Is being too nice a disadvantage??
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Well, some relationship can last for years and some just 3 days, that's life. Whatever happen, do not be too emotional afterall, it is just driving for a living. At any one time, anyone involved in an accident, be it minor dents or big ones (touch wood), the mood will be bad, some are able to control their emotion due to experiences or genetically born with it, but most, will eventually, produce a negative mood, and if hirer keep pressuring down on him, it is going to make matter worst, so at times, we also must understand others and know when is the right time to speak out, how to express it out and finally, how to make him really understand. Humans inter relationship are alway bound by miscommunication and moods including ego and pride. We need to give them some space especially when there our hirer or relief had a bad day driving. Some hirers I met told me so many negative stories abt their relief, and in reverse, reliefs also do the same, that's life, because people tends to talk about their colleagues, everyone of us can be friends and even brothers, but when it come to working together, it can become enemy, even son and father also cannot get along in business, dun talk about relief and hirer partnership. However, most importantly, from a hirer perspectives, you weight the differences, you proclaimed that yr relief have no responsible, black face and so on. Tell me, in your mind, do you really want him to continue as your relief, or you want to end the relationship and start all over again to find another relief that may or MAY NOT be better than him. To hirer, relief is consider a relief for them to take a nice rest, that is why it is call relief, not nos 2 driver or 2nd driver, so, therefore depend on how much you want to give and take, you need a relief, but of course you need to set regulation and rules, and allow certain reasoning if these rules were broken, there must be a threshold that one can take, if relief exceed that threshold, then, it is better to end the relationship. At the end of the day, as said above, relief is to help the hirer in a way for him to rest and yet help to recuperate the rentals, if the relief is cause headache, heart pain and sour mood, then that is not a relief
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Originally posted by Keepthechange666:
Since both of you have partner for 2 years, than why this problem will arise?.....
I thought you should know your partner inside out liao....
Driving a taxi, scratches is unavoidable 1, without scratches than something is wrong.....
In tis 2yrs tis is the 1st time he throw temper
I think he expected me to say no need to repair but I didn't
tats y he not happy
but he fail to appreciate the rentals which I wave off within tis 2yrs wenever he didn't
drive
if add it should be more than the amount he paid for the repair
I think he fail to see open la not me
wahaha
anyway repair done let's see how things go
i suspect he will be more tulan in future bcoz iam gona tell him to pay half rental if he's goin on leave n full rental if absent or inform last min
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Originally posted by j007:
Will company penalise driver on scratches and door dents when u return vehicle?
scratches iam not sure but dents yes
every dent is counted for tats wat I heard
wen I takeover my veh zero dent swee swee I still remember
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bro getcarter, you got picture of dent anot? If got, see others think if need to repair lah..
Dents are quite subjective..to some, it is a scratch. To others, it is a big thing.
Your relief thinks the dent is small, so no need to repair. He thinks why you so neow.
On the other hand, you feel that it is his fault to cause the dent, so he must be responsible, repair it and return swee swee..
So, you and relief have different opinion on this case. No right no wrong. But, you now want to change rules and charge half rental if he go on leave when all along, you did not do it. That will make the relationship worse for sure. It's that simple.
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Originally posted by j007:
My hirer used to tell me, one month two days of half of half rental, third day onwards, pay full shift rental
i think humans always try to take advantage of situation where possible
Standard practice
leave = half day rental
absent & inform last min = full day rental
bro not everyone like tat hor
I was also a relief b4 n I've seen many cb hirers who are worst than me
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Originally posted by Taxilim88:
bro getcarter, you got picture of dent anot? If got, see others think if need to repair lah..
Dents are quite subjective..to some, it is a scratch. To others, it is a big thing.
Your relief thinks the dent is small, so no need to repair. He thinks why you so neow.
On the other hand, you feel that it is his fault to cause the dent, so he must be responsible, repair it and return swee swee..
