I have a guy friend who always use his hp to sms girls(most of them he don't know them) and ask them for sex.
He will say something like "Hi. Want to have sex. I am willing to pay"
If these girls reports to the police and the number is registered under his name, is this considered as sexual harrassement and can he go to jail?
From what u say, the case seems mild so I dun think there will be any trouble. Unless he send threatening SMS then it will be different.
But I am not from SPF nor legal, anyone can confirm?
This is considered sexual harassment. As long as the other party feels insulted by the comments, he/she has a case to report.
Originally posted by Singmarine:From what u say, the case seems mild so I dun think there will be any trouble. Unless he send threatening SMS then it will be different.
But I am not from SPF nor legal, anyone can confirm?
cos now the police have asked him to go for questioning and claims that he will send a report to AGC after that and says that this is a chargable offence. Say what this is outrage of molesty.
Don't know whether is he just trying to scare my friend anot.
My friend never even touch the girls before so what outrage of molesty is there..
Originally posted by s0nic:This is considered sexual harassment. As long as the other party feels insulted by the comments, he/she has a case to report.
But will such a case really go to court?
Seems like a very bo liao case..
Originally posted by 8800:But will such a case really go to court?
Seems like a very bo liao case..
i am not sure if the case will go court or not. but this is a case of outrage of modesty.
just like u walk up to a random lady, and say u wanna have sex with her. she can call the police right away.
u dont have to physically touch someone to be considered abusing. there is another thing called spiritual/mental abuse.
I believe U dun give the whole picture here. There should be something else that your friend has said to the police.
U can advise your friend to apologies to the girl in front of the police if she really feel offended. SMS only mah....just say yr friend mistook her for someone else loh!!!
Anyway I believed it is the girl who go to the police. Let it be a civil rather than criminal litigation case lah.
New law... sexual advances.
Originally posted by 8800:But will such a case really go to court?
Seems like a very bo liao case..
Yes, this case can go to court.
Bo liao, then sit and wait to see how it works out lor.
Why you so gan cheong?
Originally posted by s0nic:
i am not sure if the case will go court or not. but this is a case of outrage of modesty.
just like u walk up to a random lady, and say u wanna have sex with her. she can call the police right away.
u dont have to physically touch someone to be considered abusing. there is another thing called spiritual/mental abuse.
But the police/judge will see the person's motive right?
If my friend send the sms just because he is bored, than even if go to court this is a small case should be nothing will happen pa..
Originally posted by Singmarine:I believe U dun give the whole picture here. There should be something else that your friend has said to the police.
U can advise your friend to apologies to the girl in front of the police if she really feel offended. SMS only mah....just say yr friend mistook her for someone else loh!!!
Anyway I believed it is the girl who go to the police. Let it be a civil rather than criminal litigation case lah.
My friend already told the police that he is bored than he send these sms. He send it to more than 1 girl but only 1 girl reported to police.
Than the police say that it is AGC who will decide whether to prosecute him anot not the girl. The police only do the investigation.
Originally posted by 8800:But the police/judge will see the person's motive right?
If my friend send the sms just because he is bored, than even if go to court this is a small case should be nothing will happen pa..
Its up to him to argue that his intention is not true to his actions. ie the sending of sms.
Otherwise, its obvious your friends actions is directly linked to his intentions.
And his intentions was to ask for sex from random girls which in turns in outraging their modesty.
And in this event, he insuniated that the females are functioning as prostitutes, by telling the girls he can pay.
So you say leh. If this blow big, you want to help him pay his fines and sit in jail for him?
Originally posted by 8800:My friend already told the police that he is bored than he send these sms. He send it to more than 1 girl but only 1 girl reported to police.
Than the police say that it is AGC who will decide whether to prosecute him anot not the girl. The police only do the investigation.
Even one girl is not a girl?
Yes, AGC can decide to persue or not.
But ultimately, if the girl wants to plays this big, AGC will have to comply to her intentions and charge your friend to court and penalise him anyway.
So....wait lor.....
Originally posted by 8800:My friend already told the police that he is bored than he send these sms. He send it to more than 1 girl but only 1 girl reported to police.
Than the police say that it is AGC who will decide whether to prosecute him anot not the girl. The police only do the investigation.
Is weird that your friend confide so much info to you. He should start looking for a lawyer for legal advice instead.....Anyway is your friend mah...no need to get so uptight about the case.
Originally posted by viciouskitty74:
Its up to him to argue that his intention is not true to his actions. ie the sending of sms.
Otherwise, its obvious your friends actions is directly linked to his intentions.
And his intentions was to ask for sex from random girls which in turns in outraging their modesty.
And in this event, he insuniated that the females are functioning as prostitutes, by telling the girls he can pay.
So you say leh. If this blow big, you want to help him pay his fines and sit in jail for him?
This is his first offence. You so sure he won't just get a warning?
Originally posted by Singmarine:
Is weird that your friend confide so much info to you. He should start looking for a lawyer for legal advice instead.....Anyway is your friend mah...no need to get so uptight about the case.
My good friend mah.
AGC haven't even say whether he will go to court anot so now look for lawyer abit too early mah.
And I think can don't employ a lawyer and defend the case by himself?
Originally posted by Singmarine:
Is weird that your friend confide so much info to you. He should start looking for a lawyer for legal advice instead.....Anyway is your friend mah...no need to get so uptight about the case.
Aiyah....you didnt read meh.
This TS is very zai....he always help out stupid policemen in their investigations.
So of course his friends might have think he really know a lot of things mah.
FYI, AGC represents the public interest. If one more female were to show up and lodge a police statement regards to that friend's sms.
Then AGC can take up to persue actively.
But if they decide that one girl report only, small matter, just fine the friend can liao.
And if the girl is still not satisfied that this is enough punishment. Can go ahead and blow it bigger and the AGC will have to go thru this again and fine/jail the friend lor.
Do not assume that just because you think AGC says not the girl make decision, you think its safe.
Frankly, the decision maker is the complainant and the judge.
Originally posted by 8800:This is his first offence. You so sure he won't just get a warning?
Someone rape your mother. Its his first offence. You so sure you only want to give a warning?
Or to put it mildly.
Someone offers to pay your mother for sex.
You prepared to give that fella a warning only?
Originally posted by viciouskitty74:
Someone rape your mother. Its his first offence. You so sure you only want to give a warning?
Is this a rape case?
I will state here one thing first.
I can never be sure what will happen between your friend, the person that lodge a complaint against him or the settlement from the AGC and police investigation.
But I am very sure, that to have your friend be at the wrong end of a punishment, is very very certain.
Originally posted by 8800:Is this a rape case?
Do you know how wide outrage of modesty covers?
Originally posted by 8800:My good friend mah.
AGC haven't even say whether he will go to court anot so now look for lawyer abit too early mah.
And I think can don't employ a lawyer and defend the case by himself? Does your friend know the legal procceedings? From your friend's public conduct, I doubt he can defend himself or worse off make a fool of himself in court.. Maybe just wait for the statement from AGC, pray he is lucky, police will let him off with a warning then close case....no need to think already.
Look at it this way.
Claiming he can pay for sex, but not willing to go to a real lawyer to deal with it.
What is the probability that this friend might have intentions to cheat.
When actually he dont even have the $$$ to go to pay a prostitute first?
Precisely! Who said first offence will be let off. It all depends on the victim whether he/she wanna drop the charges.