Who here is a victim?
me! My company suddenly sent out emails say got dunno what to attend and put there in bold and underlined saying attendance is compulsory. simi sai. I dun attend, they machiam like threaten me this and that. Ok lor. I LL attend lor. I was thinking, since you all (the management) force staff to go, it better be useful. Guess what? the workshop is useless. It's meant for fresh school leavers who want a customer service job. It teaches you how to greet customer, eg in the morning you say good morning, in the afternoon, you say good afternoon etc. I was like OMFG!!
When I wanted to confront HR for wasting my time and my staff's like this, I was told not to waste time. The whole senior mgt is for this cuz they want to take govt's money, the WDA fund and one of the requirement is to clear all the courses within this month. WTF! They so hard up for the $ that they would rather organise a useless lame workshop, pull us away from our actual work and force us to attend, nevermind if we fail our deadline. They need the fund, I need to clear my work too. myself and my team take turns to attend this compulsory useless workshop. If I cannot clear my work in time, then how?
Can I complain to MOM that my company trying to cheat WDA money? They are abusing the WDA thingy leh!
Who else is victim here?
sometimes i wonder if the management knows that they just wasted a lot of money for nothing...
maybe the WDA thing will give them, what? $30 a member of the staff for attending?
but the company just wasted a day of each staff member's wages.. and the productivity involved if they didn't go to the course...
who loses in the end?
Cos you are cheaper than the fund WDA is giving. LOL...
Is that considered cheating govt money or not ah? can lodge a complaint? who should I write to?
Originally posted by the Bear:sometimes i wonder if the management knows that they just wasted a lot of money for nothing...
maybe the WDA thing will give them, what? $30 a member of the staff for attending?
but the company just wasted a day of each staff member's wages.. and the productivity involved if they didn't go to the course...
who loses in the end?
the staff. only the staff. cuz the staff cannot complete the work on time, the culprit management will just blame it on the staff.
So the staff dun attend will kenna. attend also kenna. I feel MOM should step in. After all WDA is to benefit the staff. the staff dun feel benefitted. Don't they have the right not to attend the workshop? Not the first time liao. I so scared my company will run out of workshops to sign us up for, end up sending us to learn how to clean carpets.
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I think the WDA thing is great. My company sent me for $6000 2 week course, and they only had to fork out $600, coz WDA subsidizes the bulk of it if you are singaporean. Maybe if you don't actually gain anything from attendance, you might find it a waste.
the co. still have to pay the course fees rite
just tt it's heavily subsidised
for some courses, the co. will be awarded some incentives if the staff completed/passed the test, such as the english proficiency one (which i dun think applies to u or ur co. )
My boss spend 100k to train on team building, play game!
that company sure earn big and laugh at my boss being a carrot head.
Actually the money from the government is for the workers.
But using the parable, it is better to teach a person to fish, than to give that person a fish. The money goes to the company, or institutions not to the workers. Because the money, say $6000, if given to you, it would be spent. Better send you to a $6000 course so that you would learn something.
But sometimes people after learning how to fish, catch nothing.
Originally posted by FireIce:the co. still have to pay the course fees rite
just tt it's heavily subsidised
for some courses, the co. will be awarded some incentives if the staff completed/passed the test, such as the english proficiency one (which i dun think applies to u or ur co. )
I hope my company dun get so desperate that they force us to go for the english proficiency thingy lor.
they are sickening... need us to fill their quorum, say until they are doing it for us. if we don't go, accuse us for wasting resources. nb. we didn't say we want.
idiot bunch of farkers. now so many of us cannot finish our work cuz of the company wants the WDA lor. hope they die in piss.
Originally posted by mancha:Actually the money from the government is for the workers.
But using the parable, it is better to teach a person to fish, than to give that person a fish. The money goes to the company, or institutions not to the workers. Because the money, say $6000, if given to you, it would be spent. Better send you to a $6000 course so that you would learn something.
But sometimes people after learning how to fish, catch nothing.
if can learn something new and useful, good. I also happy to have that.
but dun have. company still die die force ppl to attend useless things like... how to treat your customer. somemore the trainers dunno whether qualified or not. english cmi one. anyhow flash a few powerpoint slides considered job done.
I hope govt take note of such cases and be aware that they may be wasting money on some companies.
For me, if my company send me to attend certain courses, I will gladly go and take up the course.
Just treat it as a short break and enjoy the course lah.
Get away from the office lah. Isnt it good?
and who is going to cover ur work?
Originally posted by ditzy:I think the WDA thing is great. My company sent me for $6000 2 week course, and they only had to fork out $600, coz WDA subsidizes the bulk of it if you are singaporean. Maybe if you don't actually gain anything from attendance, you might find it a waste.
who pays the extra $5400?
who's the one pocketing the $6000?
If I understand it correctly, the SPUR will subsidise for the payroll.
Read from the online brochure, it says "company receives a payroll subsidy of $1051 for 1 month and needs to only incur payroll of $549 and course fees of $345".
Is that why company mgt force staff to attend courses even though the courses are absolutely useless, pointless and irrelevant?
Originally posted by Honeybunz:If I understand it correctly, the SPUR will subsidise for the payroll.
Read from the online brochure, it says "company receives a payroll subsidy of $1051 for 1 month and needs to only incur payroll of $549 and course fees of $345".
Is that why company mgt force staff to attend courses even though the courses are absolutely useless, pointless and irrelevant?
what about the companies teaching the courses?
if a course cost $6000, government subsidizes $5400, and you pay only $600. it's all good right?
except that the one teaching still gets paid $6000 - and based on the feedback here - some of the courses are downright useless
wait till you realize who are the 'bosses' of these 'teaching organizations'
Originally posted by Zweiz:what about the companies teaching the courses?
if a course cost $6000, government subsidizes $5400, and you pay only $600. it's all good right?
except that the one teaching still gets paid $6000 - and based on the feedback here - some of the courses are downright useless
wait till you realize who are the 'bosses' of these 'teaching organizations'
Let me guess....the owners of the company which hired these teaching organisations
anyway, i think it is an open secret
there is no such thingy as a free lunch