Why semi-auto pistol not favoured over revolver
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Why is that so, just curious
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revolvers do not leave behind empty catridges.
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I believe its because Singapore policemen will rarely face a criminal wielding a firearm, hence there is no need for the additional firepower. Also, revolvers are supposedly less likely to jam.
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you seem to be looking at it from the criminals point of view.Originally posted by dragg:revolvers do not leave behind empty catridges.
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I agreeOriginally posted by pie:I believe its because Singapore policemen will rarely face a criminal wielding a firearm, hence there is no need for the additional firepower. Also, revolvers are supposedly less likely to jam.
Since when u would see gun fight in recently news??
and when is the last time there is a gun fight??
how many bullets were use.
the number was so low. almost zero -
dont you agree our govt is particular about leaving behind catridges?Originally posted by skid:you seem to be looking at it from the criminals point of view. -
They probably are but if they fire 6 rounds from a revolver and have to reload do you think they're going to calmly put the empty brass in their pockets or leave them lie on the ground til later?Originally posted by dragg:dont you agree our govt is particular about leaving behind catridges? -
er hem....police littering.....Originally posted by skid:They probably are but if they fire 6 rounds from a revolver and have to reload do you think they're going to calmly put the empty brass in their pockets or leave them lie on the ground til later?
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what are the chances of firing 6 rounds?Originally posted by skid:They probably are but if they fire 6 rounds from a revolver and have to reload do you think they're going to calmly put the empty brass in their pockets or leave them lie on the ground til later?
i bet it has never happened in our 41 yrs history. -
FYI, police revolver has 5 rounds.
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i think in terms of power & reliability, the S&W revolver is a better firearm compared to semi-auto ?
Also, I think it prevent a messy situation esp if the firearm is taken over by criminal - i.e. 5 rnds of damage vs 8 - 15 ? if a semi-auto pistol ...
Maybe, if the shell are retained, easier to write report haha ....can account for how many shots fired and why...keke. -
You lost.Originally posted by dragg:what are the chances of firing 6 rounds?
i bet it has never happened in our 41 yrs history.
So when are you buying all of us Kopi? -
S&W has been phased out long ago leh...Originally posted by red_amoeba:i think in terms of power & reliability, the S&W revolver is a better firearm compared to semi-auto ?
Also, I think it prevent a messy situation esp if the firearm is taken over by criminal - i.e. 5 rnds of damage vs 8 - 15 ? if a semi-auto pistol ...
Maybe, if the shell are retained, easier to write report haha ....can account for how many shots fired and why...keke.
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Yup. The standard issue now is the Taurus.
Btw, 1 round from the revolver is enough to bring one man down. serious.
Compared to a 9mm, u prolly need to pump in more shots.
Its enough for the moment. Several units in the SPF do use 9mms but for the standard issue, a revolver is enough.
To me, its
1) Easier to maintain.
2) Easier to reload.
3) More reliable and safer than a pistol. -
I beg to differ on the 9mm bullets part.
Any weapon, be it a low caliber 0.22 to a 9mm.
Can bring a man down with one shot. If you know where to aim.
IPSC Shooting in Singapore practise the double tap method where your target requires as least 2 rounds on that target.
You basically kill the man twice. One to bring him down, two to make sure he mati mati confirm plus chop.
I am rekindling my hobby for shooting soon. -
Errrrmmm....I always calmly tilt the empty cartidges into my palms, irrespective how hot they are and put them in my pocket or on a surface.Originally posted by skid:They probably are but if they fire 6 rounds from a revolver and have to reload do you think they're going to calmly put the empty brass in their pockets or leave them lie on the ground til later?
If I runs out of rounds....still at least can throw the empty cartidges at the target. -
Wandering bout this...when you fire off, the cartridges would have expanded right? Doesn't it make the reloading more difficult as compared to mags, where you just eject the mag, slip a new one in and close the slide and you can carry on. The experience with a revolver I had was when I was the starter's assistant in Sec.Sch, the starting pistol is a revolver (god knows where the school gets it from and blank cartridges), the starter was having difficulties ejecting the expended blanks each time, despite pushing the plunger. And had to use something to like dig it out. Btw, what sidearm is the SOC using? Seems to be Glocks.
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Technically, when the bullet fires off, it generates heat. that heat would have been transmitted to the gun barrels also.Originally posted by SpecOps87:Wandering bout this...when you fire off, the cartridges would have expanded right? Doesn't it make the reloading more difficult as compared to mags, where you just eject the mag, slip a new one in and close the slide and you can carry on. The experience with a revolver I had was when I was the starter's assistant in Sec.Sch, the starting pistol is a revolver (god knows where the school gets it from and blank cartridges), the starter was having difficulties ejecting the expended blanks each time, despite pushing the plunger. And had to use something to like dig it out. Btw, what sidearm is the SOC using? Seems to be Glocks.
The problem: you guys got clean the gun and oil it or not?
Weapons with mags? ever heard of jammed gun?
or those who has been to the army. what is IA? -
Ya, I know weapons which are mag-fed can IA too.But its easy to clear isn't it?Take the M16, if you clear the proper way, you remove the mag and pull the charging handle to eject the round before reloading,charging and carrying on.Originally posted by viciouskitty74:Technically, when the bullet fires off, it generates heat. that heat would have been transmitted to the gun barrels also.
The problem: you guys got clean the gun and oil it or not?
Weapons with mags? ever heard of jammed gun?
or those who has been to the army. what is IA?
But what I'm talking about is for revolvers, have anyone experienced it? The rounds like kena jammed in the cylinder causing problems in ejecting the expended cartridges? -
Yes, it does happen sometimes. Happened to me twice with a Smith & Wesson but nil with a Taurus. Probably has something to do with the way they are maintained.
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Happens to me at a competition. broke my nail trying to push down the plunger to remove the empty shells.Originally posted by SpecOps87:Ya, I know weapons which are mag-fed can IA too.But its easy to clear isn't it?Take the M16, if you clear the proper way, you remove the mag and pull the charging handle to eject the round before reloading,charging and carrying on.
But what I'm talking about is for revolvers, have anyone experienced it? The rounds like kena jammed in the cylinder causing problems in ejecting the expended cartridges?
Still, I think its how it was maintained. Clean out elephants thoroughly and oiling it before and after use is essential. -
Wow...admirable that you use a revolver for competition. Is it IPSC? If so, its really admirable.Originally posted by viciouskitty74:Happens to me at a competition. broke my nail trying to push down the plunger to remove the empty shells.
Still, I think its how it was maintained. Clean out elephants thoroughly and oiling it before and after use is essential.
Anyway,just curious,anyone experienced with those revolvers which can hold like 7 rounds instead of the usual 5/6 rounds? -
Most prob is normal SPF shooting comp lah..
Speaking of shooting comps, shit bloody hell I missed the application for the NPCC Officers' .38 shoot
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Gun borrowed from Singaproe sports council who in turn are licensed by SPF.
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Nope. .38 revolver for SPF's mini shooting competition. Long Long time ago!Originally posted by SpecOps87:Wow...admirable that you use a revolver for competition. Is it IPSC? If so, its really admirable. Anyway,just curious,anyone experienced with those revolvers which can hold like 7 rounds instead of the usual 5/6 rounds?
IPSC, I used pistol.
7 rounds? Nope, never, let me see if i can find some details about it.