Guide for the following heroes..
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does anyone have any experience for using the below heroes for the game? mind sharing how you use them and also item bulids you use? thanks alot.
1) Luna MoonFang
2) Slayer
3) Lich
4) Terrorblade -
luna is simple... alternate between lucent beam and stats... learn your ultimate when you can. once you hit level 12 max glaive then if you feel like it learn your aura before stats.
BoS
null
aghanims
blink dagger
refresher
linken's sphere
you dont need a lot of brains to own with luna. 1. nuke heroes with lucent beam 2. if you see a hero/a group of heroes alone without creeps near them turn on your ultimate and stay next to them 3. dont do anything stupid like chionging 5 heroes -
Slayer
early game get a ring of regen, 1 flask and 1 clarity.
learn the 2 nuke skills, with the dragon slave as the priority. Why? Because its hard to aim with the stun as it takes some time before you can see the effect, its useful for long distance spam too. microing takes some time to get used to, since she attacks slowly but her damage is quite high. get blink dagger and boots of speed afterwards. After getting dagger things should be simple. At night, press the dagger(left click) and get ready your T(hotkey), then blink over, press T and followed by your dragon slave and finger.
Then you can either get aganim scepter or dagon(provided theres little nukers and you can defend yourself easily) -
lich.
1. dark ritual
2. nova
3. nova
4. stats/dark ritual
5.nova
6. chain
blah blah.
dark ritual at level 1 so u can deny at least one creep if ure a really sucky farmer.
just do idiot-proof farming and do not push, just last hit.
ring of regeneration + 2 branches/chicken for starting items.
after that go for mekansm and ring of basilus and be a support hero.
lich already has a powerful chain frost and nova and thus can do massive damage in a team battle.
possible items after mekansm/roB: blink, aga scepter, refresher, boots of travel, guinsoo, necrominion
dont get mkb/buriza/sny or even try to be a battlelich. lich is unlike lina(ultimate+LSA), lion(double stun) or prophet(uber sprout+tele). maybe divine/aegis/hyper, but thats really if the game drags like damn long.
ur role in the team battle/gank is to stand behind and cover everyone with ur auras, cast frost armor on ur tank and just spam nova and dump chain frost.
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terror blade, pump metamorphsis and image if u buy a ring of regen.
aim for eye asap..
get a lane where the enemy aren't nukers..
once about lvl 16 with ur eye, u are unstoppable..
after that u can go for anything dmg items u want,mkb,buriza,rapier/aegis etc..
basically eye is important..although i have seen some builds that go for mantra straight..
btw for the not so skilled players, u shud learn the lifesteal to help u stay in a lane for exp and farming purposes..
if not i wun touch it will the last few levels when i'm forced too.. -
juz chiong and shoot.
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I DUN LIKE GETTING META AND IMAGE FOR TB EARLY GAME COZ ITS MANA CONSUMING
I RATHER GO FULL SUCK HP SKILL+STATS AND MAYBE GET 1 IMAGE IN BETWEEN
WITH THE SUCK LIFE SKILL, U CAN FARM EASILY ALTHOUGH NUKERS WILL OWN U
FOR TB ITS A WERID BUILD FOR ME COZ I WILL GET BOOTS 1ST WHEREAS NO OTHER HERO FOR ME WILL GET BOOT AS 1ST ITEM COZ IT SUX HOWVERE FOR MY TB STRATEGY, ITS TO FARM AND ESCAPE WHEN THE NEEDS ARISES
BY LVL16, U SHLD HAVE FARM TO SKADI LIAO AND NOW IS THE TIME WHEN U WILL BE PUSHING HARD. GET A BURIZA AND THIS WILL FURTHUR INCREASE UR DMG. WHEN U R STILL PUSHING BADLY EVEN WITH BURI AND EOS U SHLD BE GETTING A MANTA.
