Lina Inverse
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oh...silence? never had that problem before cause i usually BS them. actually i thought you were talking about the ghost actually...lolOriginally posted by stellazio:dp can silence..
if a centaur came after me,i'll just stun and start running..yea unless he has his life below 1000...i might try..
you backstab them, light strike then dragon slave. usually you only have time to cast dragon slave before they get un stunned. but anyway...half your life is gone...who the hell has time to cast silence? even if DP does do silence...just chase abit...then wait for it wear of zap her.
actually i'm really scared of oblivion....lvl 4 nether ward damn pain. -
probably...which is why i never played them...lolOriginally posted by stellazio:as i said earlier,the standard in public games are horrible..it is incredibly hard to do that against the inhouses standard.. -
her silence lasts for 9 secs i think..and her movement speed shud be able to outrun u back behind the towers..oblivion is a pain in the ass,but if you're gonna bs him,he'll probaly end up dead due to his low life..Originally posted by JennTS:oh...silence? never had that problem before cause i usually BS them. actually i thought you were talking about the ghost actually...lol
you backstab them, light strike then dragon slave. usually you only have time to cast dragon slave before they get un stunned. but anyway...half your life is gone...who the hell has time to cast silence? even if DP does do silence...just chase abit...then wait for it wear of zap her.
actually i'm really scared of oblivion....lvl 4 nether ward damn pain. -
thats why i pray every game that theres no AM on the enemy team. if there is i try to find a reason to leave it asap...lolOriginally posted by shade343:AM dont run towards you. The blink towards you.
pretty much because i recall how easily i owned lina when i used AM. it was like...free food to me. just whack it a few times its hp drop like shit. then void it if your lazy. all the spells she casts are like...nothing. -
yea his first skill 80% spell reduced damage really sucks..Originally posted by JennTS:thats why i pray every game that theres no AM on the enemy team. if there is i try to find a reason to leave it asap...lol
pretty much because i recall how easily i owned lina when i used AM. it was like...free food to me. just whack it a few times its hp drop like shit. then void it if your lazy. all the spells she casts are like...nothing. -
DP will silence then guinsoo you.Originally posted by JennTS:PA...you can see the idiot about to blink strike you...just target yourself.
SA...abit harder...but low life and idiocity makes it easy to kill.
DP...whats so hard? just like any other hero.
Centaur...well all depends. If he tries to run towards you to stun & attack you just time it perfectly. If he blink towards you...abit harder to anticipate. But once he stuns you just cast on yourself and try to kill him if his HP is low enough. If its too high just harass it or run or whatever. After that she will spam you and chase you with her carrion swarm.
Centaur will blink, stun and kill you. -
i figured that centaur cannot kill anyone if they're at full life..Originally posted by shade343:DP will silence then guinsoo you. After that she will spam you and chase you with her carrion swarm.
Centaur will blink, stun and kill you. -
9? sure? thats kinda long...considered to drow which is 6, and silencer which is 5.Originally posted by stellazio:her silence lasts for 9 secs i think..and her movement speed shud be able to outrun u back behind the towers..oblivion is a pain in the ass,but if you're gonna bs him,he'll probaly end up dead due to his low life..
anyway my point being was how easily you can pawn many agi and int heros when they have FULL life. light strike...pray that it hits...dragon slave, not a problem...then just zap them...they're dead immedietly. i caused many people to leave because they died in an instant when they had full life and full mana. they didnt even get the chance to put up a fight. -
you know in clan battles,usually there're observer wards all around..its pretty hard to bs anyone..Originally posted by JennTS:9? sure? thats kinda long...considered to drow which is 6, and silencer which is 5.
anyway my point being was how easily you can pawn many agi and int heros when they have FULL life. light strike...pray that it hits...dragon slave, not a problem...then just zap them...they're dead immedietly. i caused many people to leave because they died in an instant when they had full life and full mana. they didnt even get the chance to put up a fight. -
i thought it only reduces 60%...Originally posted by stellazio:yea his first skill 80% spell reduced damage really sucks..
hero resistance is 20% + spell shield 40%
although from experience i think it reduces about 65% - 70% damage. -
his mana break got deal extra damage anot ah??Originally posted by stellazio:yea his first skill 80% spell reduced damage really sucks.. -
hey...i'm the one that does the backstabbing here...lolOriginally posted by shade343:DP will silence then guinsoo you. After that she will spam you and chase you with her carrion swarm.
