Haha, everyone entitle their own view and thought, no flaming.......
Today if I'm just a LCP, maybe will have different thought also.......
Things that we see during our service in SAF varies, some see many, some everyday just canteen, canteen until ORD.......
Only hope that if really there will be a day war break out, we bunch of bros can let go everything and defence our this little red dot together, forget about politic, forget about TD.......
Whether weapon is functional or personal equipping is fuck up, our objective is to defence our love one, not just your family members only, anyone that related to you......
Cheers! As an ex WO, I took the oath, everyone did also, FHAG!!!!.......
Originally posted by f1taxidriver:If you look at the kind of candidates pap brings in – talented smooth talking high achievers. That is the kind of people we need to prevent war from ever starting. Most of them are well versed in tai-chi diplomacy. This nation was born through dialogue. It never came about because of a war. Raffles and LKY were not warlords.
Even in saf, its about sar-kar and making the right people happy. I have heard of majors who resigned due to cannot get along with their superiors. No choice what. What if our general upsets a foreign general tio bo?
So to progress up the ladder here, its all about smooth talking and pleasuring others. Never mind your fake degrees and foreign talents as long as there is no aggression and violence. This country will be destroyed if war ever comes to shore. No matter the outcome (win or lose), a war lasting even a few months involving aerial bombing and land attack will result in damage this country cannot recover from.
Thats why its better to be known as a unofficial sex-hub and have ministers ‘prostituting’ themselves by kow-towing here and there to other countries, then to use strong-arm tactics.
Yes I know what pap is up to, and secretly agree with them, but still I will not vote for them.
Correct...people who climb in SAF either are scholars or have served long enough and worked on important special projects. However, those who have opportunity to get close to the people in power had opportunities to show off their talents to them. SAF unit politics less strong than outside as they have an established protocol there. I have seen a non-scholar new Major who quarelled with his superior during NS time and he still rose all the way to BG level.
However, the reason why we have no war is because we have a huge number of solders on paper. Even if someone tries to start a war between Muslims and us, there is no way they could attack using conventional warfare method. How many paratroopers do they have? How many boats and swimming tanks do they have? We have 3000+ armoured vehicles, half a million troops and we manufacture our own ammunitions, big guns, ships and some armoured vehicles. They need to land 1.5 million troops + at least a few thousand armoured vehicles to have a chance. But this is very expensive too as we have to spend $13.1 billlion a year just to maintain the force that employs less regulars (don't count NSFs because they make a lot less than private sector people) than the total number of active taxi drivers. Even if we trim defence budget by 5 billion dollars a year (which is possible and channel it to medical and HDB subsidies or other areas), the imaginary hostile forces still would not be able to attack Singapore.
However, military strength is not only the key to peace.... peacetime actions like helping out during Tsunami is important too.. That is why the person-in-charge of tsunami helping out in Indonesia was asked to join PAP to become Minister.
We got to admit, this day, changing of command like changing underwear like that.......
Today this fellow say coastal hook, the next day, another fellow will say heliborne better.......
But army is not private organization, learn to follow order even they asking you to go Holland......
I still that words, serve your own responsibility, if we want to make decision like General, jolly well go be one......
Maybe many of you guys down here still having that Temasek green thinking, thinking that we just a bunch of paper soldiers......
If you got son or nephews serving army now, go ask them......
The integration of combine arms using high tech equipment exercises is as close as a real war affair, General or COS don't make silly planning like last time, suka suka whole brigade cross the river together.......
Even the DTOC changes a lot over the years.......
Ex Wallaby still on going until today, the scale getting bigger and bigger........
We don't need to shed a blood to gain experience, our commanders don't just sit there and do nothing.......
Overall, don't ever underestimate our forces, becos is make up of you and me.......
Bro F1, you have been worrying too much......
Whatever you mention, rest assure is been taken care of.......
I can't elaborate much, buffer zone is important for concept of our ops......
Don't need to think so hard on this......
The level to know and understand of our responsibility in the forces, mustn't cross over that, although you can say is your right to know but it doesn't apply in our military aspect......
Until today, our DTOC is still forever changing, following the pace of modern warfare, compare to last time till lately, personally I see a lot of different.......
But my level of understanding of our SAF stop at DTOC, further up I'm still ignorant and not necessary for me to know also......
This is what I mean as know your role and responsibility in the forces......
We can discuss, we can talk cock, but we can't provide the answer or solution, becos is not within our level to understand......
tcss until "war" got a chance to come to sg?
i ever told 3 silly ns boy..
until the day they return i.c, there no chance of a war.. gentlemen agreement..
sure, indoes came b4.. now, they still come what..
despite all the billions n still burning, u still can buy marlboro fm indonesia..
I everyday also go war with fellow tds at rd for pax lol
Originally posted by Tcsaaa:tcss until "war" got a chance to come to sg?
i ever told 3 silly ns boy..
until the day they return i.c, there no chance of a war.. gentlemen agreement..
sure, indoes came b4.. now, they still come what..
despite all the billions n still burning, u still can buy marlboro fm indonesia..
Bo leh, I never say war will come leh......
I only enlighten that Sinkie land no more push over like last time, bicycles just ride all the way in, nabey......
Originally posted by bowah:Aiya, some people work for SAF until siao liao,...too many war games until they get hallucinated that war is coming, arbo, you see those siao ON commander, morning morning limpek PCC also call for stand 2..nabey
Nothing wrong to be siao on in order to get promotion......
Better than many who bluff all their way up, sar kar type, no knowledge one.......
Is a blessing to work with a commander who know everything than someone who don't know anything, using your hardwork for presentation......
Originally posted by Keepthechange666:Nothing wrong to be siao on in order to get promotion......
Better than many who bluff all their way up, sar kar type, no knowledge one.......
Is a blessing to work with a commander who know everything than someone who don't know anything, using your hardwork for presentation......
Originally posted by bowah:
Bluff all the way, sar kar and carrying balls are highly skill people hor...those work and work until gong gong then get promoted one up...siao one, not so skillful.
Problem is, it don't work in army leh......
Very soon, go exercise, sar kar eh will have the hardest hit......
When you know nothing, go field no one will help you......
See vocation la......
Cum my unit, you try to be sar kar, bor lang par type, you die faster.......
later we see SAF build an army of robots then how?
Some people are natural balls-lickers. I dun like them, but i also cannot say they r stupid.
Some people are honest type. I like them, but sometimes think they r stupid.
This small country needs every kind of people. It is good to have diversity. Otherwise everyone bo tai bo chi, chut KTC style of FHAG, pa si lang. Also not very good mah.
Originally posted by f1taxidriver:Some people are natural balls-lickers. I dun like them, but i also cannot say they r stupid.
Some people are honest type. I like them, but sometimes think they r stupid.
This small country needs every kind of people. It is good to have diversity. Otherwise everyone bo tai bo chi, chut KTC style of FHAG, pa si lang. Also not very good mah.
Aiya, just remember that everyone is in this world for a reason. Be it good or bad, we still need each other lah...
During election rally u should ask your pap candidate for $1000 to tong mah. Of course they say no. Then u ask for $50 to tong, they also say no. But 70% voted for pap, that means singaporeans agreed to this 'u die your business policy' lor.