VSC Killed while on duty
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I know that it's not nice to describe someone a guard dog.Originally posted by viciouskitty74:I do know I was talking about a guard dog.
Do you know this guard dog who rather has his own troop take the image of cowards then to come up front and proudly proclaims who and what he is?
It is absolutely immature to do that. -
Maturity is for those who counts, not for yipping puppies.
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actually road block got SOP one...but now i say oso Ma Hou Pao cos its done and done with liao...Originally posted by M©+square:Ya...
But what happened?
How come road black set up kanna this accident?
always place the road block sign at a distance where the driver can see from a distance and how, where u stand also matters...dun let ur guard down until the vehicle is stationary cos wait he kee tao hong step Gas then cham...always wear the reflective gloves and wave wave...cos if u dun wave...the driver maynot be able to see the reflected light...a moving thing always catches more attention...and the uniform camoflage cos the road is black and sky is dark...blinkers oso play a part.....using torch to 'pa signal' by on-off-on-off oso can.....
this is all basic knowledge, come across roadblock sure can notice so i not revealing anything covered under OSA.
roadblock very dangerous one....dun play play dats y be mada very dangerous, anytime ur life can be taken away...no rehearsal one...no 2nd chance no retry no repeat..... -
Will there be any special wake service for the officer?
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I came to this forum and saw that this page had four pages of replies. Was initially heartened, until I read the contents.
This is no different from strangers picking fights with each other over someone else's coffin. How very "mature" and "well brought up" indeed, and I am all the more saddened for the deceased.
vicious, if you believe that VSCs contribute more to national security than specific groups here, then I would certainly love to see you contributing less to this forum and more constructively to society. The level of hypocrisy here is astounding. I wonder how someone could sing praises of an organisation, yet back stab it at the same time without feeling a tinge of remorse.
Reading comments made above by a fellow VSC member gives me great embarrasement. No wonder VSCs are still having problems intergrating into the force, even if it dates back 60 years, or is part of the Home Team. Nice words...on paper only apparantly. In practise its an entirely different world altogether.
And yes, if I do have a problem, I would probably call that number you sent to me via PM. But what problem would I have to call you? Tell you to at least behave your age, know the value of humbleness and humility, and give due respect to your peers as much as you wish others to give them to you? Stop assuming that respects comes just by telling others you have touched every weapon on the planet, and has white hair long before others are still swimming in liquid?
Serious...so what? Do others care?
So, I dont care who you are, and I dont care who I am either, but please give due respect to this man and would all please quit polluting this thread with this kind of gabbage. Enough is enough. -
I do hope there is. The problem is VSCs dont contribute to the police welfare fund, and hence are theratically not entitled to all those pomp and ceremony usually accorded to other officers. At least this is what my peers in my div told me. I hope this arent true.Originally posted by Pitot:Will there be any special wake service for the officer?
This man is the second in the history of VSC to die on duty...the first being killed during the Hock Lee Bus Riots donkey years ago. There is therefore little precedent to follow, although at the same time, it may allow for exceptions to be made.
Lets hope his contributions and sacrifice will be duly recognised by the state. -
There does appear to be a general lack of compliance with the relevant SOP, although I suppose these high profile accidents will hopefully lead to sustained enforcement of these regulations. It was only a few months ago that I was told reflective vests are compulsory when doing roadblocks in my NPC, for example.Originally posted by chunyong:actually road block got SOP one...but now i say oso Ma Hou Pao cos its done and done with liao...
always place the road block sign at a distance where the driver can see from a distance and how, where u stand also matters...dun let ur guard down until the vehicle is stationary cos wait he kee tao hong step Gas then cham...always wear the reflective gloves and wave wave...cos if u dun wave...the driver maynot be able to see the reflected light...a moving thing always catches more attention...and the uniform camoflage cos the road is black and sky is dark...blinkers oso play a part.....using torch to 'pa signal' by on-off-on-off oso can.....
this is all basic knowledge, come across roadblock sure can notice so i not revealing anything covered under OSA.
roadblock very dangerous one....dun play play dats y be mada very dangerous, anytime ur life can be taken away...no rehearsal one...no 2nd chance no retry no repeat.....
Whatever the case, this accident instantly reminded me of an incident only about a week ago. While manning a routine road block, a huge truck rumbled on at high speed with no signs of stopping or filtering to the left lane towards us. I was standing in the middle of the road with nothing between me and the on-coming truck except for the tiny blinkers on the road.
My regular partner screamed for me to scram to one side of the road while he jumped to the other side, then yelled for our other two officers to get out of the patrol cars in the path of the truck. I will remember the scene of the truck suddenly screaching to a halt inches away from the blinkers, smoking burned rubber tires and all for quite some time.
