Semi-auto or Revolvers?

• SpecOps87

  4 Jan 05, 10:23

  As we all know,SPF officers are formerly armed with the Smith & Wesson .38 which is now replaced with the Taraus revolver with a LAD.
  
  Well,as the topic states,do you officers in the street (patrolmen not STAR or SOC) feel that it is sufficient to be armed with a revolver?As there are cases in the past there officers shoot criminals 3-4 times and the criminal is still going strong,not really affected even though he is being shot.And we know that revolvers have an extremely limited magazine capacity of 5-7 rounds.,and that reloading takes a longer time as compared to a Semi-automatic.
  
  In a duty sense,would you prefer to be armed with a revolver or a semi-auto handgun like the Beretta or Glock series of weapons?
• HENG@

  4 Jan 05, 10:24

  armed with a T-80 MBT please.
• SpecOps87

  4 Jan 05, 10:26

  Oh be serious...
• houndy

  4 Jan 05, 10:26

  ??????.... i never pull out my revovler before other than range... it is not neccessary in singapore anyway.. even my baton which can be pulled out anytime.. i think i only did it like twice or thrice before...so no need to carry such powerful weapons.. heavy somemore...
• HENG@

  4 Jan 05, 10:32

  anyways, where stopping power is used as an argument, can we at the same time discuss cartridge type as well? Most semis used for police work r 9mm Parabellum. Studies have shown that ACPs and magnums have more stopping power. Revolvers designs have been more well suited for magnum rounds. While police in sg use .38 SP rounds, there ARE police forces armed with .357 revolvers. Then again, semis like the Colt M1911 n IMI Desert Eagle r chambered for the .45 ACP and the .357 n .44 Magnum rounds respectively, so perhaps police forces could use these as alternatives. Furthermore to consider, there the newer rounds like the 10mm and the .50 AE rounds, which would factor into the argument.
• houndy

  4 Jan 05, 13:28

  hmmm...now is getting more complicated...i am a peace loving person... i rather i dont carry guns...
• qazplm

  4 Jan 05, 14:51

  Originally posted by houndy:

  hmmm...now is getting more complicated...i am a peace loving person... i rather i dont carry guns...

  hmm.....
  
  ok... i give you a suggestion....
  
  why dont you fail shooting this year? heehee...
  
  so you will get your wish granted... kekekeke....
• houndy

  4 Jan 05, 17:19

  hmmm...good idea...
• huaiwei

  4 Jan 05, 21:02

  Originally posted by houndy:

  hmmm...now is getting more complicated...i am a peace loving person... i rather i dont carry guns...

  Or go sign up in London loh.
• HENG@

  4 Jan 05, 21:04

  Originally posted by huaiwei:

  Or go sign up in London loh.

  im in London.
• huaiwei

  4 Jan 05, 21:06

  Originally posted by HENG@:

  im in London.

  Get British citizenship yet?
• HENG@

  4 Jan 05, 21:14

  Originally posted by huaiwei:

  Get British citizenship yet?

  nope.
• huaiwei

  4 Jan 05, 21:26

  Originally posted by HENG@:

  nope.

  Chey...then how to sign on with the unarmed bobbies?
• HENG@

  4 Jan 05, 21:34

  Originally posted by huaiwei:

  Chey...then how to sign on with the unarmed bobbies?

  why would I want to sign on with them???
• huaiwei

  4 Jan 05, 21:36

  Originally posted by HENG@:

  why would I want to sign on with them???

  Oh yeah hor....you are the one talking about more firearms then less. My apologies.
• HENG@

  4 Jan 05, 21:36

  Originally posted by huaiwei:

  Oh yeah hor....you are the one talking about more firearms then less. My apologies.

  np.
• SpecOps87

  5 Jan 05, 21:17

  Hey guys,what do you think of the use of sae the Beretta M9 or the Glock series of handguns by the SPF?If safety is a prome concern,a suspect who does not know of the M9's decocking lever will probably never be able to fire the weapon even if its snatched from the officer.Glock series wise,althoug I like it for its simplicity,i feel that the lack of a safety device other then that on the trigger,in the event of a firearm snatch,the officer may be killed by his own weapon.
  