Centaur will blink, stun and kill you.
uhh...never met a DP that got guinsoo...they left too early. -
spell shield is not 40% la..60 i think..den including hero natural resistance its 80%..Originally posted by JennTS:i thought it only reduces 60%...
hero resistance is 20% + spell shield 40%
although from experience i think it reduces about 65% - 70% damage. -
no..just burn mana only.if not too jian..Originally posted by heavenscloud:his mana break got deal extra damage anot ah?? -
obviously...theres why AM is dam pain esp to int and agi heros.Originally posted by heavenscloud:his mana break got deal extra damage anot ah??
at lvl 7 you get +64 damage...and its not reduced by armor, and thats pretty gay cause its like having DD, and it burns of mana which you can void later.
i think AM is really gay too actually...i've have had 1/3rd life and still chased people around and they run from me...then when they come bang i blink away, zeus zap spell shield saves me. =)
also i've fought fights at 1/3rd life too against someone with full life, and came out unhurt...lol.
those bashers are gay, combined with antimage's super speed. got kinda bored of it after playing it for about 2 - 3 weeks...took up PA but i only played it for 4 rounds. got a rapier on all of them.
then i played Lina again...which was super fun...lol -
no la,it just burn mana for him to void..it doesn't deal extra dmg..Originally posted by JennTS:obviously...theres why AM is dam pain esp to int and agi heros.
at lvl 7 you get +64 damage...and its not reduced by armor, and thats pretty gay cause its like having DD, and it burns of mana which you can void later.
i think AM is really gay too actually...i've have had 1/3rd life and still chased people around and they run from me...then when they come bang i blink away, zeus zap spell shield saves me. =)
also i've fought fights at 1/3rd life too against someone with full life, and came out unhurt...lol.
those bashers are gay, combined with antimage's super speed. got kinda bored of it after playing it for about 2 - 3 weeks...took up PA but i only played it for 4 rounds. got a rapier on all of them.
then i played Lina again...which was super fun...lol -
i play AM so long you tell me this...wth. although i found out my v5.54 is 60% reduction though.Originally posted by stellazio:spell shield is not 40% la..60 i think..den including hero natural resistance its 80%..
anyway...AM's skills...all memorised.
Mana Break
Level 1 - Burns off 16 mana
Level 2 - Burns off 32 mana
Level 3 - Burns off 48 mana
Level 4 - Burns off 64 mana
Blink (60 mana)
Level 1 - 12s cooldown
Level 2 - 9s cooldown
Level 3 - 7s cooldown
Level 4 - 5s cooldown
Spellshield
Level 1 - 10% magic damage reduction
Level 2 - 20% magic damage reduction
Level 3 - 30% magic damage reduction
Level 4 - 40% magic damage reduction
Mana Void
Level 1 - Hero takes 0.6 damage / mana point missing (175 mana)
Level 2 - Hero takes 0.85 damage / mana point missing (225 mana)
Level 3 - Hero takes 1.1 damage / mana point missing (275 mana) -
okok zai..40% reduced + natural resistance = 60%..but burning off mana doesn't gives him extra dmg does it?Originally posted by JennTS:i play AM so long you tell me this...wth. although i found out my v5.54 is 60% reduction though.
anyway...AM's skills...all memorised.
Mana Break
Level 1 - Burns off 16 mana
Level 2 - Burns off 32 mana
Level 3 - Burns off 48 mana
Level 4 - Burns off 64 mana
Blink (60 mana)
Level 1 - 12s cooldown
Level 2 - 9s cooldown
Level 3 - 7s cooldown
Level 4 - 5s cooldown
Spellshield
Level 1 - 10% magic damage reduction
Level 2 - 20% magic damage reduction
Level 3 - 30% magic damage reduction
Level 4 - 40% magic damage reduction
Mana Void
Level 1 - Hero takes 0.6 damage / mana point missing (175 mana)
Level 2 - Hero takes 0.85 damage / mana point missing (225 mana)
Level 3 - Hero takes 1.1 damage / mana point missing (275 mana) -
you want to test it out right now? bet you S$50. =)Originally posted by stellazio:no la,it just burn mana for him to void..it doesn't deal extra dmg..
