any tips in surviving training school?
goin in for march intake.
any special items to bring that will make my life easier inside?
any things forbidden? camera phone allowed? i read somewhere they will confiscate the charger right?
running shoes not provided right?
MANGKOK GUIDE TO SPF ENLISTMENT
Thought since I had some time to kill before going to sleep I'd write this for all the people who are going to enlist in SPF for NS, now and in the future.
Things to bring/wear on enlistment:
- Wear a decent shirt & jeans for oath taking
- A pair of running shoes*
- 10 days worth of underwear and clothing suitable for PT (including socks)*
- Extra jeans in case your No.3/Walk-out attire is issued late
- Singlets (At least 3)*
- Qualification certificates
- Pen & paper
- SHAVER, DEODERANT* & other toiletries
- A basket that you can hang for your toiletries (very important)
- $30 worth of $1 coins (for laundry & drinks)*
- A COMBINATION lock*
- Kiwi & lint-free cloth*
- 8 hangers at least (if you like being neat, if not 6 will do)
- Plastic bags for storing your used clothes (there will be a lot)
- A torch light*
- An extra battery
- Some snacks if you want*
- An iron* (the OB room has, but a lot of demand once you are issued your uniforms.)
- Ear plugs*
* indicates this is not mentioned in the enlistment letter.
_You will not be issued any items for a few days, inclusive of running shoes. If you don't wear running shoes you'll be doing PT in whatever you brought, which is not fun at all. Following the initial issues you will find that you will need to change several of your items, and be without them for some time._
General Information
Surrender all your cigarettes, lighters and chargers. You will be confined if caught. This is not just a threat, it is true. One of my bunkmates is sleeping in HTA on his own right now. Do not worry you will get them back at the end of your _10 DAY CONFINEMENT_
Confinement is for 10 days irregardless of whether you are in prep course or fit squad. There is no such thing as waiting for the fit squad before confinement.
There are partitions in the shower room. You will not be seeing any wild birds.
Every bunk holds 10 men. Do not bring an over-sized bag on enlistment day because you will be issued an SPF bag. You do not want to try stuffing two large bags into your cupboard, because the FIs will expect you to do that.
The FIs in HTA are mostly not unreasonable people. If you keng they will know. At the same time, if you are genuinely ill/injured, they will _most certainly understand._ My personal suggestion is you do not try to keng, or you will be marked and confined if found to be on light duty too many times.
Shave everyday or you will definitely die a horrible death.
The laundry rooms in all coys are generally heavily used at night. If you want to do your laundry at night, get your clothes and dump it on a washing machine. Make sure you wait for the person whose clothes are being washed to collect his or yours willl be dumped on the floor. Alternatively you can wake up at 5 am and do your laundry - my personal recommendation. The machines take $1 coins, as do the drink vending machines.
DO NOT WALK OUT OF YOUR COY WITHOUT PERMISSION. If a roll call is done and you are absent, you can be charged for AWOL. This is NOT a light charge.
You will be punished as a squad. Do not think you can get away with being selfish. You will be punished even if you have done nothing wrong. It is your responsibility to make sure your squad mates do nothing against the rules.
There is a certain way to iron your uniform. The FIs will tell you this but you do not want to be the squad to wait for this to happen. Make sure there are ZERO creases on your shirt or trousers. The lines must be VERY visible. For your trousers make sure the line ends somewhere at the groin area, on both the front and rear.
Choose your bed carefully. Always choose the bed in the middle. Never choose the bed at the end of the bunk because all the dust will collect there. Do not choose a bed near the door because when people go to toilet you will wake up. The bed in the middle is the best because you will always have two fans blowing at you.
Choose your squad IC very, very carefully. If you get an incapable squad IC, be prepared to hear the following very often:
"WHY YOUR SEDIA SOUND LIKE BIRD SHIT!?"
"WHOLE LOT OF YOU TO YOUR RIGHT ON YOUR PALMS DOWN!!"
"TOO SLOW! ON YOUR FEET UP! TO THE LEFT ON YOUR PALMS DOWN!"
"WHEN I SAY DOWN YOU GO DOWN WHEN I SAY UP YOU COME UP UNDERSTAND MANGKOK???"
For the unintiated, "to the left/right on your palms down" means push up position 45 degrees in the specified direction.
I suggest you cut your hair before enlistment. Make sure you cut it extremely short. If you let the barber cut your hair, your hair will stick to your skin and you will feel EXTREMELY uncomfortable before you get to take a bath/wash your hair in the evening.