NOBODY CAN STOP U UNLESS THERE IS AREA EFFECT NUKERS+PA COZ AREA EFFECT NUKER WILL CLEAR AWAY UR IMAGES FAST AND PA WILL KILL U FAST EVEN WITH SUNDER COZ U DO NOT KNOW WHEN PA WILL CRIT U -
FOR SLAYER, ITS EVEN EASIER. I WILL GET ROR+BRACER 1ST. LEARN DRAGON SLAVE-STUN-DRAGON SLAVE-STUN-DRAGON SLAVE-LAGUNA
GET A VOID STONE WHEN U HAVE MONEY BETWEEN LVL1-6 AND U CAN KEEP CASTING DRAGON SLAVE TO INJURE THEM
THEN WHEN THEY THOUGHT U CANT KILL THEM WITH DRAGON SLAVE SHOOT THEM WITH LAGUNA, SURE KILL UNLESS THE STR HERO ALOT OF HP..
OR U COULD GO AROUND HUNTING FOR WEAK ASS AGI/INT HERO OR DYING HERO FOR A KILL WITH THE USE OF LAGUNA.
IF U PRO ENUFF U DUN EVEN NEED LAGUNA, STUN+SHOOT+DRAGON SLAVE+CHASE+DRAGON SLAVE SURE DIE
ITEM BUILD - - I NORMARLLY GET A EUL CYCLONE AND GUINSOO LATER PART. I WILL ALSO GET TELE DAGGER FOR THE STUN SKILL TO BE EFFECTIVE. U CAN GRAB A SKADI IF U R RICH ENUFF COZ WITH THE INCREASE ATTACK SPEED SKILL, U CAN BE A BATTLE MAGE TOO -
terrorblade go bottom lane for sentinel, top for scourge.
starting items: if picked, then chicken + 5 branches
if randomed, then chicken+ ring of basilus
skill build....just use ur imagination. terrorblade is a late game hero. he needs ALL his skills (except life steal) during late game battles, however u need life steal in early game so......YOU have to get ALL his skills maxed asap. stats? nah.
most important thing for tb is get boots asap and farm properly. a ranged tb with an image can easily decimate an int hero if backstabbed properly. abuse the nuetrals creeps....keep farming them once the creeps are far from ur tower. dont take risks...
hopefully you can get eye soon, then move on to manta style and butterfly. remember, for image heros you should aim to pump stats instead of damage/ias items because ur images do not benefit. that rules out mkb/buriza/deso/basher/radiance and leaves skadi/manta/butterfly/heart/linkens/sangeyasha -
err..
what about..
drow ranger
stealth asassin
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phantom asassin?
ranger..the silence very slow always before it come out i already got stunt.but i press before that guy
sa..how to use the first skill usefully?
usually i only pump bs n bs then ulti..
pa..do u learn blur early or ..after dagger n bs max?
anyone know how to use any of this 3 heros?
can post how u play them? -
SA
1. smokescreen
2. blinkstrike
3. backstab
4.blinkstrike
5.backstab
6. invis
7.blinkstrike
8.blinkstrike
9.backstab
10. smoke/stats
to use smokescreen effectively, blink strike the enemy then immediatedly cast smokescreen loh. then engage.
For PA
1. shadowstrike
2. blinkstrike
3.blinkstrike
4.stats
5.blinkstrike
6. critical
7.blinkstrike
8. shadow/stats
dont level blur at the start....no point. it wont help u from nuking. in fact learning more stats would be better -
You can use Luna in different ways. Caster Luna and Farm/Dmg Luna
I like having fun playing with Farm/Dmg Luna
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Farm/Dmg Luna:
Core Items:
BoT
Radiance
Blink Dagger
Aegis
Butterfly
Buriza or Linkin Sphere
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Pros:
1. Easier Escape (Dagger)
2. Easy Eclipse. (Dagger)
3. Considerable damage output late game
4. Great farming capability and with Tele (BoT+ Glaive + Radiance)
5, Does not totally rely on Eclipse like the Caster Build
6. More fun than the usual Luna Build of Eclipse after Eclipse
Cons:
1. Eclipse not that effective
2. Spend more gold than on Caster Build
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Orb Effects:
There are, in total, six item orb effects:
Maim (Sange, S&Y)
Lifesteal (MoD, MoM, HoD, Satanic)
Feedback (Diffusal Blade, Manta Style)
Chain Lightning (Maelstrom)
Corruption (Stygian Desolator)
Cold attack (EoS)
And these are how they work with Luna's Glaives.