that is precisely why AM pawns so many heros very easily at lvl 7 onwards. when people whack you, just whack them back if your life is high enough. they'll start to lose and run, or if you start losing just blink away.
mana break...burns off mana. its just like mana burn you know? takes off the mana and damages them.
you also notice that alot of AMs always like whacking necromancers/talons? thats because they have mana and therefore AM does more damage to it, making it easier to kill. -
Originally posted by JennTS:
but u see,at early games am blinks behind me but he doesn't seem to deal 100+ dmg per hit..and i don;t have a high armour..in fact it took him about 5-6 hits before my life turn yellow..i was razor at lvl 7 too,and after 5-6 hits i only took about 350-400 dmg..
you want to test it out right now? bet you S$50. =)
that is precisely why AM pawns so many heros very easily at lvl 7 onwards. when people whack you, just whack them back if your life is high enough. they'll start to lose and run, or if you start losing just blink away.
mana break...[b]burns off mana. its just like mana burn you know? takes off the mana and damages them.[/b]
every player aims for the necro first..its the easiest to kill.. -
well...true...but...maybe that guy didnt add mana break or something...i dont know. but hell i played it long enough to know whether it does extra damage or not. see all the idiot agi heros who try to backstab me and end up getting whacked like shit.Originally posted by stellazio:but u see,at early games am blinks behind me but he doesn't seem to deal 100+ dmg per hit..and i don;t have a high armour..in fact it took him about 5-6 hits before my life turn yellow..i was razor at lvl 7 too,and after 5-6 hits i only took about 350-400 dmg..
every player aims for the necro first..its the easiest to kill..
although i suppose you get hero resistance to mana break too...should be aprox 20% i guess. but armor takes off about the same dmg from your normal attack at that level.
anyway thats why i absolutly DREAD heros at the beginning when they have no mana. (either used it or got it burned off) makes it harder for them to kill... =(
for AM when your calculating how much damage you can deal...you kinda take their mana into consideration on how much dmg you can cause by burning it off, then voiding it. if they got no mana its hard to kill them. -
Originally posted by JennTS:
every heroes like to whack those ranged creeps what. damn easy to kill ma.
you want to test it out right now? bet you S$50. =)
that is precisely why AM pawns so many heros very easily at lvl 7 onwards. when people whack you, just whack them back if your life is high enough. they'll start to lose and run, or if you start losing just blink away.
mana break...[b]burns off mana. its just like mana burn you know? takes off the mana and damages them.
you also notice that alot of AMs always like whacking necromancers/talons? thats because they have mana and therefore AM does more damage to it, making it easier to kill.[/b] -
but antimages whack them also because they deal extra damage to them.Originally posted by heavenscloud:every heroes like to whack those ranged creeps what. damn easy to kill ma. -
thats why spell casters are fun to kill...esp zeus since he has no disabling spells.
low armor = more damage.
low hp = less to whack.
high mana = more to burn off.
more to burn off = more to void if your lazy.
slow speed = easier to kill. -
its hard to stun someone when your are on opposite sites fighting creeps. its almost impossible so, dont try it.Originally posted by stellazio:one thing about the stun is the range involved..when u see her slow ass coming towards u,u siam sure miss liao..although i got see some pros before who stun the area behind u..meaning they anticipate ur movement..soo usually for her sutn to be effective its guinsoo or eul..
at the start i usually use it more as a defensive spell. when people come foward to attack you with spells (eg frost nova, impetus, lightning, etc.) you cast at the spot which is the maximum range to cast a spell. (600) or either that when they clear the ghouls/treants and come for the talon/necromancer, you aim at the spot which they would stand at to attack it.
the other way would be the backstabbing/sidestabbing way, which is alot easier as they're usually caught off guard. (i havent met one who ran away before they got stunned, only does who evaded it accdiently cause they were after a hero)
so, generally these are the only 2 ways to use it. by anticipating their movement towards you, and by casting it when they're off guard.