Driverless taxis going to roll out in Japan 5 years later
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Originally posted by bowah:
People are getting aged, that we cannot deny, as a casket driver, my business also went up from year to year, however, locals are also getting to live longer, as you had heard from news that Singaporeans are now between the 3 and 4th place in the world to live the longest, coupled with govt intention to reduce foreign dependency and go into a so called Singapore Core policies, together with the extension of re employment to 67 years old, there will be job for locals.
say singapore core policies then job will be created? show us the fact. u already said, ppl live longer, more ppl need job, where r the job?
now td job is going sunset also invaded by ft n driveless car.
yr statement on yr casket business go up year by year. ppl live longer more casket business? dont u tink it should be the other way round. more ppl die than more business.
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Live longer does not imply people will not die, when I was driving casket in 90s, the population is only 4millions, now is roughly 5.6millions, but the casket companies did not increase, drivers still same same, but aged only. So, that could be the reason why business is increasing and even places to put yr urn is almost full, so if free, go book a place first, prices will go up. Many of TD lau, who already drove taxi for many years are now unable to shift our of the taxi trade, drive taxi will most probably be their last frontier, more over to many, it is already a comfort zone job. Eng eng go kopitiam or geyland also can, where to find this type of job after you had know all the roads and experiences gained. So, it is not a matter of no job for taxi drivers, it is a matter of whether taxi drivers are willing to come out of their zone (be if comfort or hard) and change line thru reskilling, upgrading and placing, and I can said, most will not want to be unless the job pay them 4k and above. That is the truth of it, many do not want a boss on top of them looking at them working. If can, go read on what that lim sia suay spoke on Singapore core and it policies to companies...
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Originally posted by bowah:
Live longer does not imply people will not die, when I was driving casket in 90s, the population is only 4millions, now is roughly 5.6millions, but the casket companies did not increase, drivers still same same, but aged only. So, that could be the reason why business is increasing and even places to put yr urn is almost full, so if free
, go book a place first, prices will go
up.Many of TD lau, who already drove taxi for many years are now unable to shift our of the taxi trade, drive taxi will most probably be their last frontier, more over to many, it is already a comfort zone job.
Eng eng go kopitiam or geyland also can, where to find this type of job after you had know all the roads and experiences gained.
So, it is not a matter of no job for taxi drivers, it is a matter of whether taxi drivers are willing to come out of their zone (be if comfort or hard) and change line thru reskilling, upgrading and placing, and I can said, most will not want to be unless the job pay them 4k and above.
That is the truth of it, many do not want a boss on top of them looking at them working
.If can, go read on what that lim sia suay spoke on Singapore core and it policies to companies…
Live longer does not imply people will not die
-> live longer means ppl suppose to die now die later.
so less ppl die now -> how to has more business?
in 90s, the population is only 4millions, now is roughly 5.6millions.
-> population increase mainly due to import of FT. However, ppl import
are not old ppl that going to die. Again this will not contribute to your casket business.
the casket companies did not increase, drivers still same same, but aged only.
-> If business is really that good, why no new player. as long as it is good money will sure attract ppl.
Last but not lease, if the business is really that good why u still need to drive taxi?
Therefore, your claim on the below statement that casket business went up from year to year due to ppl getting aged cannot sustain.
People are getting aged, that we cannot deny, as a casket driver, my business also went up from year to year
Since you are not putting true statement. There is no point to discuss further.
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Everything must come to an end lah, less people die now but population increased, many foreigners wish to die here. If you can find a true statement in this world,..I cut my &^^%$#&^&*lan*&*%CHeow*&^% off. Dun be ignorance lah, everything is an illusion, dun need to get too serious, most of us already got one leg inside the coffin liao.. life is short, play hard. Nobody sent casket at nite, so I drive taxi at night shift lor, then at the same time, can give excuse to my lau charbo that I go drive taxi mah, but most of the time, can find me at lor 21 kopitiam lah..
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Originally posted by bowah:
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Originally posted by bowah:
>We cannot simply paint a picture base on illusion that flavor ourselves as a Taxi drivers, we need to be realistic at time, PM Lee do not go visit USA and sit on a driveless car for nothing, the govt is damn interested in it. And why so?
