Volunteer Special Constabulary
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plainqueen-wat private school u from?
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Yep, will get letter also.Originally posted by plain_queen:if got rejected will get letter also? -
didn't get my letter yet, y is it always so late.....
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VSC much better than regular imho..
1) No need do folders.
2) Flexible time.
3) No need do boring duties like Maintenance/Counter Duty etc.
4) No need worry about complaints.
5) Can choose what you want to do. (to a certain extent eg. Anti-Crime/Ambush)
That only applies if you are passionate about the job. (or if you like to arrest pple
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I only know that there is only one female officer doing most of the admin work which you don't see or hear about.Originally posted by plain_queen:didn't get my letter yet, y is it always so late.....
And I also know that she has already sent out the rejection letters. Folks has been receiving those since last Friday, and some has already turned up at VSC HQ to appeal against the rejections.
She is also currently extremely stretched to sent out the letters informing the newbies to report to TRACOM for the Orientation & Swearing in.
Possibility that you have not received the letters might be that you are placed for the next intake cos some of your clearances was delayed. -
You didnt mention when you submitted the applicatiion.Originally posted by plain_queen:if got rejected will get letter also?
When you attended the interviews.
When you attended the pschometric test & when did you attend the Medical check-up.
If you really wanna know. Please Private Message me with your Name & NRIC nos. -
Ehh.....still gets complaints leh.Originally posted by Sagara:VSC much better than regular imho..
1) No need do folders.
2) Flexible time.
3) No need do boring duties like Maintenance/Counter Duty etc.
4) No need worry about complaints.
5) Can choose what you want to do. (to a certain extent eg. Anti-Crime/Ambush)
That only applies if you are passionate about the job. (or if you like to arrest pple )
Especially when ganna those ex-national services, because they know that Officers are VSC, these ex tends to be a bit more garang and can cook up beautiful stories just to blacken any VSC's name especially when they are at fault, but complain first so that the VSC cannot complain or arrest them later. -
Example:
On New Year Eve.
One woman illegal hawker was at Orchard Rd selling lighted trinkets.
One NEA officer stops her and insist on summoning her even though she did not have her personal particulars on her. NEA officer request for PO help to bring her back to station to confirm her identity.
The woman's brother (Ex NS/Current Reservist) then step in and insist that the POs cannot bring the woman back to station, because she has already provided her particulars verbally.
POs has also no wish to bring the poor woman back and thus try to negotiate with the NEA officer. But the NEA officer insisted.
More POs then step in and try to negotiate the scenerio by asking the woman to ask her brother to go home, get her particulars and quickly solve the problem.
Woman becomes frantic and was talking and crying as well as attempts to beg the POs. She was also gesturing wildly.
WPO then stays closer to her and hold down her hands to her laps to tell her to calm down and try to solve the problem at hand first so she won't be added with the charge or making of nuisance of herself in public.
Her brother, was in the meantime conversing loudly to other PO and when saw a space, dash to the WPO side and grab her arms and drag her away from his sister.
WPO then warn the brother not to do that again or he would be charged with obstructing a PO.
Anyway, the woman was finally brought back to station as the public show of dispute was getting out of hand.
POs then continue their rounds, but was later informed that the brother lodge the complaints against the WPO and the VSC Inspector for being rude and arresting the woman.
How is it that the regular officers were not complaint about but the VSC are?
VSC Inspector didnt do anything except to tell the Brother to cool down and dont aggrevate the matter. -
Hmmm... how did the brother know the INSP and the WPO were VSCs?Originally posted by viciouskitty74:Example:
On New Year Eve.
One woman illegal hawker was at Orchard Rd selling lighted trinkets.
One NEA officer stops her and insist on summoning her even though she did not have her personal particulars on her. NEA officer request for PO help to bring her back to station to confirm her identity.
The woman's brother (Ex NS/Current Reservist) then step in and insist that the POs cannot bring the woman back to station, because she has already provided her particulars verbally.
POs has also no wish to bring the poor woman back and thus try to negotiate with the NEA officer. But the NEA officer insisted.
More POs then step in and try to negotiate the scenerio by asking the woman to ask her brother to go home, get her particulars and quickly solve the problem.
