mekansm , linken's sphere/necronomicon
Terror Blade
ptread , manta , radiance , linken's sphere , butterfly , bkb (only if vs a group of aoe heroes) or yasha
Ps:images doesn't benefit from + dmg items so its pretty useless buying items like mkb , buriza or other dmg items but +stat items works with images. Same apply to heroes like naga siren , phantom lancer , chaos knight's phantasm but no so sure about morphling's replicate unless someone can confirm it -
URE MUM LA!Originally posted by suB^:Luna
scepter , bot , dagger , mekansm , guinsoo , linken's sphere
Slayer
scepter , bot , dagger , guinsoo , refresher/dagon/necronomicon , linken's sphere/mekansm
Lich
scepter , bot , dagger , guinsoo , mekansm , linken's sphere/necronomicon
Terror Blade
ptread , manta , radiance , linken's sphere , butterfly , bkb (only if vs a group of aoe heroes) or yasha
Ps:images doesn't benefit from + dmg items so its pretty useless buying items like mkb , buriza or other dmg items but +stat items works with images. Same apply to heroes like naga siren , phantom lancer , chaos knight's phantasm but no so sure about morphling's replicate unless someone can confirm it
Images DONT BENEDIT FROM DAMAGE ITEMS?? USELESS BUYING ITEMS LIKE MKB, BURIZE?
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Originally posted by suB^:
Err for Tb, u chiong manta for what.. u no damage chiong manta easy to die also.. so ure build practically doesnt work well. I wounldnt recommend linksphere as I dont think it needs the regeneration. But den again linkens can vary. Radiance would sound useless to me, dont know why u want it either. I'd rather a EOS den manta...
Luna
scepter , bot , dagger , mekansm , guinsoo , linken's sphere
Slayer
scepter , bot , dagger , guinsoo , refresher/dagon/necronomicon , linken's sphere/mekansm
Lich
scepter , bot , dagger , guinsoo , mekansm , linken's sphere/necronomicon
Terror Blade
[b]ptread , manta , radiance , linken's sphere , butterfly , bkb (only if vs a group of aoe heroes) or yasha
Ps:images doesn't benefit from + dmg items so its pretty useless buying items like mkb , buriza or other dmg items but +stat items works with images. Same apply to heroes like naga siren , phantom lancer , chaos knight's phantasm but no so sure about morphling's replicate unless someone can confirm it[/b] -
any idea why i always play halfway suddenly whole wc3 application close..no error shown..btw me comp ram only 512 isit enough to play bnet?
n if drow ranger..what will u guys get for her? -
I need help on my com graphics card too...Originally posted by SGpork:any idea why i always play halfway suddenly whole wc3 application close..no error shown..btw me comp ram only 512 isit enough to play bnet?
n if drow ranger..what will u guys get for her? 
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-waves-Originally posted by forum_dude:U FEEL THE WRONG WAY. STR HERO LIKE SLADAR OR NS ARE MEANT TO BE KILLER HEROES AND BUYING SATANIC+HYPERSTONE+BASHER WILL BE VERY GOOD FOR THEM INSTEAD OF GETTING 4 HOT, 1 AEGIS AND 1 BOT WHICH WILL BE USELESS EXCEPT TANKING. I DUN REALLY AGREE GETTING SOUL BOOSTER ON AGI HEROES COZ THEY R MEANT TO BE HERO KILLERS AND SANGE WOULD BE DAMN GD FOR THJEM COZ OF THE OGRE AXE(+10STR), VERY USEFUL AND CAN OSO MAIM PEOPLE.
INT HEROES DUN NECESSARY NEED TO GET SOUL BOOSTER, SOMETIMES U CAN GET HOT WHICH IS VERY GOOD
hi moron,
you look retarded using all caps all the while, are u dumb???
oh. so sad, u got lower than 50 IQ.
bye retarded spastic moron. -
u is nv tell me what item for her is good..Originally posted by gLc:I need help on my com graphics card too...
at least u can play..
mine is 90% sure auto close ...anytime after the game start..no error shown n my computer should be able to support the game..
i dont even know whats the problem -
My com hangs when i play. Last time never... ZzZz.. now dunno wtf is wrong with my com. It 100% sure hang halfway. I also havin 512 ram. And mine definitely supports it as it used to work pretty well without problems last time. Sigh. Dumb computers!Originally posted by SGpork:u is nv tell me what item for her is good..
at least u can play..
mine is 90% sure auto close ...anytime after the game start..no error shown n my computer should be able to support the game..
i dont even know whats the problem 
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dont believe go test it urselfOriginally posted by gLc:URE MUM LA!
Images DONT BENEDIT FROM DAMAGE ITEMS?? USELESS BUYING ITEMS LIKE MKB, BURIZE?
U haven seen nothing yet. -
If i dont know i go against u for what.. -.-Originally posted by suB^:dont believe go test it urself
U need to widen ure perspective on things. -
I didn't say i recommend you to make manta as your 1st item , you can go for relic 1stOriginally posted by gLc:Err for Tb, u chiong manta for what.. u no damage chiong manta easy to die also.. so ure build practically doesnt work well. I wounldnt recommend linksphere as I dont think it needs the regeneration. But den again linkens can vary. Radiance would sound useless to me, dont know why u want it either. I'd rather a EOS den manta...
Manta's feedback = 36 x 4 = 144 ((2 manta images , 1 conjure image and yourself)
agility from manta = 18 x 4 = 72 (2 manta images , 1 conjure image and yourself)
plus radiance 35 dmg immolation (passive) . <-- it works with images too
radiance has a 8% miss to the radiance bearer too.
EoS and manta just won't stack together . Neither one of them work with images
Last thing , only attribute bonus works with image . The only thing that buriza-do kyanon works on image are the critical strike not the dmg. -
Conduct a test then you will know the differenceOriginally posted by gLc:If i dont know i go against u for what.. -.-
U need to widen ure perspective on things.
Create a game and start off with soul keeper
Type money cheat , buy blade of attack and blade of alacrity , lastly the buriza-do kyanon
Learn the conjure image skill
Test started now
1:Run to the creeps spawn spot
2
rop either one of the items(blade of attack or blade of alacrity) on the floor
3:Summon conjure image and Start attack the creeps with buriza-do kyanon with one of the item on your inventory and see the dmg
4:after u saw the critical dmg pop out stop attacking
5rop the item that currently on your inventory(blade of attack or blade of alacrity)and picked up another one.
6:Start attacking again compare the dmg difference
those 2 items dmg difference are only 1 . so if
the critical dmg that deal out between the items cant be too ridiculous like 20or above dmg different
then either one of the items that i mention(blade of attack or blade of alacrity)is not works with images -
Wanna try Terrorblade MM?
U'll see the weakness of ure built.
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I dont understand ure experiment though.Originally posted by suB^:Conduct a test then you will know the difference
Create a game and start off with soul keeper
Type money cheat , buy blade of attack and blade of alacrity , lastly the buriza-do kyanon
Learn the conjure image skill
Test started now
1:Run to the creeps spawn spot
2rop either one of the items(blade of attack or blade of alacrity) on the floor
3:Summon conjure image and Start attack the creeps with buriza-do kyanon with one of the item on your inventory and see the dmg
4:after u saw the critical dmg pop out stop attacking
5rop the item that currently on your inventory(blade of attack or blade of alacrity)and picked up another one.
6:Start attacking again compare the dmg difference
those 2 items dmg difference are only 1 . so if
the critical dmg that deal out between the items cant be too ridiculous like 20or above dmg different
then either one of the items that i mention(blade of attack or blade of alacrity)is not works with images