CAMERA PHONES ARE ALLOWED IN HTA. DO NOT BOTHER BUYING ANOTHER PHONE BEFORE ENLISTMENT.
There is a recreation room in every coy. Use it.
Bring an alarm clock, you will need it.
Coming from a mangkok himself, I hope this guide helps all the future mangkoks enlisting in SPF. If any of you feel like adding to it, go ahead and do so. I should say this is all the information I wish I knew when I enlisted but didn't. All this will make your 10 day confinement and subsequent first few weeks a much more enjoyable time I believe. Cheers!
Courtesy of Natnai
man thanks for the info,appreciate it. hope my life there will go smoothly.
cheers
Ok, how about the water parade? Or was that thankfully removed?
Since when camera phone is allowed in hta? In my SSO course they will confiscate your camera phone and ask you to sign the confiscate form. There will always be water parade but time i'm not so sure cause they change the timing before i post out. Hope will help.
i bring camera phone in HTA for the past 3 years.
who wan confiscate?
sso course different bah... i don't even know what that means...
Station Security Officer if i not wrong (this is the course name)
they are deployed to be sentries @ police installations
i tot that is usually done by the VC ??
Station Security Officers are usually SC.
they need to be armed and they are usually the first line of defence in any situation.
Originally posted by corebooster:Station Security Officers are usually SC.
they need to be armed and they are usually the first line of defence in any situation.
Makes us sound so heartless........
Ya, SSO is the worst posting you could ever get. Somemore mine is the new SSO posting, i been post to SSO-ICA doing the same job as ICA but underpaid.
Checkpoint SSO fuat the world.
Originally posted by kennee:Ya, SSO is the worst posting you could ever get. Somemore mine is the new SSO posting, i been post to SSO-ICA doing the same job as ICA but underpaid.
kenee, what difference that has with NS NPCOs/PCG/SOCs/Staff appointments and rest of the vocation?
We are all given an allowance in return for our service to the nation.
our posting is different since its new so basically everythiny wasn't set up yet, if we need to get any stuff change like boots or what we need to take off day and go police logistic and take. and our pay is confusing we suppose to get SSO allowance after the SSO course but when we get our this month pay it stil traine pay and we go and ask we get a answer of we still on OJT so we can't get the SSO allowance.
Hmmm....You guys need lots of $1/- coins.
I recently changed up to $250 with the guy that was servicing and collecting the $1/- coins from those kiddy rides
(Frack.....so expensive for those rides now. My 3 year old neice was bleeding me dry with those rides.
And cannot say dont let that gurl or nephew (5 year old) have their rides......Thank goodness they are returning to USA soon.)
Anyway, been quite regular see that uncle servicing those rides. At the moment, I am left $150/- of $1/- coins. And they are sitting there n my drawers.
When you guys need to change for them, let me know. I trust I wont charge you bank rates.
are married personnel allowed to stay out during the 9 mth SPO training?
Originally posted by 2wheels:are married personnel allowed to stay out during the 9 mth SPO training?
No. Unless the entire squad / batch is allowed, for whatever reason, to walk out.
Originally posted by corebooster:MANGKOK GUIDE TO SPF ENLISTMENT
Thought since I had some time to kill before going to sleep I'd write this for all the people who are going to enlist in SPF for NS, now and in the future.
Things to bring/wear on enlistment:
- Wear a decent shirt & jeans for oath taking
- A pair of running shoes*
- 10 days worth of underwear and clothing suitable for PT (including socks)*
- Extra jeans in case your No.3/Walk-out attire is issued late
- Singlets (At least 3)*
- Qualification certificates
- Pen & paper
- SHAVER, DEODERANT* & other toiletries
- A basket that you can hang for your toiletries (very important)
- $30 worth of $1 coins (for laundry & drinks)*
- A COMBINATION lock*
- Kiwi & lint-free cloth*
- 8 hangers at least (if you like being neat, if not 6 will do)
- Plastic bags for storing your used clothes (there will be a lot)
- A torch light*
- An extra battery
- Some snacks if you want*
- An iron* (the OB room has, but a lot of demand once you are issued your uniforms.)
- Ear plugs*
* indicates this is not mentioned in the enlistment letter.