Maim – When you get Sange, Luna doesn’t attack at all.
Lifesteal – Luna will leech life ONLY from the primary target, and still hit other units as usual. (Different attack animation)
Feedback – Luna still attacks as usual. NO feedback, though.
Chain Lightning – Just like Maim, Luna doesn’t attack at all.
Corruption – Same as Maim and Chain Lightning.
Cold Attack – No cold effect whatsoever. Just the usual attacks with different attack animation.
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Good Luck With Your Games -
sup stellazio, long time heh...Originally posted by stellazio:aim for eye asap..
ive seen players who goes for dagon first and gets eye very fast -
hmm. anyone here uses LOA? any ideas for item builds? mine is boots, ring of basilius, S & Y, power threads, 2 bashers and then if really needed, mkb.
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the tb i used quite weird leh but still a managable 1.
i dont find meta usefull to me in anyways. the skills that i added are also odd. i add image and stats respectively and ulti when its available and maxing out image b4 stats. then will go for life drain.
as for items, i always go for PT, basher, sny, then another basher.
nvr tried eye in any of my games, myb tonite go back can try try.
usually will roam around enemy hero letting them hit me until my life left less than half or around 1/4 then use ulti then image and start wacking. making use of the basher effect to stop them from running away too much. -
YOUR BUILD JUZ SUCK SHI T... IMAGE EARLY GAME JUZ PUMP ONE INTO IT COZ YOUR IMAGE IS FUC KING WEAK WITHOUT ANY DECENT ITEMS. JUZ F UCKING LEARN LIFE DRAIN, STATS, DRAIN, IMAGE, STATS, SUNDER, AND WHEN AROUND LVL13-15, PUMP IMAGE AND META. SKADI IS THE WAY TO GO FOR TB, THEN LATER GET BURIZA, BUTTERFLY AND MANTA STYLE COZ LATE GAME U WILL BE FARMING DAMN FASTOriginally posted by boredandsleepy:the tb i used quite weird leh but still a managable 1.
i dont find meta usefull to me in anyways. the skills that i added are also odd. i add image and stats respectively and ulti when its available and maxing out image b4 stats. then will go for life drain.
as for items, i always go for PT, basher, sny, then another basher.
nvr tried eye in any of my games, myb tonite go back can try try.
usually will roam around enemy hero letting them hit me until my life left less than half or around 1/4 then use ulti then image and start wacking. making use of the basher effect to stop them from running away too much. -
I ALWAYS GET 2 BASHER, 1 HYPERSTONE, 1 BURIZA, 1 BOT AND SATANIC, DUN NEED S&Y, HE ALREADY GOT THE SLOW ATTACK SPEED SKILLOriginally posted by Lance_han:hmm. anyone here uses LOA? any ideas for item builds? mine is boots, ring of basilius, S & Y, power threads, 2 bashers and then if really needed, mkb. -
alternative builds can go boots and dagon immediately for a early game domination. any hero other then str based and huge hp tanks can be killed by a single combo by lvl6, provided u farm well.Originally posted by crimson soldier:lich.
1. dark ritual
2. nova
3. nova
4. stats/dark ritual
5.nova
6. chain
blah blah.
dark ritual at level 1 so u can deny at least one creep if ure a really sucky farmer. just do idiot-proof farming and do not push, just last hit.
ring of regeneration + 2 branches/chicken for starting items.
after that go for mekansm and ring of basilus and be a support hero.
lich already has a powerful chain frost and nova and thus can do massive damage in a team battle.
possible items after mekansm/roB: blink, aga scepter, refresher, boots of travel, guinsoo, necrominion
dont get mkb/buriza/sny or even try to be a battlelich. lich is unlike lina(ultimate+LSA), lion(double stun) or prophet(uber sprout+tele). maybe divine/aegis/hyper, but thats really if the game drags like damn long.
ur role in the team battle/gank is to stand behind and cover everyone with ur auras, cast frost armor on ur tank and just spam nova and dump chain frost.