Turned out the driver fell asleep and woke up only at the last moment on seeing the blinkers on the patrol cars. Cant imagine whats gonna happen if he continued sleeping... -
car boot should have the vest and gloves....on-off torchlight to pa signal oso a must if u treasure ur life...Originally posted by huaiwei:There does appear to be a general lack of compliance with the relevant SOP, although I suppose these high profile accidents will hopefully lead to sustained enforcement of these regulations. It was only a few months ago that I was told reflective vests are compulsory when doing roadblocks in my NPC, for example.
Whatever the case, this accident instantly reminded me of an incident only about a week ago. While manning a routine road block, a huge truck rumbled on at high speed with no signs of stopping or filtering to the left lane towards us. I was standing in the middle of the road with nothing between me and the on-coming truck except for the tiny blinkers on the road.
My regular partner screamed for me to scram to one side of the road while he jumped to the other side, then yelled for our other two officers to get out of the patrol cars in the path of the truck. I will remember the scene of the truck suddenly screaching to a halt inches away from the blinkers, smoking burned rubber tires and all for quite some time.
Turned out the driver fell asleep and woke up only at the last moment on seeing the blinkers on the patrol cars. Cant imagine whats gonna happen if he continued sleeping...
want to be a cop who follow SOP is hard...but some stuff u cannot neglect, especially when it matters ur life and ur partner's. -
Agreed. Complacency is our biggest enermy here.Originally posted by chunyong:car boot should have the vest and gloves....on-off torchlight to pa signal oso a must if u treasure ur life...
want to be a cop who follow SOP is hard...but some stuff u cannot neglect, especially when it matters ur life and ur partner's.
Of coz I am not suggesting this is the case of the specific accident which occured early this morning. There isnt much info on the circumstances to form any kind of judgement as yet, and to be honest, I do hope deep down inside that the driver is completely at fault!
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Any self remedy to the SOP u all have? Like for example using ur flashlight like what Chunyong said.
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dun quote me hor and i think all the NPCOs using torch to pa signal...its unofficial SOP lah..Originally posted by Pitot:Any self remedy to the SOP u all have? Like for example using ur flashlight like what Chunyong said.
there is also the lightstick for us to use...like a scaled down version of Starwar's Lightsabre...we call it lightsabre...hahahaha.. think u all have seen lah, vermillion coloured one...
but if the driver is asleep then oso bo bian.. -
wah.. den nothing to physically stop the vehicle from coming towards you.. damn dangerous.. unless they install those impact cushions on the back of the van like those on the back of those big vehicle wan..
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flee lor...only way outOriginally posted by Pitot:wah.. den nothing to physically stop the vehicle from coming towards you.. damn dangerous.. unless they install those impact cushions on the back of the van like those on the back of those big vehicle wan.. -
I just came from the wake.
Huawei, and I still say you dont have any idea what you were talking about.
You want the actual scenerio. You are welcome to call me.
Otherwise, kindly do not pollute this thread with your posting of what you and your fellow officers experienced that show off your inabilities to understand what the SOP is about. -
Again. If you do not know anything. Kindly do not assume and post out here for others to laugh at.Originally posted by huaiwei:I do hope there is. The problem is VSCs dont contribute to the police welfare fund, and hence are theratically not entitled to all those pomp and ceremony usually accorded to other officers. At least this is what my peers in my div told me. I hope this arent true.
This man is the second in the history of VSC to die on duty...the first being killed during the Hock Lee Bus Riots donkey years ago. There is therefore little precedent to follow, although at the same time, it may allow for exceptions to be made.
Lets hope his contributions and sacrifice will be duly recognised by the state. -
Yes.Originally posted by Pitot:Will there be any special wake service for the officer?
For procedures, you can contact your MPO.
Regards to politics. Certain officers from certain divisions is objecting to the special wake service.
We are still fighting to give the officer his due which we routinely fight to provide even for officer's family members deaths. -
It was.Originally posted by huaiwei:..........., I do hope deep down inside that the driver is completely at fault! -
Originally posted by huaiwei:
Be thankful your regular is quick enough to screamed at you. Be thankful that you learnt a lesson from it.
Whatever the case, this accident instantly reminded me of an incident only about a week ago. While manning a routine road block, a huge truck rumbled on at high speed with no signs of stopping or filtering to the left lane towards us. I was standing in the middle of the road with nothing between me and the on-coming truck except for the tiny blinkers on the road.
My regular partner screamed for me to scram to one side of the road while he jumped to the other side, then yelled for our other two officers to get out of the patrol cars in the path of the truck. I will remember the scene of the truck suddenly screaching to a halt inches away from the blinkers, smoking burned rubber tires and all for quite some time.
Turned out the driver fell asleep and woke up only at the last moment on seeing the blinkers on the patrol cars. Cant imagine whats gonna happen if he continued sleeping...