Woman becomes frantic and was talking and crying as well as attempts to beg the POs. She was also gesturing wildly.
WPO then stays closer to her and hold down her hands to her laps to tell her to calm down and try to solve the problem at hand first so she won't be added with the charge or making of nuisance of herself in public.
Her brother, was in the meantime conversing loudly to other PO and when saw a space, dash to the WPO side and grab her arms and drag her away from his sister.
WPO then warn the brother not to do that again or he would be charged with obstructing a PO.
Anyway, the woman was finally brought back to station as the public show of dispute was getting out of hand.
POs then continue their rounds, but was later informed that the brother lodge the complaints against the WPO and the VSC Inspector for being rude and arresting the woman.
How is it that the regular officers were not complaint about but the VSC are?
VSC Inspector didnt do anything except to tell the Brother to cool down and dont aggrevate the matter. -
Because the brother is a Ex-NS from Tanglin Police Station. A police station is a small community. Everyone will know everyone.Originally posted by cornyfish2000:Hmmm... how did the brother know the INSP and the WPO were VSCs?
And when you see a new 'mature face' you can easily tell that the officers isn't a regular or national service boys. -
I would however like to point out.
VSCs are Volunteers. Which means that they have regular jobs on the outside.
Most of them either owns their own businesses or are with most private & public sector organisations.
Most also have friends/contacts which you would never expect a regular PO to have.
And Singapore being so small, it wouldnt be difficult to run into any VSC during any of their regular work days in unexpected situation. ie. a interview, a sales pitch or even at the hawker centre. -
It is all about AOS (Appreciation of Situation). Actually such cases can be managed in a more professional manner. We too look at the confidence level of the POs. In such scenarios, POs can do screening of the woman's identity with the details provided. Record down the details and move on.Originally posted by cornyfish2000:Hmmm... how did the brother know the INSP and the WPO were VSCs?
PO do not simply listen to the instruction from NEA officer. We should know our empowerment. If it is not a seizable offence, then there is no need to bring the woman back to station. That can be sorted out with the NEA officer quite easily. They can issue summon to the woman but that doesn't warrant them to make arrest.
PO will usually detain the subject based on reasonable grounds. Acertain the situation and detect offence(s) if any. Arrest to be made when offence(s) is detected.
In the event that the woman's brother and the woman are making a fuss in public, PO should immediately make the detention and ferry back to station. Simply fact - pulic nuisance.
Just my view.
Its good to share experience here....
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Well, looking back, the POs 1st on the scene are all pretty young.
And instead of bringing the threesome (NEA, Woman & Brother) to a more seculded place to conduct arguements. The POs didnt manage to control the scenerio with enough experiences.
And further down, the younger POs was not as aware of what they could or should have done to the threesome.
I would understand why the PO are finding it hard to turn down the NEA officer's request, as the NEA were empowered in that period by the SPF.
On ground patrol POs were instructed to assist the NEA as much as possible.
And being young and inexperienced as they are, with their miind still on 'why they are not partying like the rest of the crowds'.
It was a horrifying experience. -
Hmmm.....I sense this personally on the grounds, and I do wonder. Do regulars extend this sort of sentiment towards their SC counterparts?Originally posted by Eating Snake:To add on to the previous post, another reason POs are not so enthu about promoting VSC could be because ultimately it's more acceptable for a regular officer to get injured in the line of duty. Not so acceptable in the eyes of the public for a volunteer to get injured. So some POs might feel that they have to protect the VSCs they patrol with and might deem it an extra liability. -
I would think it would differ from person to person.
Regular PO to regular PO
Sc to Sc. -
Originally posted by viciouskitty74:Well, looking back, the POs 1st on the scene are all pretty young.
And instead of bringing the threesome (NEA, Woman & Brother) to a more seculded place to conduct arguements. The POs didnt manage to control the scenerio with enough experiences.
And further down, the younger POs was not as aware of what they could or should have done to the threesome.
I would understand why the PO are finding it hard to turn down the NEA officer's request, as the NEA were empowered in that period by the SPF.
On ground patrol POs were instructed to assist the NEA as much as possible.