It was not PM Lee's real intention to visit USA to sit in a driveless car, it was Google's intention (they are also one of the many companies researching on driveless cars) to make use of the opportunity for PM Lee to see it so that they could push for it. Remeber one of the jobs of the government is to ensure Singaporeans have jobs and not take away jobs. PM Lee once said he allowed foreigners in to work on jobs that Singaporeans do not want to do. He has to be reminded again that taxi driving job is what Singaporeans want to do and want as a backup job.
>1. To reduce foreigner dependency
We do not depend on foreigners for taxi driving....remember it is 100% Singaporeans who are driving the taxis..
>2. To catch up with the nos of taxi driver getting aged and flow
There is not shortage of new people entering the market as indicated by the number of people who register to take the taxi course. In fact, another 45,000 Singaporeans who are not active taxi drivers continue to renue their license knowing that they would need it one day.
>3. To cope with lesser locals taking up taxi driving (as most TD will not ask their son to be taxi driver)
In fact it is not there are lesser locals providing personal transportation services. It is just some of the taxi drivers went to drive for Uber and Grabcar. So there are actually more cars on the roads providing taxi and no-street hail kind of taxi services.
>4. To be the first, beside japan, in asia with an advance transport system so as to put ourselves in pole position
Also what is the advantage of being one of the first few countries to implement driverless taxis? I see no advantage. On the contrary, there are many disadvantages. If we are smart, we let the cars manufacturing countries implement them in their own countries before we decide whether to implement here. Remember these are the real countries that are engaging in R&D for driveless cars. There would also be social disorders and huge unemployments factors to consider.
If we are smart, we let the countries that manufacture cars implement what they want in their countries first due to too expensive taxi fares, wait for bugs to be ironed out, observe the social impacts (strikes, crime rates increase, affecting of other industries due to no family purchasing power) first before we do our own feasibility studies. I spoke to a French once and he said most people in France cannot afford to take taxi there as it is too expensive (this is the reason why the car manufacturing countries are engaging in driveless vehicle R&D).
I will just mention some of the disadvantages here:
a) When new vehicles are designed, there is bound to be a lot of bugs and faults which has to be ironed out. So do we want to allow problematic cars to go on the roads in Singapore?
b)Our roads here are a lot more congested than countries that are researching on driveless cars. Do we want to put Singaporeans lives at risk?
c) It would cause existing 55000 taxi drivers to go jobless with no replacement jobs. No 5 MNCs could generate 55000 new jobs for Singaporeans (remember more new jobs in Singapore goes to foreigners as the employment ratio of 55% (Singaporeans + PR) vs 45% work permit holders ensure that Singpaporeans would be outnumbered as PRs are actually foreigners. In fact, it could be 100% by having 55% PRs and 45% work permit holders. Remember it could directly affect more than 200,000 Singaporeans as taxi drivers are often the breadwinners of the family. It also indirectly affect other industries (eg, kopi tiam, retailshops, supermarkets, electronic stores) and their sales would be down when taxi drivers have no income. Remember workfare solution is not a solution as it does not guarantee a good job.
d) There could be social disorders (means strikes). There definitely could be social disorders in other countries if implemented there.
e) Crime rates would increase as too many Singaporeans would be directly affected.
f) It takes away backup jobs of Singaporeans who may be retrenched later. These days good jobs with steady income are not easy to get. Our existing taxi drivers' job is a self-sustaining job in which no additional money needs to be chiped in.
g) The government loses a huge amount of money that comes from just GST collected for rental (not including fuel GST, ERP, parking and others). It is approximatly $72 million from all taxi drivers. This amount is roughly what a MNC that makes $400 milion profit pays in corporate profit tax. Even a blue-chip like SPH does not bring in so much money for the government (which would later be spent on more meaningful things in the country).
>5. And most important, out of record, with driveless, they will not have to deal with this grab, uber or taxi drivers problem…people like me gives them many problem hor.