_You will not be issued any items for a few days, inclusive of running shoes. If you don't wear running shoes you'll be doing PT in whatever you brought, which is not fun at all. Following the initial issues you will find that you will need to change several of your items, and be without them for some time._
General Information
Surrender all your cigarettes, lighters and chargers. You will be confined if caught. This is not just a threat, it is true. One of my bunkmates is sleeping in HTA on his own right now. Do not worry you will get them back at the end of your _10 DAY CONFINEMENT_
Confinement is for 10 days irregardless of whether you are in prep course or fit squad. There is no such thing as waiting for the fit squad before confinement.
There are partitions in the shower room. You will not be seeing any wild birds.
Every bunk holds 10 men. Do not bring an over-sized bag on enlistment day because you will be issued an SPF bag. You do not want to try stuffing two large bags into your cupboard, because the FIs will expect you to do that.
The FIs in HTA are mostly not unreasonable people. If you keng they will know. At the same time, if you are genuinely ill/injured, they will _most certainly understand._ My personal suggestion is you do not try to keng, or you will be marked and confined if found to be on light duty too many times.
Shave everyday or you will definitely die a horrible death.
The laundry rooms in all coys are generally heavily used at night. If you want to do your laundry at night, get your clothes and dump it on a washing machine. Make sure you wait for the person whose clothes are being washed to collect his or yours willl be dumped on the floor. Alternatively you can wake up at 5 am and do your laundry - my personal recommendation. The machines take $1 coins, as do the drink vending machines.
DO NOT WALK OUT OF YOUR COY WITHOUT PERMISSION. If a roll call is done and you are absent, you can be charged for AWOL. This is NOT a light charge.
You will be punished as a squad. Do not think you can get away with being selfish. You will be punished even if you have done nothing wrong. It is your responsibility to make sure your squad mates do nothing against the rules.
There is a certain way to iron your uniform. The FIs will tell you this but you do not want to be the squad to wait for this to happen. Make sure there are ZERO creases on your shirt or trousers. The lines must be VERY visible. For your trousers make sure the line ends somewhere at the groin area, on both the front and rear.
Choose your bed carefully. Always choose the bed in the middle. Never choose the bed at the end of the bunk because all the dust will collect there. Do not choose a bed near the door because when people go to toilet you will wake up. The bed in the middle is the best because you will always have two fans blowing at you.
Choose your squad IC very, very carefully. If you get an incapable squad IC, be prepared to hear the following very often:
"WHY YOUR SEDIA SOUND LIKE BIRD SHIT!?"
"WHOLE LOT OF YOU TO YOUR RIGHT ON YOUR PALMS DOWN!!"
"TOO SLOW! ON YOUR FEET UP! TO THE LEFT ON YOUR PALMS DOWN!"
"WHEN I SAY DOWN YOU GO DOWN WHEN I SAY UP YOU COME UP UNDERSTAND MANGKOK???"
For the unintiated, "to the left/right on your palms down" means push up position 45 degrees in the specified direction.
I suggest you cut your hair before enlistment. Make sure you cut it extremely short. If you let the barber cut your hair, your hair will stick to your skin and you will feel EXTREMELY uncomfortable before you get to take a bath/wash your hair in the evening.
CAMERA PHONES ARE ALLOWED IN HTA. DO NOT BOTHER BUYING ANOTHER PHONE BEFORE ENLISTMENT.
There is a recreation room in every coy. Use it.
Bring an alarm clock, you will need it.
Coming from a mangkok himself, I hope this guide helps all the future mangkoks enlisting in SPF. If any of you feel like adding to it, go ahead and do so. I should say this is all the information I wish I knew when I enlisted but didn't. All this will make your 10 day confinement and subsequent first few weeks a much more enjoyable time I believe. Cheers!
Courtesy of Natnai
some other things-
never use eye-power whenever an FI is around.
fill up bottles to the brim at least 10 mins before water parade (to avoid getting f*cked, but it would still happen anyway)
never fall asleep anywhere outside your bunk
refrain from shouting in your bunk
do not argue,bargain or complain
those in PES BP squads should NOT buy drinks from the vending machines or bring food in (except some sweets or biscuits)
do not hang your underwear outside
to dry clothes quickly, hang them on the clothesline near the wash area. on a hot day, a soaking wet t-shirt would dry up and be as hot as if it was ironed in an hour
take a bath whenever possible
do not wake up too early (5.10am is the best) ; try to sleep right after night water parade
lastly, don't slip and fall in the mess hall especially if youre wearing walking out attire