So, you and relief have different opinion on this case. No right no wrong. But, you now want to change rules and charge half rental if he go on leave when all along, you did not do it. That will make the relationship worse for sure. It's that simple.
paiseh bro never take pic
last yr he bang the same area but the dent not so bad
but tis time he go bang same area again la can u believe?
dent got bigger ofcoz must repair la if he's the hirer would he give in?
not fair right?
if iam the relief I'll auto go repair swee swee n park cab at carpark for my hirer to takeover
n pay the right amout of rental for the day n topup fuel
rather than just dump the cab at wrkshop n ask hirer go collect himself
regarding the rental part I've got no choice la
since he fail to appreciate my kindness so I hv to be calculative like him also la
anyway as I said b4 he's not new bird he should know the amount to pay wen not driving
iam ready for watever outcome
I believe he's in the losing side to lose a hirer like me
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Originally posted by Elginang:
well, as what my hirer says when i used to get the dents from my previous accident. Company will hold him liability if he returns the car, and he's not sure whether when will he returns the key. It can be any time. that's how he told me this in the face, of course no hard feelings but that's life.
When the taxi company loans you the car in one good shape or at least maintains what it's, it's best when you throw the keys back, the car still retains the shape what it was before.
so most of time, when out driving, please be vigilant. but as time goes by, all drivers tend to be more slacked and relaxed....that's where things happen.
if partnership cannot carry on, best look for new hirer/relief.
Bro wat ur hirer told u is right
as a hirer iam responsible for my veh
anything co go after me not the relief
ill hv to pay for the dents
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Originally posted by bowah:
Well, some relationship can last for years and some just 3 days, that’s life.
Whatever happen, do not be too emotional afterall, it is just driving for a living.
At any one time, anyone involved in an accident, be it minor dents or big ones (touch wood), the mood will be bad, some are able to control their emotion due to experiences or genetically born with it, but most, will eventually, produce a negative mood, and if hirer keep pressuring down on him, it is going to make matter worst, so at times, we also must understand others and know when is the right time to speak out, how to express it out and finally, how to make him really understand. Humans inter relationship are alway bound by miscommunication and moods including ego and pride.
We need to give them some space especially when there our hirer or relief had a bad day driving.
Some hirers I met told me so many negative stories abt their relief, and in reverse, reliefs also do the same, that’s life, because people tends to talk about their colleagues, everyone of us can be friends and even brothers, but when it come to working together, it can become enemy, even son and father also cannot get along in business, dun talk about relief and hirer partnership.
However, most importantly, from a hirer perspectives, you weight the differences, you proclaimed that yr relief have no responsible, black face and so on. Tell me, in your mind, do you really want him to continue as your relief, or you want to end the relationship and start all over again to find another relief that may or MAY NOT be better than him.
To hirer, relief is consider a relief for them to take a nice rest, that is why it is call relief, not nos 2 driver or 2nd driver, so, therefore depend on how much you want to give and take, you need a relief, but of course you need to set regulation and rules, and allow certain reasoning if these rules were broken, there must be a threshold that one can take, if relief exceed that threshold, then, it is better to end the relationship.
At the end of the day, as said above, relief is to help the hirer in a way for him to rest and yet help to recuperate the rentals, if the relief is cause headache, heart pain and sour mood, then that is not a relief
Bowah points noted tks for highlighting
me not emotional la just disappointed bcoz of his attitude
anyways can't expect much fm him bcoz he's not my frn just a colleague
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Originally posted by getcarter:
paiseh bro never take pic
last yr he bang the same area but the dent not so bad
but tis time he go bang same area again la can u believe?
dent got bigger ofcoz must repair la if he's the hirer would he give in?
not fair right?
regarding the rental part I've got no choice la
since he fail to appreciate my kindness so I hv to be calculative like him also la
anyway as I said b4 he's not new bird he should know the amount to pay wen not driving
iam ready for watever outcome
I believe he's in the losing side to lose a hirer like me
to be fair, i believe like what after bro Taxilim88 has said. i think it's best to talk to him by person.
Even if you know you may lose this partnership, list down the things you want ( but of course dont charlie makan relief else, which relief will drive for you right ? )
State that because of this thing, cause unpleasant between us so if he's not happy, you can tell him he can look for a new hirer.
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Originally posted by Elginang:
to be fair, i believe like what after bro Taxilim88 has said. i think it's best to talk to him by person.
Even if you know you may lose this partnership, list down the things you want ( but of course dont charlie makan relief else, which relief will drive for you right ? )
State that because of this thing, cause unpleasant between us so if he's not happy, you can tell him he can look for a new hirer.