I suspect the only reason why Grab and uber are allowed to operate in Singapore is to ensure more Singaporeans have jobs.
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Train problem already cannot solve, still want to do new technology driverless cars, dont know can handle or not. Maybe when driverless car breakdown the impact will be big, imagine a 80km/hr car cannot stop.
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Dun worry lah, by that time, you and me may not be around liao...let them rot lah
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Originally posted by bowah:
Dun worry lah, by that time, you and me may not be around liao…let them rot lah
I know by then you would not be driving taxi but myself and others would still want to drive taxi.
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Now not like before not easy to find another good job after retrenchment due to influx of foreigners especially those after 45.
If traditional taxi driving job is replaced by driverless cars, then those Singaporeans who are retrenched lose a very good backup job. So very little job options would be left for them and they probably would end up working at jobs with no fixed income like financial advisors, property agents, renovation sales coordinators, commissioned-based sales positions as well as cleaners and security guards. Let us also not forget that the military also releases a lot of signed-on regulars at the age of 45 and 50.
Also those currently employed may be exploited by their bosses and managers asking them to do this and that or station in a third world country for many years with no back out option. They may be saying something like....you don't do you, just resign....now not like last time can work as taxi drivers.....I think you would be working as cleaner or security guard. If start own business, probability of failure much higher than success too.
What happens if they only have one flat (I am not talking about those living in Condo and renting out their HDB flat to foreign talents) and is still paying the load and support a housewife with 2 Singaporean kids and parents?
Remember, foreign talents who lose their Singaporean jobs could still go back to their own country to buy cheap houses (you know properties for natives of countries like Malaysia, India, Phillipines, Indonesia, Thailand are super cheap) and live comfortably there....Singaporeans who lose their jobs in Singapore are stuck with the Singaporean cost of living (which expatriates rated as highest in the world).
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If you still want to drive, can also drive for many others, from uber to grab to ambalance to concrete mix truck to tipper truck to forklift...why must be taxis??? Democratically speaking, if 70% agreed on the influx of foreigners, what can you do??? Not happy, they can tell you, please hor Uncle, Changi AP and the 2 checkpoints operate 24 hrs, only Harbour front and Tanah Merah FT operate from 9am to 10pm, by all means, you are free to go.
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Originally posted by bowah:
If you still want to drive, can also drive for many others, from uber to grab to ambalance to concrete mix truck to tipper truck to forklift…why must be taxis???
Democratically speaking, if 70% agreed on the influx of foreigners, what can you do??? Not happy, they can tell you, please hor Uncle, Changi AP and the 2 checkpoints operate 24 hrs, only Harbour front and Tanah Merah FT operate from 9am to 10pm, by all means, you are free to go.
I don't think 70% agreed on influx of foreigners......it is just 70% that wants PAP to stay in power due to proven past records. Also not all districts were contested by competent non-PAP candidates (Singaporeans would never endorse not worthy of becoming MP candidates).
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Traffic light spoilt nia already can see the chow of traffic.......
Driverless?.......
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Originally posted by Neutral-Thinker:
I don't think 70% agreed on influx of foreigners......it is just 70% that wants PAP to stay in power due to proven past records. Also not all districts were contested by competent non-PAP candidates (Singaporeans would never endorse not worthy of becoming MP candidates).
My goodness, whether that 70% agreed or not to immigration policies, they already endorsed the govt to implement it, Govt holds power on the basis of the strong 70% backing that give them the autonomy to make policies and regulations and increase they own paid. -
This is the likely scenario in future ( http://news.asiaone.com/news/singapore/union-leader-prepares-own-retrenchment ) therefore we cannot allow driverless car in otherwise too many Singaporeans would lose jobs and those in other industries would have no backup jobs.
Even Union Leader wants taxi driving as backup job. Likely more and more companies would shift out of Singapore due to high cost. So many more would need taxi driving as backup job.
