JustGrab: SMRT, Prime, Premier, Trans-Cab, HDT
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Well, it is dynamic, and I can say, the surge pricing in taxis will be in the mid of taxis fares and UG surge price, because the ultimatum is to compete, if taxis is to surge a fix price that matches UG surge price of x2 or x3 etc, then it will defeat the purposes when demand were not met, becos people like our lau char bor mods will still take UG. And as I said, given the same rental as what you are paying now on a taxis, taxi drivers can always switch between taxis meter and fix price fare. So, you have the best of both world. Let take an example, CBD at 7pm, peak period, UG surge X2 price at $40 from x to y Fix price for taxi at 1.5 of UG surge price ie $30 from x to y Taxi meter is the normal 1 x fare with all the surcharges at $25 from x to y UG remain UG Out of the usual 6 thousands taxi at CBD at that time of the day, 3 thousands may opt to go for fix fare pricing That leaves another 3 thousands, who initially have to compete with the other 3 thousands base on meter fare before fix fare come into the picture, and these 3 thousands will gain from many calls and pick up. Therefore, in my view, taxis will gain, if not the income, it will be the market or both.
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so it's up to the taxi companies to make the "surge" competitive.........
passengers will make their own choice depending on the fares shown in all apps at the point of booking
if TDs want this share of the pie, then they have to be less choosy
the risk will be unexpected traffic jams and road conditions
also, these taxi apps de backend system (in terms of matching and calculating the fares accurately, analysing data) can match up with uber/grab de or not is another qn.......
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Older cabbies not keen on surge pricing: "Why must we make things so complicated?"
The New Paper
9 March 2017Most of those who spoke to The New Paper were apprehensive about the pricing system and the technology involved.
Mr Chia Chiong Soon, 70, a cabby of 20 years, said: "Why must we make things so complicated? Older people usually drive leisurely, and all we want is for things to remain convenient and easy for us."
Another cabby, who wanted to be known as Mr Tan, 60, said: "I want to rely on the meter, and I don't want to have to keep meddling with my phone when I drive.
"It's dangerous and troublesome for me. My phone is old and cannot handle so many applications."
Others found the dynamic pricing model, which fluctuates based on demand, confusing.A Comfort taxi driver, Mr Chua, 59, felt that surge pricing would be unfavourable to taxis. He said: "If we have the same pricing model as Grab and Uber cars, then who will book our cabs? Commuters will stick with one platform because it's more convenient for them.
'PROMOTIONAL CODES'
"Moreover, Grab and Uber have promotional codes that could lower the price."
Another Comfort cabby, Mr Tan Tai Heng, 62, also prefers to stick to the meter.
He said: "I don't know how low-surge prices will go during non-peak periods. The meter pricing takes into account traffic jams and delays, so we may earn more."
However, Mr Mahmood Abdullah, 66, said surge pricing may help taxi drivers remain competitive.
"If we have the same pricing as Uber and Grab, then maybe we won't lose out on customers. They may also choose us because now we can all charge the same."
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Lau gui all very hard to change one lah, knn, some wear one pant for weeks also never change, you want them to change??? You can't even change a 40yo local guy, talk about changing 60+ yo guy. The media, especially local newspapers are just making fun of taxi drivers...so many times want to interview me, take my photos, I ask them to fark off...of all thing in Singapore, never trust the media. It can make you famous, it can also make your life miserable. And because of low reader rate in their newspaper, they will find taxis driver and make fun of us...so dun fall into their trap. Knnccb, got nothing better to report meh...keep talking about taxi driver...for fark
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took 2 x grabtaxi yday and chatted with both drivers
both talk about the "justgrab" tts gonna be rolled out next month (transcab)
they went for the training already
they seem happy about the new fare structure
say it will give them more opportunities...
take bookings got incentive.....
no bookings still got flag down...just tt one of the unkers mentioned tt when u use the fixed fare option, the vehicle tt comes may be a taxi or a PHV..... depending on which one nearer
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Taxi companies get green light to implement dynamic pricing system
Taxi companies have been given the green light to implement a new "dynamic pricing" system, in which fares will vary according to passenger demand.
In a joint statement, the Land Transport Authority (LTA) and the Public Transport Council (PTC) said on Friday (March 17) they have "no objections to the proposals" put forth by the cab operators on the new fare system, also known as surge pricing.
