Entering SPF for NS - need advice
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Hi,
i am about to serve my NS but i was told that i will be serving my 2 years NS in the Singapore Police Force.
Can anyone tell me why is it like this? 
I studied overseas and is carrying a cert that is equivalent to an A level cert.
Anyone mind telling me what to expect for the 2 years?
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gd lucks on entering the SPF for your NSF life ....Originally posted by proteinz:Hi,
i am about to serve my NS but i was told that i will be serving my 2 years NS in the Singapore Police Force. Can anyone tell me why is it like this?
I studied overseas and is carrying a cert that is equivalent to an A level cert.
Anyone mind telling me what to expect for the 2 years?
thanks
In the army 2 yrs is for enlisted men ranked below corporal.
From what i here from frens police initial 6 mths training is quite ok.
But they say once u post out is quite tiring with long hours and shift werk.
gd luck -
PNS not really bad wad.
Can let you see wad you dont see.
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everywhere is siong...
life wnld't be fun if you know what wld happend next
take it
and live with it -
Do wat the PGO tells u to do, anything not mentioned inside dun do....
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trust me.
It'll be fun. -
OMG! did you know that you are lucky to get into SPF? Its better than running all day with damn heavy weapon and stinK!!! Lol!! If you still worry i guess there is nothing we can do! Everyone worries! If u listen to wat you are supposed to do no harm will come to you! Lol!Originally posted by proteinz:Hi,
i am about to serve my NS but i was told that i will be serving my 2 years NS in the Singapore Police Force. Can anyone tell me why is it like this?
I studied overseas and is carrying a cert that is equivalent to an A level cert.
Anyone mind telling me what to expect for the 2 years?
thanks
Eh your cert erm... equivalent to "A" level wat cert!! Lol!
get your help here!
http://www.htns.com.sg/spf/main/spf_index.jsp
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oh... my cert is a trinity college cert from melbourne... i have also received offer letter from University of Melbourne. Is it possible to disrupt a few months after entering to further my studies at University before coming back to finish up the rest of the 2 years?
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Hmm, I thought NS has been reduced to 2 years for everyone now?Originally posted by Archtomato:gd lucks on entering the SPF for your NSF life ....
In the army 2 yrs is for enlisted men ranked below corporal.
From what i here from frens police initial 6 mths training is quite ok.
But they say once u post out is quite tiring with long hours and shift werk.
gd luck
Anyway, to proteinz, did you get posted to SPF after BMT? That's usually a sign that you'll end up in Police OCS. Otherwise, you'll probably end up being a corporal.
Which i heard, is damn routine and boring.
But anyway, it is my opinion that everybody experiences NS in a different light. So dont' worry so much and just do i tman! -
i am going straight into the police force without going through BMT... does that means i have completely no chance of entering the OCS in police?
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Police OCS is only for those who went thru BMT. Though non-sensical but it's the sad fact, anyway training in TRACOM is fun but when you are out, ya PNSFPO will ask you where's ya preference, so if u want to do paper work, then ya lor if not, go for patrol...very exciting !!
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Izzit??!! Let's say if I sign on with the SPF after my 'A' levels with the direct sergeant enlistment scheme... would it be possible for me to cross over to SPO training if I perform very well in TRACOM....???Originally posted by Execboy:Police OCS is only for those who went thru BMT. Though non-sensical but it's the sad fact, anyway training in TRACOM is fun but when you are out, ya PNSFPO will ask you where's ya preference, so if u want to do paper work, then ya lor if not, go for patrol...very exciting !!
BTW, kinda interested in the PTU... anyone can enlighten me on their job scope, how to join them and the selection requirements...?? thanks
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Uh,Originally posted by Prestroz:Izzit??!! Let's say if I sign on with the SPF after my 'A' levels with the direct sergeant enlistment scheme... would it be possible for me to cross over to SPO training if I perform very well in TRACOM....???