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We cannot stop technology, society and people will naturally change at the brink of it existence. In the light of when british decided to pull out their navy base and army out of Singapore in the 60s, we decided to go industrialization, Prior to them announcing pulling out, we were all happily doing our service and job, when announced, we got no choice, but to move in that direction, and everyone, including the world and locals think Singapore cannot make it. But we did. We must all prepare for creative destruction, and not rest on our laurel in the comfort of our cocoon, change is inevitable, and destruction of old method of doing or driving is inevitable so as to make way for new way of transportation, from man pulling trishaw to today driverless, one creation shall destruct the others existence. And our situation in denying driverless entry is the same as those in the early 20 century, where man pull trishaw objected diesel driven engine car.
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Originally posted by bowah:
We cannot stop technology, society and people will naturally change at the brink of it existence. In the light of when british decided to pull out their navy base and army out of Singapore in the 60s, we decided to go industrialization,
Prior to them announcing pulling out, we were all happily doing our service and job, when announced, we got no choice, but to move in that direction, and everyone, including the world and locals think Singapore cannot make it. But we did.
We must all prepare for creative destruction, and not rest on our laurel in the comfort of our cocoon, change is inevitable, and destruction of old method of doing or driving is inevitable so as to make way for new way of transportation, from man pulling trishaw to today driverless, one creation shall destruct the others existence.
And our situation in denying driverless entry is the same as those in the early 20 century, where man pull trishaw objected diesel driven engine car.
What are the advantages (only real tangible benefits; intangible benefits not counted) of driverless taxis?
What are the trade-off Singaporeans have to give up for driverless cars? A lot of jobs, safety, backup jobs, decent living, social orders, tax revenues....
Not worth it.....
Driverless taxis are for countries where taxi fares are too expensive.
Who really gains from it? Mostly car manufacturing countries and very little Singaporeans.
Who are the people pushing for it?
Car manufacturing countries and people they sponsor, employ, and bribe.
Remember most of the car manufacturing countries have very expensive taxi fares which is the reason why there started R&D on driverless cars.
Can we survive without driverless taxis? YES.
Will we be left behind without driverless taxis? NO
If there going to be equally good replacement jobs if 55,000 purely Singaporean jobs are lost? NO
What could Singaporeans do if more Singaporeans are retrenched and 55,000 purely Singaporean taxi drivers jobs are lost? ??????
Who gains from introduction of driverless taxis? Mostly foreigners.
Who loses from introduction of driverless taxis? Singaporeans.
Why till now only trains are the only driverless vehicles being implemented in public places? Because there are no traffic on their path and they are 100% safe as driverless vehicles. Even little traffic on the path commercial planes are deemed as not safe without human control.
Can driverless cars go at 90 km/h safely in all weather? No
Can driverless cars handle wheel chairs and weak passengers? No
Car driverless cars help with luggages? No
Can driverless cars handle problems at parking lot gantry points if there are malfunctions? No
Can driverless cars take simple instructions like stop beside the Green Car after the shelter? No
Can driverless cars handle road blockages? No
Can driverless cars handle all carparks scenarios? No
Can driverless cars deal with fare evaders? No
Can driverless cars be easilly trapped on the road or in the carpark? Yes...you just have to put one cone in front and one cone at the back for it to be trapped.
Can driverless cars handle the instructions of marshallers at places like hotels and airports?
Can driverless cars handle a situation like lane diversion on expressways (two lanes blocked due to accident) ?
Can driverless cars handle police road blockages and nagvigate through newly created obstacle paths ? No
The list of things that driverless cars cannot do goes on and on.
Humans are alive, machines are dead .... it requires too much effort to teach a dead machine how to do everything.
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Some suggestions indicated against the questions. No right or wrong answers.
Can we survive without driverless taxis? YES.[Driverless taxis are good to have and it will likely be offered as an alternative option, not a replacement for all taxis]
Will we be left behind without driverless taxis? NO
If there going to be equally good replacement jobs if 55,000 purely Singaporean jobs are lost? NO [Don't think driverless taxis will ever replace all existing taxis. It will be offered as an alternative alongside standard taxis].
What could Singaporeans do if more Singaporeans are retrenched and 55,000 purely Singaporean taxi drivers jobs are lost? ??????