  Then again,what about the use of handguns which feature a magazine disconnector and also has a decocking lever?Feel free to add ur comments
• HENG@

  6 Jan 05, 02:00

  Originally posted by SpecOps87:

  Hey guys,what do you think of the use of sae the Beretta M9 or the Glock series of handguns by the SPF?If safety is a prome concern,a suspect who does not know of the M9's decocking lever will probably never be able to fire the weapon even if its snatched from the officer.Glock series wise,althoug I like it for its simplicity,i feel that the lack of a safety device other then that on the trigger,in the event of a firearm snatch,the officer may be killed by his own weapon.
  
  Then again,what about the use of handguns which feature a magazine disconnector and also has a decocking lever?Feel free to add ur comments

  don't know or care about so many fancy thingamus on the gun. An officer who allows his gun to be snatched in the 1st place is a poor officer. Anyways I'm a fan of big caliberes like the magnum rounds, ACPs n AEs. Anyhing that's chambered for these rounds oughta be good for police work. A suspect may not feel anything n keep going after being hit by 4 or 5 9mm rounds but a nice .45 ACP in his chest is gonna blow him back even if he doesn't actually feel it.
• mdfjami

  6 Jan 05, 02:03

  Originally posted by SpecOps87:

  As we all know,SPF officers are formerly armed with the Smith & Wesson .38 which is now replaced with the Taraus revolver with a LAD.
  
  Well,as the topic states,do you officers in the street (patrolmen not STAR or SOC) feel that it is sufficient to be armed with a revolver?As there are cases in the past there officers shoot criminals 3-4 times and the criminal is still going strong,not really affected even though he is being shot.And we know that revolvers have an extremely limited magazine capacity of 5-7 rounds.,and that reloading takes a longer time as compared to a Semi-automatic.
  
  In a duty sense,would you prefer to be armed with a revolver or a semi-auto handgun like the Beretta or Glock series of weapons?

  If a police officer can shoot a person 3 or 4 times and the person isn't down, either he's a very lousy shot, or he's not hitting the right places.
  
  How about the SPF switching to hollow point bullets. One shot one kill
• huaiwei

  6 Jan 05, 04:10

  in the event of a firearm snatch,the officer may be killed by his own weapon.

  Hmm...and how often does that happen?
  
  The last time a major case like this occured was back in 1991, and if I remember correctly, these cases of snatched revolvers were tackled by modifying the holster rather then the firearm itself...
  
  Saves lots of taxpayer's money that way.
• Weirdo80

  6 Jan 05, 06:03

  Hello,
  
  I'm in the Australian police service and we use the Glock 23.
  
  I haven't been serving for that long but I hear from the old guys that it is an improvement over the .38 S&Ws that were issued in the 90s. I too, feel more comfortable with a more accurate weapon that can pump out more rounds. Only non-uniformed officers are still issued with the .38 S&W Special.
  
  
• Weirdo80

  6 Jan 05, 06:05

  Having said that, I must say I've only drawn my gun on someone once and never fired it anywhere else except the range. And I hope it stays that way!
  
  
• SingaporeMacross

  7 Jan 05, 01:15

  Originally posted by huaiwei:

  Or go sign up in London loh.

  I think they all carry guns now due to terrorism.
• HENG@

  7 Jan 05, 01:16

  Originally posted by Weirdo80:

  Having said that, I must say I've only drawn my gun on someone once and never fired it anywhere else except the range. And I hope it stays that way!
  
  

  where are you stationed?
• HENG@

  7 Jan 05, 01:19

  Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:

  I think they all carry guns now due to terrorism.

  will see n note if they do.