OCS FAQ
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Originally posted by jojo_sinclair:
Heard that for Officer Cadet Training (OCT), among the three services, SAF, SPF & SCDF, someone said that SCDF OCT is the most siong physically & SPF OCT is the most slack. Do you agree? Please comment... cheers!
This thread is not really for discussion and SPF and SCDF stuff should be discussed in their respective forums.
If you are not in any of them and needs advice, do not post in this thread as this is for OCS cadets with questions about their course to seek advice/help.
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questn: if fail napfa before BMT cannot make it to OCS??!!
Is this true? Need to know. I'm on the verge of failing napfa thanks to standing board jump -.-"
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Originally posted by Chin2.menon:
questn: if fail napfa before BMT cannot make it to OCS??!!
Is this true? Need to know. I'm on the verge of failing napfa thanks to standing board jump -.-"
Nope. As long as you can pass it during BMT you will have a chance of OCS.
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This thread doesn't seem to be very active recently.
Perhaps it'd be helpful if people could contribute to the following question:-
What is the degree of xiongness of the various arms during OCS training such as Infantry, Artillery, Armour, Combat Engineers, Signals, etc.
Any advice/contributions would be greatly appreciated. Cheers!
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Oh yea, back to my question about can ITE/ O levels get into OCS. Was wondering what about poly dropouts. Can they get into OCS, or do they stay at the same standings of ITE/ Olevelers cahnces of getting into OCS
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Originally posted by eTan:
Oh yea, back to my question about can ITE/ O levels get into OCS. Was wondering what about poly dropouts. Can they get into OCS, or do they stay at the same standings of ITE/ Olevelers cahnces of getting into OCS
The chance is very very low since to go to command school, you need to go through BMT in tekong which ITE and O's students rarely go to and poly halfway dropout have limited chances.
The chance to go from mono to command school is very low and usually only to SISPEC and not OCS.
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Hi all!
During my medical checkup, I was told by the MO that due to my eyesight, I do not qualify for Commandos. But MO said that during my BMT, i can request for a review at MMI to see if i can go for eyesight correction surgery. PES B now due to eyesight.
Lets say i enter BMT leadership batch, manage to get into OCS and somehow manage to fix my eyesight before/during/after BMT/OCS. Is it still possible to get into Commandos after my OCS?
Sorry if i post in a wrong thread but i figure it pretty much about posting after OCS so i post here.
Thanks!
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Originally posted by sitonmylap:
Hi all!
During my medical checkup, I was told by the MO that due to my eyesight, I do not qualify for Commandos. But MO said that during my BMT, i can request for a review at MMI to see if i can go for eyesight correction surgery. PES B now due to eyesight.
Lets say i enter BMT leadership batch, manage to get into OCS and somehow manage to fix my eyesight before/during/after BMT/OCS. Is it still possible to get into Commandos after my OCS?
Sorry if i post in a wrong thread but i figure it pretty much about posting after OCS so i post here.
Thanks!
no.
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I agree with R3SsH|n. No.
Anyway, I think you guys shouldnt be too obsessed about getting into OCS. Get into OCS so what? What does it prove?
And OCS only takes people with a minimum of Poly Diploma or A level Cert. No Poly Halfway Droupouts (PhDs). But you can get into SISPEC with a PhD.
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Eh guys, dont be so obsessed going into OCS. If you think its all glitz and glamour in there, then you are wrong. Training aside, there is so much more politics in the OCS environment, especially since you're there for a full 9 months.
And then there are all the burnt weekends, cos the HQ cannot get training ground on a weekday, cos priority always goes to combat unit and such. Notwithstanding all the confinements, duty, Restriction of cadet priveledge. And how the officers make you sign extra like making you go water parade.
Then when you come out, you're an officer. Glamour? not really. Its good cos people will give way to you cos you have the rank, but every mistake you make have heavier consequences. You also have to behave properly all the time, cos once you fuck around in front of your men, your specs, they'll take it as a permission for them to fuck around.
But it is still a rewarding experience. You'll learn a lot.
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What situations will lead to Restriction of Cadet Privileges?
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Originally posted by Culture counter:
What situations will lead to Restriction of Cadet Privileges?
mis-firing
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is mis-firing serious enough to ooc
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Originally posted by jojo_sinclair:
is mis-firing serious enough to ooc
If you choose to continue your mis-firing streak then yes, it will lead to OOC.