Yes bro later wen I takeover my shift Iam goin to tell him abt the changes
if he's uncomfortable then he can leave any time or after finding new hirer
ill leave the choice to him
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Originally posted by getcarter:
In tis 2yrs tis is the 1st time he throw temper
I think he expected me to say no need to repair but I didn't
tats y he not happy
but he fail to appreciate the rentals which I wave off within tis 2yrs wenever he didn't
drive
if add it should be more than the amount he paid for the repair
I think he fail to see open la not me
wahaha
anyway repair done let's see how things go
i suspect he will be more tulan in future bcoz iam gona tell him to pay half rental if he's goin on leave n full rental if absent or inform last min
Human brain r ..
For the past one year
Suppose u must give $1/day to A and u r kind give $2/day
Suddenly got one day u only give $1/day
this become yours fault-)
I always make this mistake too-)
Many ppl like to得寸进尺
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When you return taxi, (I'm talking about CDG nia hor).....
Scratches is subjective, most time, they can close 2 eyes, especially those kanna stone hit scratches.....
Of course if you scare, than go do up your vehicles first outside before hand over lor, those "specialist" workshop usually charge 100-200 to touch up all the 5cent 10 cent.....
As for damages, remember, when workshop take over taxi, they calculate part by part 1 hor.....
For example, you got 1 big hole at the bumper, workshop will charge the whole bumper hor, they don't do patching 1, they change the whole bumper 1.....
As for dent, consider minor, unless is very big surface, or else for every dent, they will charge certain amount lor.....
But if your taxi with advertisement, than they won't go tear out and check lor, but the advertisement sticker must be in good condition hor, not cheap if they decided to penalise you for damage advertisement.....
Overall, not that scary la, when returning taxi, we should know ourself what's wrong with our taxi mah, than try to hide lor.....
And only exterior nia, interior no penalized.....
You see, TS already partner with his relief 2 years, should be si beh cum liao except bo go bed together nia.....
So TS can make sure his relief will pay for the damage if 1 day he decided to return taxi, not insist he go repair lor.....
Like what I say, most time, we TD only waiting nia, waiting for what? Touch wood lor, 1 big accident bang from behind or side or sway sway we go bang infront, than while claiming, coy will change everything new part for you lor......
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Aiyo, why go teach people go wait for banging...these are old bird thinking, dun teach the newer one lah, that is why you never get promoted to taxi lecturer like by former chief. diam diam teach people this type of idea...mai lah. Every hirers must know that they are responsible for the whole taxi, being responsible also include risk if they decided to engage a relief. Currently, there are no laws non rules by companies or LTA that relief are also responsible for the cab, just like the recent lemon laws protecting 2nd car buyers. This is sad. Without any protection, the hirer is solely responsible no matter what happen, for companies, it is easier to pin point one guy than many. but relief are also registered under them, so there should be a rules to said that, ALL drivers regardless of hirer or relief, once log in to the MDT, shall be make responsible for any damage to the cab, he shall record, report and paid for the damage if it was deemed to be his fault, and that he shall also compensate his partner with a reasonable sum of money. And please do take note that external and internal damages is chargeable, got some cab with crack panels are also charged
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Old bird thinking????.....
I thought is common sense.....
Aiyo, if new partnership, than of course smlj also must calculate.....
Once TS say partner 2 years liao, my senses also think differently liao.....
Like army, when recruit time, smlj also cannot.....
But when going to ORD, underwear also can borrow....
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Common sense belong to the common people, we TDs leh, not so common, only about 27,000 active ones. And because of all these old birds like you teaching, many TDs go play stunt on the road, purposely brake, jam brake, cut in, suddenly turn in order to make other road users bang into them, and that is also why, many road users like to fark taxis, most end up no mercy with TDs, and that affect those good TDs who go by proper ways and never want to listen to old birds like us TCSS with fark up advices that belong to the 90s and 80s. Army is different, army is a kind of bo bian (no choice) force type, dun tell me you go into army and know who will be your buddy and can choose one meh?? army to most is do and forget, last time they give me an indian gayish buddy, I also tarhan just like you go to work, people working with you are colleagues, not friend, you come together because of earning a living, not because like you and me meet up in kopitiam and beo chio bu and talk about $50 leh. And when you come down to taxi partnership, you hv a choice
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Originally posted by bowah:
Common sense belong to the common people, we TDs leh, not so common, only about 27,000 active ones.