Who gains from introduction of driverless taxis? Mostly foreigners.[Not sure about this]
Who loses from introduction of driverless taxis? Singaporeans.[Not Singaporean passengers. They might benefit cos no more winding down windows to ask for destination, no more hiding for calls, no more change shift Chinatown...haha].
Why till now only trains are the only driverless vehicles being implemented in public places? Because there are no traffic on their path and they are 100% safe as driverless vehicles. Even little traffic on the path commercial planes are deemed as not safe without human control.
Can driverless cars go at 90 km/h safely in all weather? No [ They do not need to go at 90km/h. All weather? Singapore only Sunny and Rainy. No snow, no typhoons, no hurricanes..so no problem].
Can driverless cars handle wheel chairs and weak passengers? No [No problem. Pax will understand beforehand and will help load themselves].
Car driverless cars help with luggages? No [No problem. Pax can load themselves. They will understand. You mean currently, the taxi unker got come out and help meh? hehe].
Can driverless cars handle problems at parking lot gantry points if there are malfunctions? No [New IUs don't need car park gantries. Car parks can be zoned as what is known as Geofencing in the GPS lingo].
Can driverless cars take simple instructions like stop beside the Green Car after the shelter? No [If pax knows it is driverless, they will NOT give such instructions in the first place. Will key in the exact drop off point].
Can driverless cars handle road blockages? No [Yes. Technologically possible with advanced sensors].
Can driverless cars handle all carparks scenarios? No [As mentioned above].
Can driverless cars deal with fare evaders? No [Driverless cars no cash payments. All through credit cards lah like Uber. Alamak].
Can driverless cars be easilly trapped on the road or in the carpark? Yes...you just have to put one cone in front and one cone at the back for it to be trapped.[ Pax are not stupid. They can come out and remove the cones. If got no pax on board and on the way to pick up point, at most no show only wat. Nobody gets hurt. Not like current taxis dun have no show oso...].
Can driverless cars handle the instructions of marshallers at places like hotels and airports? [Why need marshallers. Everything is through call booking. No street hail. Pax cannot give instructions to marshallers instead?]
Can driverless cars handle a situation like lane diversion on expressways (two lanes blocked due to accident) ? [Yes. Technologically possible in the future].
Can driverless cars handle police road blockages and nagvigate through newly created obstacle paths ? No [Yes. Technologically possible in the future].
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This world is progressing towards an economy driven by robots and artificial intelligence (AI). Embrace it we must. Reject it we must not.
Already we have sex robots that can provide warmth (through batteries) and some speech.
Even our MDT technology has advanced. Rickshaw era no MDT. Then came the radio and walkie talkie.
Our humble Creative 99 PC is long gone. I used to own it. I still remember 20 yrs ago, there were shops in funan and peninsula and sim lim selling pirated software on 5.25" floppy disks. Now no more.
Not forgetting our police. Last time wear shorts and chase people with sticks. Now they wear long pants and learn how to take cover.
You worried about driverless cabs? What if robots started taking over the classrooms? What about the soldiers and police and fighter pilots being replaced by advanced robots in 20 years?
What if the day comes when geylang no longer needs thai or prc pros because the robot can do everything a girl can do on bed plus operate 24/7?
Fear is the path to the dark side.. Fear leads to anger.. Anger leads to hate.. Hate leads to suffering..
Remember the movie - The attack of the clones - from star wars. Mankind are already exploring other habitable earth-like planets. Whatever u see on the silver screen is a prophecy. It will all come true. The day will come when robot clones are used in space wars, not just wars on earth.
When this day comes, many many traditional jobs will go. Remember the dinosaur called T. rex? So big so strong so powerful. It went extinct because it cannot adapt to a changing planet.
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My first hard disk drive was a Seagate ST-225 or something. Only 2MB capacity. lolololol...
Don't think too much about driverless taxis lah...with technology advancing, old economies like retail shops will go and along with it, millions of jobs. What's 55,000 taxi driver jobs?
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Originally posted by Taxilim88:
My first hard disk drive was a Seagate ST-225 or something. Only 2MB capacity. lolololol...