if ur tanker falls, run ure probably next -
i recomend radiance as the main item, get it once u have boots, ring of basilius and 2 bracers. farm ur heck b4 lvl 11 and own in mid game. it works.Originally posted by Lance_han:hmm. anyone here uses LOA? any ideas for item builds? mine is boots, ring of basilius, S & Y, power threads, 2 bashers and then if really needed, mkb. -
bashers are stupid once u have S&Y. the miam + frost atk is enough for a good slow (their stacks add up to near 50-70% slow.), added 2 useless bashers are irrelevant. bashers stack diminishes, 2 adds up to a near 37% of bash. it'll be better to spend the 3k on something else, like a reaver for +25str.Originally posted by forum_dude:I ALWAYS GET 2 BASHER, 1 HYPERSTONE, 1 BURIZA, 1 BOT AND SATANIC, DUN NEED S&Y, HE ALREADY GOT THE SLOW ATTACK SPEED SKILL
early game LOA requires a wholesome harness of apotic shield to survive and harass. ur build has no mana addition or mana regen. u wont be able to survive a proper public game without a boots. with 300 base movement speed and removed s&y, lets see how a -allpicksamehero with LOA u can survive under my build... -
hear to the most dangerous pair of hero. TB + necrolyte.Originally posted by forum_dude:YOUR BUILD JUZ SUCK SHI T... IMAGE EARLY GAME JUZ PUMP ONE INTO IT COZ YOUR IMAGE IS FUC KING WEAK WITHOUT ANY DECENT ITEMS. JUZ F UCKING LEARN LIFE DRAIN, STATS, DRAIN, IMAGE, STATS, SUNDER, AND WHEN AROUND LVL13-15, PUMP IMAGE AND META. SKADI IS THE WAY TO GO FOR TB, THEN LATER GET BURIZA, BUTTERFLY AND MANTA STYLE COZ LATE GAME U WILL BE FARMING DAMN FAST
sunder reaper is pain. dota's about teamwork.
life drain is essential, early pump on metamorphosis gives u an insurance that no hero left with bits of hp can run away from a 1/2 melee hero like TB.
dagon is a good choice, when u can sunder dagon low health arses like pugna. but the combo lasts only early games. -
WHEN U TYPE THIS POST, U DIDNT CARE TO READ OR EVEN THINK. DID I MENTION S&Y IN THIS BUILD? 2 BASHER+HYPERSTONE IS DEADLY AND U MAY SACRFICE A BASHER TO ADD A HOT. THERE IS ALREADY A SATANIC THAT ADDS EITHER 25OR30 STR, CANT REMEMBER. AND THERE IS THE BOT(BOOT OF TRAVEL), WONDER R U NOOB OR WHAT, THIS IS A FUC KING BOOT DAMNIT.Originally posted by Purplehaze623:bashers are stupid once u have S&Y. the miam + frost atk is enough for a good slow (their stacks add up to near 50-70% slow.), added 2 useless bashers are irrelevant. bashers stack diminishes, 2 adds up to a near 37% of bash. it'll be better to spend the 3k on something else, like a reaver for +25str.
early game LOA requires a wholesome harness of apotic shield to survive and harass. ur build has no mana addition or mana regen. u wont be able to survive a proper public game without a boots. with 300 base movement speed and removed s&y, lets see how a -allpicksamehero with LOA u can survive under my build... -
thats pure dumb.Originally posted by Purplehaze623:bashers are stupid once u have S&Y. the miam + frost atk is enough for a good slow (their stacks add up to near 50-70% slow.), added 2 useless bashers are irrelevant. bashers stack diminishes, 2 adds up to a near 37% of bash. it'll be better to spend the 3k on something else, like a reaver for +25str.
early game LOA requires a wholesome harness of apotic shield to survive and harass. ur build has no mana addition or mana regen. u wont be able to survive a proper public game without a boots. with 300 base movement speed and removed s&y, lets see how a -allpicksamehero with LOA u can survive under my build... 
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Y DUN U SAY YOUR BUILD. AT LEAST SOME OF HIS SENTENCES MAKE SOME SENSEOriginally posted by gLc:thats pure dumb. -
you dont need refresher for lich.
his ulti at level cooldown is very fast. refresher is a waste on lich when he can get dagon and other stuffs. sceptor is also quite a waste on lich.