And because of all these old birds like you teaching, many TDs go play stunt on the road, purposely brake, jam brake, cut in, suddenly turn in order to make other road users bang into them, and that is also why, many road users like to fark taxis, most end up no mercy with TDs, and that affect those good TDs who go by proper ways and never want to listen to old birds like us TCSS with fark up advices that belong to the 90s and 80s.
Army is different, army is a kind of bo bian (no choice) force type, dun tell me you go into army and know who will be your buddy and can choose one meh?? army to most is do and forget, last time they give me an indian gayish buddy, I also tarhan
just like you go to work, people working with you are colleagues, not friend, you come together because of earning a living, not because like you and me meet up in kopitiam and beo chio bu and talk about $50 leh.
And when you come down to taxi partnership, you hv a choice
Indian gayish buddy..
Then u masok his hole or the other way round??
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Why must masok hole?? can do blow job mah. Anyway, that time was recruit, knn, seibei tired, where got time to masok hole..especially black hole..phuixxx
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Past few days busy came bk late no time to update
I've spoken to him abt the changes in a polite manner
he said k but his facial expressions n body language like not happy
maybe he'll leave soon after finding new hirer
surprisingly after the repair the next day he went to change new advertisement sticker
normally cdg will send hirer a letter to change advertisement but tis time i never receive anything
wondering how come he was able to go n change
i never bother to ask him also
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Dun alway look at other expression and assume people are angry, as long as he except it, dun even need to look at face. You must not have emotion in hirer and relief partnership, otherwise every day you will think, he happy or not, like not happy leh..end up building a. bad conclusion
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Be simple, dun play emotion or body language, just spell out the regulation, negiotiate, both come into term, just do it. Anything wrong, open your mouth and revisit what was agreed, if gum, carry on, if not, let separate, that $50 still in yr pocket. It is pure earning a living business, you want to make a living, he also wants to make a living, so, lai lai, let discuss it over, have a good handshake and move on.
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getcarter, all boils down to what you going to do.
:)
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Your relief is telling you something.....
以���.....
Money, he have, connection, he have.....
Some old TD is like that 1.....
He don't throw key, but will do other funny funny things to make you guess and wonder.....
Than he shiok liao.....
Arbo pay $140 for nothing, jin tulan 1 you know.....
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Originally posted by getcarter:
Relief go bang cab at carpark
got dented,best part last yr also same area dented by him
but not serious,I close one eye
tis time dent bigger
yesday sms me to inform
say he will pay for repair
today call me come down see whether need to repair or not
saying dent only but paint never out later can cover wit
advertisement sticker WTF?
bumper also got many minor dents by him
but me just chin chai la
told him nicely wat if I wana return cab next time?
whos gona pay? he not happy show black face n go wrkshop for repair
iam so disappointed with his cb attitude
i was never a fussy hirer n he knows tat
even wen he sick or go med appt I never take rental fm him
every yr CNY 4days took leave I also never ask rental
now wana act yao untill like tat.....
30yrs driving experience somemore n wana makan me
now cab at wrkshop not sure whether he will put today's rental or not
best part ask me to go collect cab myself in the evening wen it's ready
i feel sometimes be too nice also not gd wait kena makan
ppl wana test water
I just curious on 1 point, if taxi in workshop why must he pay rental or half rental? The rental deduction the company should deduct from the hirer account. And since he not driving, why or how is he gonna pay rental, never driver because no cab to drive must pay rental? Cannot be right?
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Originally posted by bowah:
Be simple, dun play emotion or body language, just spell out the regulation, negiotiate, both come into term, just do it. Anything wrong, open your mouth and revisit what was agreed, if gum, carry on, if not, let separate, that $50 still in yr pocket.
It is pure earning a living business, you want to make a living, he also wants to make a living, so, lai lai, let discuss it over, have a good handshake and move on.
haha already discuss with him but no handshake la
only see him shake head
wahaha
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Originally posted by Elginang:
getcarter, all boils down to what you going to do.
:)
Bro me gona do nothing just leave it to him to decide
the choice is his
as long everything is in order no prob