Don't think too much about driverless taxis lah...with technology advancing, old economies like retail shops will go and along with it, millions of jobs. What's 55,000 taxi driver jobs?
Retail shops at HDB would not disappear because ordinary Singaporeans want retail shops to survive.
If everything is online, then we would be in trouble as everything is controlled by some people who could not handle viruses and backdoor bugs planted in OS.
When more jobs disappear, more would want to drive taxis.
The bottomline is those pushing for driverless taxis are unable to generate as many new good jobs for Singaporeans in Singapore.
If they are somehow able to generate equivalence amount of good jobs, it has to be shared with FTs which means more than 100,000 new good service sector (even more if you talk about Marine sector, construction sector or manufacturing sector) jobs need to be generated.
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Driveless or any other new technology shall create it own value chain of jobs, eg driverless shall create programming jobs, driverless car repair jobs, driveless GPS pod maintenance and servicing jobs which are higher skill jobs that require higher knowledge and skill, and that is where upgrading and skilfuture come into the picture. And with a diminishing of local population, that fit well into training our locals (the youngs one, not us hor, we lau kok kok liao, train smlj also no use) into the innovation economy that will outdate the 70s' industrial and 90's knowledge economy. And with it, less manpower are required, and that fit into the reduction of foreign dependency. Robotics and automation is not new, you can see it changes and happening day by day. Just like you drive taxi today, from nets to ezlink to credit cards..and the next day you go ATM...you notice that you do not even need to face a human. And it is 24hrs, and you can also do internet banking transfer with just the tip of yr finger. Finance industrial is one such industrial that is doing it, and you can see that they are retrenching thousands of ah nehs and foreign expat day by day, so if you wonder why today foreign ah neh are not so proud, because they are also under threat as banks go into internet banking and automation. Uber is the world largest transport provider without even a car Alibaba and it subsidiary taobao is the world biggest retail but do not own a single store and goods ABN is the world biggest tour and hotel/residential booking, but do not even own a single room nor any tour agent.
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Originally posted by Taxilim88:
Will we be left behind without driverless taxis? NO
If there going to be equally good replacement jobs if 55,000 purely Singaporean jobs are lost? NO [Don't think driverless taxis will ever replace all existing taxis. It will be offered as an alternative alongside standard taxis].
What could Singaporeans do if more Singaporeans are retrenched and 55,000 purely Singaporean taxi drivers jobs are lost? ??????
Who gains from introduction of driverless taxis? Mostly foreigners.[Not sure about this]
Who loses from introduction of driverless taxis? Singaporeans.[Not Singaporean passengers. They might benefit cos no more winding down windows to ask for destination, no more hiding for calls, no more change shift Chinatown...haha].
Why till now only trains are the only driverless vehicles being implemented in public places? Because there are no traffic on their path and they are 100% safe as driverless vehicles. Even little traffic on the path commercial planes are deemed as not safe without human control.
Can driverless cars go at 90 km/h safely in all weather? No [ They do not need to go at 90km/h. All weather? Singapore only Sunny and Rainy. No snow, no typhoons, no hurricanes..so no problem].
Can driverless cars handle wheel chairs and weak passengers? No [No problem. Pax will understand beforehand and will help load themselves].
Car driverless cars help with luggages? No [No problem. Pax can load themselves. They will understand. You mean currently, the taxi unker got come out and help meh? hehe].
Can driverless cars handle problems at parking lot gantry points if there are malfunctions? No [New IUs don't need car park gantries. Car parks can be zoned as what is known as Geofencing in the GPS lingo].
Can driverless cars take simple instructions like stop beside the Green Car after the shelter? No [If pax knows it is driverless, they will NOT give such instructions in the first place. Will key in the exact drop off point].
Can driverless cars handle road blockages? No [Yes. Technologically possible with advanced sensors].
Can driverless cars handle all carparks scenarios? No [As mentioned above].
Can driverless cars deal with fare evaders? No [Driverless cars no cash payments. All through credit cards lah like Uber. Alamak].