BTW, kinda interested in the PTU... anyone can enlighten me on their job scope, how to join them and the selection requirements...?? thanks
I don't personally know of anyone who has entered Police OCS from TRACOM.
Also, once you get your sgt rank, it's not likely to cross over at any point in time anymore. I don't know how SPF works, but the only chance you get to cross over to OCS in the army is in BSLC or ASLC, ie: before you get your 3sg rank.
I'm not too sure about this, but that only applies for NSF. I knew some dude who signed on with Provost in NP, and was told that he couldnt' cross over to OCS in BMT.
But do remember, my sources are all hearsay. Verify and check things out for yourself, though I htink you're unlikely to receive a definitive answer given the way SAF operates.
Once again, dont' worry! Just do it! -
1. PNS Enlistees will have the chance to go to Police OCS, where you pass out as NSPI. [ Which ONLY does staff work as far as i know. Boring. ]
2. You could sign on as a JO [Junior Officer: Cpl/SSgt etc] and be promoted to a SO [ Senior Officer: Inspector, DSP etc.]. However, You will need a degree and also it's only a handful that gets selected for the SO course.
You will pass out as a JO and will need at least 5[?] years of experience to be considered for the SO Course.
Anyway, being in SPF for NS is interesting. Although signing on to be a regular is another thing altogether...
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NSPI serve their 3 mths BMT with SAF, then they serve their 'OCS' in SPF as NSPI. hope dat clears the doubt....
y u wanna sign on ? if u have considered twice then considered thrice....just keep considering and dun sign on.... -
There will be a batch of SC(Direct Entry PNSF) who may have the chance to get to OCT squad... Only selected few of the cohort!! Its usually the best A level and dip trainees who will get the opportunity!!! So well good luck to you!Originally posted by proteinz:i am going straight into the police force without going through BMT... does that means i have completely no chance of entering the OCS in police? -
Haha... why not sign on??Originally posted by chunyong:NSPI serve their 3 mths BMT with SAF, then they serve their 'OCS' in SPF as NSPI. hope dat clears the doubt....
y u wanna sign on ? if u have considered twice then considered thrice....just keep considering and dun sign on....
seems like people here are giving the same advice... whether it's the SAF, SPF or SCDF... so wat's really the problem of embarking a career with uniform organisations??
I'm seriously considering a police career... but I'm facing a dilemma.
I'm taking my 'A' levels at the end of the year, If I don't sign on now, It'll be a waste of time if I didn't qualify for uni and have to serve the SAF for 2 years b4 going SPF... however, if I sign on now, I'll only become a SGT and it'll be a waste if my results eventually qualify for uni... someone pls advice?? -
sign on when u got ur degree !!!!!!
or else u will regret
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the problem with embarking a career with uniform organisations, is that your life will always remain the way it is.Originally posted by Prestroz:Haha... why not sign on?? seems like people here are giving the same advice... whether it's the SAF, SPF or SCDF... so wat's really the problem of embarking a career with uniform organisations??
I'm seriously considering a police career... but I'm facing a dilemma.
I'm taking my 'A' levels at the end of the year, If I don't sign on now, It'll be a waste of time if I didn't qualify for uni and have to serve the SAF for 2 years b4 going SPF... however, if I sign on now, I'll only become a SGT and it'll be a waste if my results eventually qualify for uni... someone pls advice??
Non of the 3 organizations that i know of has any real excitement to it. Sign on, get promoted to major, retire as a ltc, a colonel if you're lucky.
of course, if you're happy with a 3.x k *max* pay (subject to inflation) and free health coverage, by all means go ahead. The job stability is immeasurable. It sure beats being jobless, down and out on your luck when you get retrenched at 35.
btw, if you're not confident about taking your a levels and getting into at least arts or some other low-entry course, you're really just wasting your time with a levels. go do a diploma or something man. and yah, there's an invisible glass ceiling for poly grads. your pay scale will be different too. those are stuff that you might want to consider as well. -
Do diploma???!!! I'm taking my 'A' levels in three months time leh... furthermore my grades are not that bad either... the best would make it to a Uni, the worse maybe just getting a full 'A' level cert... hahaOriginally posted by nomood:the problem with embarking a career with uniform organisations, is that your life will always remain the way it is.
