Just how bad can it get?
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My current company...i have been asked by my ex-colleague to join him in the current company...where he becomes my boss
before i joined, he promised me tonnes and tonnes of things...like 3 month bonus lah....eventually i will go into a department that i like...
but know what?
i got to clashed with him to get myself redesignated...that's not the end..i still report to him. All my works go un-noticed. Pple only knows those work of mine came from him.
All was like " wah...a xx dept pple knows some much abt ops, marketing and strategic planning ah"
i was speechless
then came year end...i got bonus that of an average performer, while he got that of a top performer. i resigned to my fate...
just how bad is this going to get ?
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I am not working yet, but I know I will never work with a friend who will be your boss.
It's just not right.
Even relatives. My dad decided to hire my uncle in his company. Then got few office clashes. He resigned. And our family ties strained for many many years.... -
the reason i joined him cos at my previous company, fire is spreading...and i was the next one to be burnt...Originally posted by mhcampboy:I am not working yet, but I know I will never work with a friend who will be your boss.
It's just not right.
Even relatives. My dad decided to hire my uncle in his company. Then got few office clashes. He resigned. And our family ties strained for many many years....
under such circumstances, what would u have done, if u were me?
to jump ship, right?
anyway, after i left, a ex-colleague of mine was burnt...was asked to leave without any compensation...(the person has worked there for more than 5 years liao ) -
i nv like to work for relatives or friends for reasons like this...
or ppl somehow linked to my family...
my uncle was asking me to join his firm but no...
awkward situations might arise like in mos case...
wats more...
i dun like to be given preferential treatment... -
i was not given any preferential treatment leh...as a matter of fact, my works made him shine infront of everyoneOriginally posted by GHoST_18:i nv like to work for relatives or friends for reasons like this...
or ppl somehow linked to my family...
my uncle was asking me to join his firm but no...
awkward situations might arise like in mos case...
wats more...
i dun like to be given preferential treatment...
but i din get the credit -
You shd have a talk with your boss/friend about:
- why you got ave perf appraisal when you have done so much in the work which helped the dept look good (don't mentioned that he took all the credit in case he takes it defensively
- why is he not giving you those bonus, designation, etc. as he'd promised?
Better to have an honest discussion to clear the air, rather than let the matter fester further. If it turns out things aren't working out and can't be improved, it's time to move on, perhaps? -
x2.Originally posted by Wanda:You shd have a talk with your boss/friend about:
- why you got ave perf appraisal when you have done so much in the work which helped the dept look good (don't mentioned that he took all the credit in case he takes it defensively
- why is he not giving you those bonus, designation, etc. as he'd promised?
Better to have an honest discussion to clear the air, rather than let the matter fester further. If it turns out things aren't working out and can't be improved, it's time to move on, perhaps? -
had already...Originally posted by Wanda:You shd have a talk with your boss/friend about:
- why you got ave perf appraisal when you have done so much in the work which helped the dept look good (don't mentioned that he took all the credit in case he takes it defensively
- why is he not giving you those bonus, designation, etc. as he'd promised?
Better to have an honest discussion to clear the air, rather than let the matter fester further. If it turns out things aren't working out and can't be improved, it's time to move on, perhaps?
i went in all planned....cos i know he will get defensive..
i wanted him to evaluate my performance...
but he told me why i got that amt of bonus..and that he fought hard for me blah blah blah...
yah...like very real like that....we worked our ass off to make him look good...what we got in return....little or no increment (i got 0 increment) along with average level bonus...
while he got good and fat increment and top performer bonus... -
Actually no point talking one...if he wants he will give already...no need say one. Besides he'd come up with some lame excuses and more empty promises.Originally posted by Wanda:You shd have a talk with your boss/friend about:
- why you got ave perf appraisal when you have done so much in the work which helped the dept look good (don't mentioned that he took all the credit in case he takes it defensively
- why is he not giving you those bonus, designation, etc. as he'd promised?
Better to have an honest discussion to clear the air, rather than let the matter fester further. If it turns out things aren't working out and can't be improved, it's time to move on, perhaps?
The onlly way is to throw letter...the he will scare if he lose mossie's service and then give him the proper dues...otherwise its better to leave anyway. -
but.... throw letter without a job..Originally posted by Mid9Sun:Actually no point talking one...if he wants he will give already...no need say one. Besides he'd come up with some lame excuses and more empty promises.
The onlly way is to throw letter...the he will scare if he lose mossie's service and then give him the proper dues...otherwise its better to leave anyway.
better not.. ah mos still got family to feed..
bo bian.. need to bear with it.. then find a job and then sack ur boss.. -
Yeah ..tat goes without saying.... mos should find another job 1st and better still cos now job market better.....now its the best time for him to move on or negotiate for better terms.....Originally posted by bluejuice:but.... throw letter without a job..
better not.. ah mos still got family to feed..
bo bian.. need to bear with it.. then find a job and then sack ur boss.. -
urs is friend mine is family mah..Originally posted by Mospeada:i was not given any preferential treatment leh...as a matter of fact, my works made him shine infront of everyone
but i din get the credit
more or less will give a bit of face mah...
but i dun wan lah...
i like the tio gan feelin by others...