Can driverless cars be easilly trapped on the road or in the carpark? Yes...you just have to put one cone in front and one cone at the back for it to be trapped.[ Pax are not stupid. They can come out and remove the cones. If got no pax on board and on the way to pick up point, at most no show only wat. Nobody gets hurt. Not like current taxis dun have no show oso...].
Can driverless cars handle the instructions of marshallers at places like hotels and airports? [Why need marshallers. Everything is through call booking. No street hail. Pax cannot give instructions to marshallers instead?]
Can driverless cars handle a situation like lane diversion on expressways (two lanes blocked due to accident) ? [Yes. Technologically possible in the future].
Can driverless cars handle police road blockages and nagvigate through newly created obstacle paths ? No [Yes. Technologically possible in the future].
Will we be left behind without driverless taxis? NO
If there going to be equally good replacement jobs if 55,000 purely Singaporean jobs are lost? NO [Don't think driverless taxis will ever replace all existing taxis. It will be offered as an alternative alongside standard taxis]. So let them implement in their countries successfully first before we decide whether to implement driverless cars.
What could Singaporeans do if more Singaporeans are retrenched and 55,000 purely Singaporean taxi drivers jobs are lost? ?????? Think about what white collar Singaporeans could do if they are retrenched (especially those after the age of 45) or their company say I want you to be stationed in Africa or rural parts of Asia (and they resign because want to be closer to family members and not affect kids lives). Think about potential poverty, selling of current house because unable to service loans, potential increased crime rates, loss of businesses for retail shops, coffeeshops, supermarkets and so on.
Who gains from introduction of driverless taxis? Mostly foreigners.[Not sure about this] Because they manufacture cars in their own countries (or another cheaper country) and R&D mostly in their own countries. If got R&D in another country, it is mostly for show as they want to penetrate those countries.
Who loses from introduction of driverless taxis? Singaporeans.[Not Singaporean passengers. They might benefit cos no more winding down windows to ask for destination, no more hiding for calls, no more change shift Chinatown...haha]. Remember LTA rule for taxi drivers is "cannot reject customers unless during 'end-shift time' ". Probably we could stretch a little and reject people going to cemetery during 2am or reject people who seem like could rape or rob us or seems like carrying explosives and that is it.
But as self-employed, we have the rights not to take calls if we deem it is not in our best interest with the understanding that once we have accepted a call, we definitely would have to take it and must drive all the way there before we could cancer it. [ in other words, if don't want to take that call, don't bid for it and let your peers have the chance to take it]
Why till now only trains are the only driverless vehicles being implemented in public places? Because there are no traffic on their path and they are 100% safe as driverless vehicles. Even little traffic on the path commercial planes are deemed as not safe without human control.
Can driverless cars go at 90 km/h safely in all weather? No [ They do not need to go at 90km/h. All weather? Singapore only Sunny and Rainy. No snow, no typhoons, no hurricanes..so no problem]. Our road max speed limit is 90 km/h. Rain time cut down to 50-80 km/h. Sometimes heavy rain time go at 30-40 km/h. Do we want to put Singaporeans at risk or do we prefer them to perfect their technologies first before we even consider investing lots of money into it? Otherwise the answer in future would be.....right now no choice because we already invested lots of money into it....right now too late to revert back to old system. So best way is "let them implement in their countries successfully first before we decide whether to implement driverless cars".
Can driverless cars handle wheel chairs and weak passengers? No [No problem. Pax will understand beforehand and will help load themselves]. So why LTA (through Singapore Taxi Academy ) made every taxi driver learn how to handle wheel chairs and even video taped us during examination time.
Car driverless cars help with luggages? No [No problem. Pax can load themselves. They will understand. You mean currently, the taxi unker got come out and help meh? hehe]. A lot of times, many taxi drivers got help OK.
Can driverless cars handle problems at parking lot gantry points if there are malfunctions? No [New IUs don't need car park gantries. Car parks can be zoned as what is known as Geofencing in the GPS lingo]. Hello, our country just invested in a lot installing gantries point all over Singapore. Also a lot shopping mall and offices have spent a lot of money installing such gantries all over Singapore.
