Need help regarding domestic law stuff
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If let say i went off to work in shanghai without letting mine parent know..
Is it possible that they play punk and report me 'missing; and get me tracked down ?
Will the police help them?
Im going on mine free will decision and a better future.
What u all think ? -
how old are you?
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Im Over 21
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Yes, your parents can report you missing. They cannot however insist that you be returned to the country if you did file the right form of papers and they were informed. You are afterall, above 21. (As you claimed).
The general public can request to track you down too if you contravene laws, abscon or have broken any contract and so on that you have entered in.
Judgment can be obtained against you, whether you are in Singapore or not.
And the courts can order a trace of your whereabouts to establish whether you are alive, dead and so on after a couple of years and list you dead and distribute your assets to your family members.
You still have work permit, residency, credit issues to work out even if you were to go off to China to work w/o informing your parents.
And for that matter, China takes very dim view of fellas who does not have the required visa, permissions and so on. -
I see..What kind of file and documents should i do in order to have a smooth journey to china ?
Thanks so much..Your info was of greatly valued to me.
Good morning everyone -
One, go get your job first that is posting you to China. The office will handle your work permit, visa for you.
If you are going 'on your own free will'.
Do make sure you have enough '$$$' to apply for your own visa and plan your journey there first.
And take note that airports no longer even allow you to check in your luggage if you cannot produce a return air ticket back from china even if you are going there as a tourist. -
And if you are going away and leaving debts in Singapore.
Your credit standing nowadays is checked internationally.
If you are judged to be bankrupt in Singapore, the other countries can track your credit standing and not offer you any credit facility if you need financial aid in China or any other country.
If it was because you broken the law, the gahment has the option of extradicting you from the other country thru political exchange, or arrest you on your landing back in Singapore or any other country that has extradiction treaty with Singapore. Namely the members of UN and Asean.
Aged parents can also file for support by missing children, bankrupt the child or treat the child as dead and be distributed on the child's assets.
Which either way, can leave the child stateless or penniless in whichever state/country the child is in.
Though it costs money, but hey......where principles are involved. Everything is possible when it really pissed people off. -
Ok thanks alot viciouskitty74
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u will also get charged for leaving country without a valid exit permit.
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do all the necessary documentation that enables you to leave singapore on a permanent basis... if u wan to leave without telling them, option 1) u can lodge a police report with police force.. in the report saying that u leave home voluntary and u dun wish your parents to noe... u wan to put where u wan to go also can... track u down easier ma... so if they wan to go lodge a police report, hope that the officers have some sense to look through the database (that is wat i do whenever i encounter a missing person report) and your report will be churned out only viewable by them (they cannot give your parents due to OSA) and they will tell them that you leave sg voluntary end of story... option 2) even if u leave sg without that report... the officer in-charge will screen through immigration system and they will noe if u r still in singapore or not.. but u will still be "wanted" so when u touch down singapore u will not be in jail but to walk ard freely is abit troublesome as u will spend sometime with airport police settling some lose ends...
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but most probably when touch down is just to record his statement for trace whereabouts mah, and to ascertain the details which you described earlier lah. I don't think it will be too much of a hassle though. Just a short & sharp statement with the necessary details as you have described.Originally posted by ryanking:do all the necessary documentation that enables you to leave singapore on a permanent basis... if u wan to leave without telling them, option 1) u can lodge a police report with police force.. in the report saying that u leave home voluntary and u dun wish your parents to noe... u wan to put where u wan to go also can... track u down easier ma... so if they wan to go lodge a police report, hope that the officers have some sense to look through the database (that is wat i do whenever i encounter a missing person report) and your report will be churned out only viewable by them (they cannot give your parents due to OSA) and they will tell them that you leave sg voluntary end of story... option 2) even if u leave sg without that report... the officer in-charge will screen through immigration system and they will noe if u r still in singapore or not.. but u will still be "wanted" so when u touch down singapore u will not be in jail but to walk ard freely is abit troublesome as u will spend sometime with airport police settling some lose ends...
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I don't understand why you want to run away from your parents? So that you no need to take care of them?
Sigh.... -
Legal consequence of being continuously missing for 7 years:-
Supposing your parents have made every reasonable steps to locate you like advertising notices in the newspapers, etc without any success and seven continuous years have passed, you can be presumed under the law to have "died" so that you could be overlooked in, say, the inheritance of a large fortune, had you been alive.......
Why would you want to hide your whereabouts from your parents so that they worry and possibly have to spend a fortune paying for private investigators and advertising in the newspapers to locate you...... very immature AND irresponsible!
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Wait, wouldn't the government have records if i went overseas...?
So if u go china... tat means u are confirmed overseas... so still can be reported missing? -
Yes.Originally posted by mhcampboy:Wait, wouldn't the government have records if i went overseas...?
So if u go china... tat means u are confirmed overseas... so still can be reported missing? -
haha no la put in his shoes he touch down changi wanna go to where he go / clear immigration fast ma but den get detained wait for IO instructions blah blah blah... to him will be long... the POs its all part of the job afterall they have 12hours of time to play ard esp those from airport...Originally posted by Tiggerific:but most probably when touch down is just to record his statement for trace whereabouts mah, and to ascertain the details which you described earlier lah. I don't think it will be too much of a hassle though. Just a short & sharp statement with the necessary details as you have described. -
haha.. perhaps so. and I agree with the '12 hours to play ard esp those from airport' bit.Originally posted by ryanking:haha no la put in his shoes he touch down changi wanna go to where he go / clear immigration fast ma but den get detained wait for IO instructions blah blah blah... to him will be long... the POs its all part of the job afterall they have 12hours of time to play ard esp those from airport...
but with t3 coming up, maybe they will be a bit busier. -
haha got 2 terminals and budget terminals and u hear the airport guys comment already... i think add a t3 also not much difference... at the most more extra security coverage...
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that means more jobs too.
CAAS needs ex police trained officers. Those interested should just go apply. -
NSF also counted ex-police officers hor??
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tot tis has relations with extradiction rights/law?Originally posted by viciouskitty74:Yes, your parents can report you missing. They cannot however insist that you be returned to the country if you did file the right form of papers and they were informed. You are afterall, above 21. (As you claimed).
The general public can request to track you down too if you contravene laws, abscon or have broken any contract and so on that you have entered in.
Judgment can be obtained against you, whether you are in Singapore or not.
And the courts can order a trace of your whereabouts to establish whether you are alive, dead and so on after a couple of years and list you dead and distribute your assets to your family members.
You still have work permit, residency, credit issues to work out even if you were to go off to China to work w/o informing your parents.
And for that matter, China takes very dim view of fellas who does not have the required visa, permissions and so on. -
I believed she did say its counted.Originally posted by corebooster:NSF also counted ex-police officers hor?? -
It does?Originally posted by newcomer:tot tis has relations with extradiction rights/law?
Please explain.