And being young and inexperienced as they are, with their miind still on 'why they are not partying like the rest of the crowds'.
It was a horrifying experience. -
Soooo....
coming 29 Aug 05.
Who's schedule to report in for the Orientation/Swearing In ceremony for the VSC?
Welcome aboard the pirate ship.
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Geeeee.................
Ngok,
u know what i am going to nag you about. see the youngsters...they pop in 2 months time.
luke,
welcome aboard. is that goodlooking tcs actor still with us? or he walked the plank already?
and that ultra tall major?
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BTW, please please do not have the committee or clueless TRACOM VSC instructors and in charges push you guys into doing skits, performance or whatever interesting stuffs you guys figure might be interesting at the graduating ceremony.Originally posted by Luke1976:Hi viciouskitty,
Wish I had your valuable advice before I joined. Haha...
I am currently with the 61st intake. Now that the next batch is coming in, I can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel. 2 more months to POP!
Trust me, there is nothing everyone senior has not seen.
Its only interesting to see how clueless you guys knows about real police work.
Please just stick to presenting the awards and the certs and phototaking, group phototaking and the makan so that everyone will get to mingle at the makan as well as spend some quality time with your loves one there to see you graduate.
And so that, everyone can also go home earlier to rest.
The banners, flowers, decorations & foods are provided by the budget.
You guys just need to go up, receive the certs and enjoy the graduation. You guys deserve it.
Whatever after, then its up to you guys to plan and execute. Kindly do not force each other on issues not agreeable to each other. -
Haha, they are still around. And they both happened to be in my squad
In case you are interested, we had 80+ ppl on the first day of swearing in. By the following lesson, about 10 left. Right now, there are about 56 ppl.
We have finished our drill and PDT. We just started our range, and will be having our PPPO test next month. The 2-nights-a-week schedule is getting a little tiring, and I am looking forward to that final day
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And BTW, VSC Internal Audit Team is open to new Auditors.
Those keen to be nominated, please contact your Head (Break his arm if you dare) and get yourself nominated.
Audit Team Members is only priviledged in learning from the mistakes of Admin Team of various divisions.
Which hopefully, will in turn make you a better Admin Officer in your own division.
And take note, audit member are not expected to be just an honourary member.
If you cannot read a email, check your sms or learn how to read or do manual checking work with your eyes. Kindly do not apply. Your name will be remembered and go down far, wide and long down history. -
Thanks for the tips!
I just happened to volunteer myself as a committee member. Haha
What do you mean by "skits, performance and whatever interesting stuffs"? You mean we have to present a show?! I can't imagine embarassing ourselves in front of our future commanders....
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I was there at the swearing in. The short fat long haired and biatchy female talking loudly here and there with a snobbish rude attitude.Originally posted by Luke1976:Haha, they are still around. And they both happened to be in my squad
In case you are interested, we had 80+ ppl on the first day of swearing in. By the following lesson, about 10 left. Right now, there are about 56 ppl.
We have finished our drill and PDT. We just started our range, and will be having our PPPO test next month. The 2-nights-a-week schedule is getting a little tiring, and I am looking forward to that final day
Nice to hear that so many are still in training. We usually have 30 percent drop out by the 1st month and another 20 percent by the 3rd month.
And I guess it helps that there is Raymond Tan now at the helm of the TRACOM VSC Admin Team. -
Pleassssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeee........NOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo.Originally posted by Luke1976:Thanks for the tips!
I just happened to volunteer myself as a committee member. Haha
What do you mean by "skits, performance and whatever interesting stuffs"? You mean we have to present a show?! I can't imagine embarassing ourselves in front of our future commanders....
The Commanders/Heads VSC won't stay for the skits, performance and so on. They have other work to do.
Try bringing what I said up to your committee.....some already had a earful of my assessment of previous intake graduation ceremonies. They should then be able to tell you who I really am.
And tell the Committee Chairman/person. Keep the speech short sweet & simple and skip all the nagging pleasantaries. A simple thank you to family friends, squadmates & company will do. Anymore and its a waste of time cos everyone would have rushed down to your ceremony and would appreciate some makan faster.