Can driverless cars take simple instructions like stop beside the Green Car after the shelter? No [If pax knows it is driverless, they will NOT give such instructions in the first place. Will key in the exact drop off point]. It proves that they are not able to handle human requirements (drop off point should be exactly where customers want so that there is minimum walking).
Can driverless cars handle road blockages? No [Yes. Technologically possible with advanced sensors].No currently so let them implement in their countries successfully first before we decide whether to implement driverless cars. [ This one not matter of sensors, this one a matter of machine very stupid requires a lot of instructions fed to it to be able to handle it. Marvin Misky could tell you more about this how long it took the CS world to get a machine to be a little bit "intelligent" ]
Can driverless cars handle all carparks scenarios? No [As mentioned above]. No currently so let them implement in their countries successfully first before we decide whether to implement driverless cars.
Can driverless cars deal with fare evaders? No [Driverless cars no cash payments. All through credid cards lah like Uber. Alamak]. We Singaporeans prefer to handle using cash. Our system (which is not foreign Uber system) does not allow us to know before hand how much the cost is. A person could easilly exit the taxi without paying. When talk about preferred payment method, you as taxi driver knows Singaporeans prefer to pay by Cash. On certain days, you may even get all cash payments. I never had a day of all cashless payments (now that I said this, I may suddenly have a lot of customers going for cashless payments).
Can driverless cars be easilly trapped on the road or in the carpark? Yes...you just have to put one cone in front and one cone at the back for it to be trapped.[ Pax are not stupid. They can come out and remove the cones. If got no pax on board and on the way to pick up point, at most no show only wat. Nobody gets hurt. Not like current taxis dun have no show oso...]. What happens if pretend to hail, driverless taxi stop, then put two cones there?
Can driverless cars handle the instructions of marshallers at places like hotels and airports? [Why need marshallers. Everything is through call booking. No street hail. Pax cannot give instructions to marshallers instead?] You go hotel, casino, airport, Marina Bay Cruise center, need to follow instructions of marshallers or not?
Can driverless cars handle a situation like lane diversion on expressways (two lanes blocked due to accident) ? [Yes. Technologically possible in the future]. No currently so let them implement in their countries successfully first before we decide whether to implement driverless cars.
Can driverless cars handle police road blockages and nagvigate through newly created obstacle paths ? No [Yes. Technologically possible in the future] No currently so let them implement in their countries successfully first before we decide whether to implement driverless cars.
Remember you are pushing for humans adjusting to meet machines limitations and machines eliminating humans rather than helping humans.
What I am saying is we let those car manufacturing countries that stand to gain from driverless cars implement in their own countries first (since they are the ones that really need driverless cars as their taxi cost are too high and they could make a profit from driverless cars) before we decide whether to implement or not.
We can survive without a single driverless taxis in Singapore unlike our manufacturing factories that cannot survive without robots.
Even the universities that want higher university ranking could afford not to research into this sector as our country does not have the industry to support this industry. And this R&D takes money from the people that generates the money and eliminates these that generates the money (COE, rental GST, personal income tax, tax from 5 companies' profits with a hugh amount coming from taxi rental). Remember the unversity ranking thing is only an intangible benefit and not a real benefit.
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Can driverless cars deal with fare evaders? No [Driverless cars no cash payments. All through credid cards lah like Uber. Alamak]. We Singaporeans prefer to handle using cash. Our system (which is not foreign Uber system) does not allow us to know before hand how much the cost is. A person could easilly exit the taxi without paying.
OMG, you never heard of cashless payment? Never heard of credit cards, Apple pay?Masterpass? Are you even a taxi driver? Even bowah's bak bak oso cashless liao..
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Si lor, today, even my sai kong also do internet banking transfer $150 for my 4 hrs job as casket driver. And if you see those younger ones burnt stuff for their deceased, there are hp, bank token with OTP, singpass one key, ....credit cards, tab, pad, etc etc...and here today, we got people alive talking about using cash. Walau..that day, my Chinese bak bak also ask me to book tigerair for her...she transferred money to me, said booking in Singapore cheaper...and we got local here still talking abt cash...walau eh