Non of the 3 organizations that i know of has any real excitement to it. Sign on, get promoted to major, retire as a ltc, a colonel if you're lucky.
of course, if you're happy with a 3.x k *max* pay (subject to inflation) and free health coverage, by all means go ahead. The job stability is immeasurable. It sure beats being jobless, down and out on your luck when you get retrenched at 35.
btw, if you're not confident about taking your a levels and getting into at least arts or some other low-entry course, you're really just wasting your time with a levels. go do a diploma or something man. and yah, there's an invisible glass ceiling for poly grads. your pay scale will be different too. those are stuff that you might want to consider as well.
the pay difference between poly grads and 'A' level grads is just $100... too high an opportunity cost to do a diploma to get that extra $100 dollars every month... also 'A' level grads have a higher chance to get into Uni than poly grads, which in turn means higher chances of becoming a SO with higher pay -
Getting throught the interview is another thing! =xOriginally posted by Prestroz:Do diploma???!!! I'm taking my 'A' levels in three months time leh... furthermore my grades are not that bad either... the best would make it to a Uni, the worse maybe just getting a full 'A' level cert... haha
the pay difference between poly grads and 'A' level grads is just $100... too high an opportunity cost to do a diploma to get that extra $100 dollars every month... also 'A' level grads have a higher chance to get into Uni than poly grads, which in turn means higher chances of becoming a SO with higher pay -
You apparantly didnt read Police Life.Originally posted by chunyong:NSPI serve their 3 mths BMT with SAF, then they serve their 'OCS' in SPF as NSPI. hope dat clears the doubt....
y u wanna sign on ? if u have considered twice then considered thrice....just keep considering and dun sign on....
They have started allowing the best trainees to go for NSPI course from now on. I think the first batch had two such folks.
But why would any one want to be an NSI. Boring siah... -
Higher pay mah... but again, i think it's really a waste to send your best trainees for 9 months of officer training and then only to deploy them to vocations where they'll probably never put what they learnt to good use. But well, I guess that's where the VSC comes in for those NSIs who're genuinely interested in police work.Originally posted by huaiwei:You apparantly didnt read Police Life.
They have started allowing the best trainees to go for NSPI course from now on. I think the first batch had two such folks.
But why would any one want to be an NSI. Boring siah... -
Hmm...since they cut the training time from 6 to 3 months for other officers, I suppose it might be posible for them to cut the officer course shorter too? Come to think of it, is OCS planning to do the same thing?Originally posted by cornyfish2000:Higher pay mah... but again, i think it's really a waste to send your best trainees for 9 months of officer training and then only to deploy them to vocations where they'll probably never put what they learnt to good use. But well, I guess that's where the VSC comes in for those NSIs who're genuinely interested in police work.
Anyway even if these NSIs join VSC, apparantly they might still be stuck with the same kind of roles as we discussed in the VSC thread. -
Well...the fact that NSIs are posted to assume Staff Officers roles (most if not all of them) really makes me wonder if there is a need for 9 months of training that appears to be preparing one for operational duties. Correct me if I'm wrong though.. I'm not from SPF.Originally posted by huaiwei:You apparantly didnt read Police Life.
They have started allowing the best trainees to go for NSPI course from now on. I think the first batch had two such folks.
But why would any one want to be an NSI. Boring siah...
However, having spoken to some NS Senior Officers that were once NSPIs, my understanding is that most of them were actually deployed to ground/operational duties during their NSF days.
I suspect that the policy of putting NSPIs into staff roles came after the reorg/ implementation of the NPC system.