Dynamic pricing, however, will be an additional option for commuters booking a taxi, on top of the current metered rates.
Earlier this month, it was reported that several taxi operators had informed the PTC of their plans to implement the controversial pricing system, which is available in the Grab ride-hailing app.
Under it, customers will be quoted a flat fare when they book a taxi via the app, which they can choose to accept or reject.
On Friday, SMRT announced a partnership with Grab to introduce the dynamic pricing system.
The company, which has a fleet of more than 3,400 taxis, said: "Dynamic fixed fares are displayed upfront, and already accounts for travel time, distance, booking fees, and real-time demand and supply for taxis.
"SMRT taxi drivers who accept bookings via this new Grab service enjoy fixed, competitive fares for their service."
Surge pricing is used by apps Uber and Grab for its private-hire car services.
It has drawn flak from some commuters for being exorbitant, particularly during periods of high demand. There were instances when fares went up by 3.9 times during train breakdowns.
Second Minister for Transport Ng Chee Meng said in Parliament last week that the taxi industry should be allowed to " innovate and adapt to new market conditions and competition".
"Our taxi drivers have to make a living, and we should not restrict their ability to compete effectively." Mr Ng added.
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Before LTA/PTC give green light many taxi driver already using U/G already right? Seems now comfort will be the only one may be develping and using their own app.
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Comfort till now have never openly proclaim that they are partnering with any apps, they have their own apps, jus that it lack publicity and marketing, which I think will be abit too late if they do it now. Anyway, keep depending on UG is also not the way, cdg will add more spread for the consumers at large.
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depends on rider willing to dl more apps for this or not
for now, shuffling between uber and grab already quite enough
but if the pricing is relli competitive and service level is there, i believe many wont mind
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https://www.google.com.sg/amp/news.asiaone.com/news/transport/am-i-covered-insurance-if-im-grab-or-uber-car-passenger%3Famp Taxi cost is higher. Car also better. Insurrance also no need to worry. Fares same as phv? Siao bo. Grab is really take advantage on taxi
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Originally posted by peterpan212:
https://www.google.com.sg/amp/news.asiaone.com/...
Taxi cost is higher. Car also better. Insurrance also no need to worry. Fares same as phv?
Siao bo. Grab is really take advantage on taxii agree, grab is not doing this for taxi drivers advantage
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Grab started as grab taxi then they tried to swing to grab car and now seems back to taxi pool again but with their fare/promo rate. duno will last how long
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grabtaxi driver say got incentives if they take booking from app
i think is 10 a day
no bookings then can just take flag down loh
still go by meter
win-win situation
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But grabtaxi I did, always kenna chao aunty like the one above of me, or si gina who lazy to walk to market, smlj $5, $8, $10 promotion, , reach there $5.10, give me 10cts and laughed...feel like want to strangler all these cheapo..chao aunties and si gina..then limpek hv to key this and that into grab apps..knn...seibei cham then Cdg call come in, ping, kin ka kin chiu, press 4 minutes, lanjiao cab got no auto bid booking... wha, good trip men...go airport from teck whye...off grabtaxi apps
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Surge pricing, please don't turn into a scourge
So it looks like nothing is standing in the way of taxi companies imposing their version of "surge pricing" on customers.
Last Friday, the Public Transport Council (PTC) and the Land Transport Authority (LTA) issued a statement saying they had "no objections" to the proposals by taxi companies to impose what they termed "dynamic pricing".
Surge pricing, a system used by private car-sharing apps such as Uber and Grab, adjusts fares according to passenger demand in a particular area at a particular time.
Taxi companies had applied to the PTC to be allowed to introduce such fare pricing on bookings made on mobile apps.
Uber and GrabCar have, in recent years, provided real competition to cab companies, with media reports of many un-rented cabs sitting around.
There was hope that, if nothing else, this competition will finally drive cab companies to provide better service to customers and better welfare for their drivers too.
I find it rather ironic that of all the things to learn from the likes of Uber and Grab, the cab companies have chosen to copy their surge pricing.
After all, surge pricing is probably the one thing that commuters hate most about these apps.
Just think back to July 2015, when two of the main MRT lines - the North-South and East-West lines - had a major breakdown that lasted for 3½ hours.
Uber implemented surge pricing of up to five times the usual fare, prompting a huge outcry online among frustrated commuters.
Within an hour of the surge, Uber readjusted fares to remove the surge mechanism.