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dear mossie, i will lookout for lobang for u
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ah gui like tio gan?Originally posted by GHoST_18:urs is friend mine is family mah..
more or less will give a bit of face mah...
but i dun wan lah...
i like the tio gan feelin by others... -
So i guess u are banned from using the word architorture.Originally posted by GHoST_18:urs is friend mine is family mah..
more or less will give a bit of face mah...
but i dun wan lah...
i like the tio gan feelin by others... -
just hope u can turn the table around one day ......Originally posted by Mospeada:had already...
i went in all planned....cos i know he will get defensive..
i wanted him to evaluate my performance...
but he told me why i got that amt of bonus..and that he fought hard for me blah blah blah...
yah...like very real like that....we worked our ass off to make him look good...what we got in return....little or no increment (i got 0 increment) along with average level bonus...
while he got good and fat increment and top performer bonus...
meanwhile, just stay cool and happy
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cool?Originally posted by InnoHippo:just hope u can turn the table around one day ......
meanwhile, just stay cool and happy
i just had a big fight with him just now
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bye...no mood to do OT in office
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as i mentioned before in my earlier thread. it is strongly not advisable for friends or family members to work together in the same company as colleagues. unless it's a family business, than bo bian.
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=236466 -
aiya mossie......if u decide to stay or go or beat the crap out of him ..dont worry lah...
we all here in sgforum ..will support you one....esp auntie Moonice, Meltz, Bluejuice...they will go "da xiao ren" for you
Cheers and chills ... -
When you work for friends an/or relatives, there's always the possibility of being taken for granted......... So it's beri important that we keep our work lives and personal/private lives clearly separate so as to minimise such bullcrap happening. ........
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Hey, you know what?.. My case is pretty similar to yours.. My boss was my ex-colleague as well. The only difference is that my boss & I are like buddies. Trust is built based on communications.. of any kind.Originally posted by Mospeada:My current company...i have been asked by my ex-colleague to join him in the current company...where he becomes my boss
before i joined, he promised me tonnes and tonnes of things...like 3 month bonus lah....eventually i will go into a department that i like...
but know what?
i got to clashed with him to get myself redesignated...that's not the end..i still report to him. All my works go un-noticed. Pple only knows those work of mine came from him.
All was like " wah...a xx dept pple knows some much abt ops, marketing and strategic planning ah"
i was speechless
then came year end...i got bonus that of an average performer, while he got that of a top performer. i resigned to my fate...
just how bad is this going to get ?
May I suggest that you tell your boss how you feel. It may sound scary, but this is probably the first step to take, if you want things to change. try to create an atmosphere for this communication to happen, say at a pub, at lunch, or whatever that you may deem fit.
Performance appraisals are based on deliverables, and not how well your boss knows you. This is what I tell my guys during their appraisals as well.. If they dun tell me what they want, or aspire to do.. I wun know how to put down good words for them, when it comes to ranking..
Hope this helps, buddy..
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Oops..Originally posted by d3rF:Hey, you know what?.. My case is pretty similar to yours.. My boss was my ex-colleague as well. The only difference is that my boss & I are like buddies. Trust is built based on communications.. of any kind.
May I suggest that you tell your boss how you feel. It may sound scary, but this is probably the first step to take, if you want things to change. try to create an atmosphere for this communication to happen, say at a pub, at lunch, or whatever that you may deem fit.
Performance appraisals are based on deliverables, and not how well your boss knows you. This is what I tell my guys during their appraisals as well.. If they dun tell me what they want, or aspire to do.. I wun know how to put down good words for them, when it comes to ranking..
Hope this helps, buddy..
Think I have repeated what others have already said.. Pardon me for not paying attention.. Anyway, you should know what to do.. -
ur unker wat company? intro me lehOriginally posted by GHoST_18:i nv like to work for relatives or friends for reasons like this...
or ppl somehow linked to my family...
my uncle was asking me to join his firm but no...
awkward situations might arise like in mos case...
wats more...
i dun like to be given preferential treatment... -
the appraisal thingy...i know the rule of the game...i gave all my best...made him shine in the company...made him one of the proud candidates to receive x month of bonus...but i was given an average scoreOriginally posted by d3rF:Hey, you know what?.. My case is pretty similar to yours.. My boss was my ex-colleague as well. The only difference is that my boss & I are like buddies. Trust is built based on communications.. of any kind.
May I suggest that you tell your boss how you feel. It may sound scary, but this is probably the first step to take, if you want things to change. try to create an atmosphere for this communication to happen, say at a pub, at lunch, or whatever that you may deem fit.
Performance appraisals are based on deliverables, and not how well your boss knows you. This is what I tell my guys during their appraisals as well.. If they dun tell me what they want, or aspire to do.. I wun know how to put down good words for them, when it comes to ranking..
Hope this helps, buddy..