The roadblock team in question wasn't newbies at this. They faced this danger every week, per their duty nights. Don't assume that only you have had fellow patrol mates down and this is a unique experience.
It may be first and unique to you. Not to us. -
Are you privy to the PM I had received from the young men here or you just telling me how much you assumed?Originally posted by huaiwei:I came to this forum and saw that this page had four pages of replies. Was initially heartened, until I read the contents.
This is no different from strangers picking fights with each other over someone else's coffin. How very "mature" and "well brought up" indeed, and I am all the more saddened for the deceased.
vicious, if you believe that VSCs contribute more to national security than specific groups here, then I would certainly love to see you contributing less to this forum and more constructively to society. The level of hypocrisy here is astounding. I wonder how someone could sing praises of an organisation, yet back stab it at the same time without feeling a tinge of remorse.
Reading comments made above by a fellow VSC member gives me great embarrasement. No wonder VSCs are still having problems intergrating into the force, even if it dates back 60 years, or is part of the Home Team. Nice words...on paper only apparantly. In practise its an entirely different world altogether.
And yes, if I do have a problem, I would probably call that number you sent to me via PM. But what problem would I have to call you? Tell you to at least behave your age, know the value of humbleness and humility, and give due respect to your peers as much as you wish others to give them to you? Stop assuming that respects comes just by telling others you have touched every weapon on the planet, and has white hair long before others are still swimming in liquid?
Serious...so what? Do others care?
So, I dont care who you are, and I dont care who I am either, but please give due respect to this man and would all please quit polluting this thread with this kind of gabbage. Enough is enough.
To behave my age. I have every right to tell you off for being young, immature and definitely with an ego not filled enough with experience but youthful hot air.
To behave my station, I would tell you. Stop assuming and call and get your facts right before you embaress yourself any further. Especially on the lack of your actual understanding of your training and the realities on the patrols.
And for one that is meant to be a VSC. YOu certainly arent that concern that VSC are being put down in favour of other HOme Team Units and happily supporting that the other Home Team units are superior then the VSC.
Since you dont have the heart for the VSC, why waste your time? So that you can brag to the girls that you hold a warrant card? You might as well join the other Home Team and contribute more.
And about me on this forum? You didnt seem to have grasp the notion that it was posted via office hour. But then.....who knows....maybe you didnt have to work and post in this forum during office hour and can perform more duties during day time. -
It would seem, that air horns will be useful.Originally posted by Pitot:Any self remedy to the SOP u all have? Like for example using ur flashlight like what Chunyong said. -
Did you or the regulars reported the incident and fight for better facilities to be used that could have prevented the recent event where a VSC died.Originally posted by huaiwei:Whatever the case, this accident instantly reminded me of an incident only about a week ago. While manning a routine road block, a huge truck rumbled on at high speed with no signs of stopping or filtering to the left lane towards us. I was standing in the middle of the road with nothing between me and the on-coming truck except for the tiny blinkers on the road.
My regular partner screamed for me to scram to one side of the road while he jumped to the other side, then yelled for our other two officers to get out of the patrol cars in the path of the truck. I will remember the scene of the truck suddenly screaching to a halt inches away from the blinkers, smoking burned rubber tires and all for quite some time.
Turned out the driver fell asleep and woke up only at the last moment on seeing the blinkers on the patrol cars. Cant imagine whats gonna happen if he continued sleeping... -
imagine 2am roadblock....then u see those residents will lodge a complain to the CO anot.... sometimes really bo bian one lah....its a risk POs have to take....Originally posted by viciouskitty74:It would seem, that air horns will be useful.
so next time u see a PO, remember he is risking his life to make sure u dun have to. -
And to contradict Hua Wei again.
The reflective vest was compulsory for any nite duties as early as 1999.
What do you mean you only know of it a few months ago?
Am I 'wowing' you with the things I touched or weapons or protection I've known yet? If you were being objective. Would that comments has turned up as immature or just pure important? -
I do remember. And I do appreciate. Therefore I still do what I do.Originally posted by chunyong:imagine 2am roadblock....then u see those residents will lodge a complain to the CO anot.... sometimes really bo bian one lah....its a risk POs have to take....
so next time u see a PO, remember he is risking his life to make sure u dun have to.
And if anything. I would not allow for anyone, anything and anybody sullied what I truly respect. And that includes telling off newbies or young ones who thinks they do know a lot when they know shitz and endanger the rest of the people. -
It is never worth the risk of some residents good night sleep to the lives and injuries of any officer on the ground???Originally posted by chunyong:imagine 2am roadblock....then u see those residents will lodge a complain to the CO anot.... sometimes really bo bian one lah....its a risk POs have to take....
so next time u see a PO, remember he is risking his life to make sure u dun have to.