Strangely enough, the largest cab company here, ComfortDelgro, said after the PTC's and LTA's okay that it will not be introducing surge pricing. Instead, it will introduce a flat fare based on a metered-fare structure.
Uber and Grab say they use surge pricing to encourage more drivers to get out on the road when demand is high.
DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD
The reverse will also then be applicable - that when there is no surge pricing, fewer drivers are out picking up rides.
Uber and Grab can get away with this, fairly or unfairly, because they are not seen as the mainstays in the business like how cabs are viewed.
But if cab companies introduce surge pricing too, would taxis still ply the roads for a flag-down customer who will probably be paying a lower fare?
Would people in Orchard Road on a Friday night be able to get a ride back home without paying ridiculously high prices?
And would taxi companies be losing the very edge they currently hold over Uber and Grab by introducing dynamic pricing?
When I need a ride, what I usually do is check Uber and Grab to see how high their surge is.
If I feel the fare is unreasonable, I will either wait for it to go down or take a GrabTaxi instead.
But if all parties - Uber, Grab and taxis - are charging surged fares, which will I go for?
I'm pretty sure it's not the ones with the grumpy uncle behind the wheel.
love the last line
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I love the line before the last.. For this cheapo writer, you can always walk home or be like grumpy uncle like me, use mobile bicycle, So if you live or work around MRT stations like Boon Lay, Jurong East, Redhill or Woodlands, you can rent a bike (it costs $1/half hour) to get to your destination. And the most convenient part is, you don’t have to rent or return the bike at proper docking stations — any public bicycle parking space works. You can just track the parking and bicycle locations on oBike’s map, thanks to a nifty thing called GPS. Download the app on the Apple App Store or Google Play, sign up and lock in a deposit of $50 for the first use. Then search for any available bike close to your location and reserve one. When you find it, scan the QR code on the bike with your phone to unlock it. After you’ve reached your destination, manually lock it and leave it at a public parking area for the next user. If grumpy taxi uncle also use it, why need uber and grab or taxi??
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like this is good or no good for TD?
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Originally posted by Pandanchen:
like this is good or no good for TD?
Grab is treating taxi as phv. I heard the commission pay to grab is 10%. This is definitely going to be more than the $0.50 for grabtaxi. Td can only earn more only when there is a surge. But td needs to know the normal taxi fares compare to the fix surge fares. How often will there be surge? No.phv rental car is now 53k. Taxi is approx 27k. The supply now is more than double of taxi before ug started . supply for grab phv is now increase further with 40% of taxi (exclude comfort taxi). Hence, supply is plenty how to get many surge? -
grab control its own app.
u shall see which vehicle grab wants it to come first. lol
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Originally posted by Artillery Cannon:
grab control its own app.
u shall see which vehicle grab wants it to come first. lol
If u r the owner of the apps. Which one will.u selected? Of course the one when give u more money. Why need taxi? To increase the supply so to handle high demand situation. When there is increase supply how to surge? -
在讲色墨呀
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http://i.imgur.com/pnkpiSH.jpg Another view. With supply from taxi. No need to pay grabcar driver incentive. Less job for them. It all depend on how grab going to play the games. U cant kill taxi or phv, otherwise u will be control by the only party.
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friday 8pm to mid night
how can be off peak?
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Originally posted by Pandanchen:
friday 8pm to mid night
how can be off peak?
You have sold your soul away. It is not for you to decide when is peak and when is off peak.
Make no mistake about it. Most TDs can think of only surge pricing. But with JustGrab, most of the time is NON-SURGE which means the fares are lower than metered fare (equal to grabcar price) PLUS you compete with Grabcar drivers PLUS you pay 10% commission.
So Friday night is off peak, you take the calls, the fare will be lower than meter. Pity the non-comfort drivers though.
You decide which is better after calculating whatever incentives you may have.
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At the end of the day, it is the companies and paxs market, no more a drivers market, be it you are a UG or taxi driver, you will become cow, horse and buffalo as the market keep capitalizing on cheap fares and cheap paxs...the grass aka incentives, is just putting in front of you to make you slog the field all day for it. Sometime you look at it, it is an exploitation of drivers of the first class. All jobs given to foreigners who accept lower salary, locals, be whatever education you are, end up slogging on the road for foods...something is not right men...I feel the future of Singapore look bleak. In a driver market, we can change shift Chinatown,,