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Restriction of Cadet Priveledges or RCP can be awarded because of whatever means the commanders are creative enough to come up with.
Not having a properly packed field pack, unclean rifle, untidy room, failure to meet the (sometimes ridiculous) standards of stand-by, unfilled water bottle during water parade and what nots.
Misfiring is one of the more common offences.
If you get RCP the guardhouse personnel are known to make your life difficult sometimes. And they can extend your RCP too, a right that they like to exercise sometimes.
Also if the commanders feel that your overall performance (or even performance in only one aspect) is bad enough, they can just recommend that you go for Performance Review Board (or the PRB). If the board feels that you're not fit to be an officer, they will OOC you, or more acurately, throw you out of OCS.
But then PRB is weird. I have heard that if you know the principles of defence and attack well and they ask you, they will retain you or maybe only recourse you.
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Originally posted by Audiophile:
But then PRB is weird. I have heard that if you know the principles of defence and attack well and they ask you, they will retain you or maybe only recourse you.
not true.
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Hi,
Just wanna know what are the stations that females usually skip for SOC?
Any idea regarding this?
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Originally posted by abhalten:
Hi,
Just wanna know what are the stations that females usually skip for SOC?
Any idea regarding this?
They skip the obstacle that require them to land from a height. (There is a reason behind this!)
Like the Ramp and Balancing Beam. I think thats all.
BTW, this is the OCS forum, not the SOC forum.
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Thanks and sry for that.
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Weellll... Had my topic locked and was told to refer here soooo....
Entering army this year, thinking of aiming for OCS. However, I've got a question.. What's the mental training like? What sort of thing do they do to mentally condition you? I'm quite ready for the physical training, but am quite unclear and unsure about the mental one.
Further clarification: I've asked someone about OCS and he said that it was the best time of his life; he didn't need to think at all, just needed to follow orders. That's not the sort of thing I want to get myself into. I know the importance of following orders in the army, but I'm a thinker and I don't want to get that creative analytical part of my mind suppressed.
Tell me, am I being paranoid? -
the first couple of weeks will be mentally challenging then physically challenging..after that..its how you take stress during missions
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Ok one stupid question.
How irritating is it for spec users? From what i read in page one, chemical defence package.... pretty much involve wearing gas mask i guess.
I belive contact lens are not allowed for SAF training? Any spec users got advice for a high myopia dude?
Any tips involving specs to help get past BMT/OCS/SISPEC is greatly appreciated.
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Originally posted by Bryanni:
Weellll... Had my topic locked and was told to refer here soooo....
Entering army this year, thinking of aiming for OCS. However, I've got a question.. What's the mental training like? What sort of thing do they do to mentally condition you? I'm quite ready for the physical training, but am quite unclear and unsure about the mental one.
Further clarification: I've asked someone about OCS and he said that it was the best time of his life; he didn't need to think at all, just needed to follow orders. That's not the sort of thing I want to get myself into. I know the importance of following orders in the army, but I'm a thinker and I don't want to get that creative analytical part of my mind suppressed.
Tell me, am I being paranoid?Ok, I've been out of OCS for like slightly over 2 years now.
The Mental Training, there isn't really a mental training 101 in OCS. Basically what happens is that they put you in stressful situations and give you decisions to make and they will assess you on how you respond. Once you're done, you should be a good cadet and take the initiative and get feedback from the instructors on how you fared. Some of them won't volunteer this information outright, you should take the initiative for self development.
The physical training is very much a part of the mental training. As you probably know, as fatigue kicks in, some people's ability to make sound decisions really plummets. Some people just cannot function under stress.
But some feedback, self reflection, i find really helps you to improve yourself.
AS for that person who you met who probably coasted through OCS and thus didnt find it stressful, then thats his perogative.
OCS is not the end all and be all of leadership development. Some people who have made it into OCS feel that, that is it. They have arrived. And it is possible to keep your head low dodge appointments and responsibilities and still commision to be an officer. I found many of my platoon mates and section mates who did just that. I had received 3 field major appointments, some minor ones and the highest administrative appointment, some of my platoon mates escaped with none!!! Maybe some minor admin appointment like armskote IC or toilet IC or maybe SectCom (if you find that being a Section Commander is enough for your development then i pray for the men under you in future).
So it is possible to coast through OCS. But for every coin, there are two sides. You will notice that there are some who step up to the challenge, these people will ofcourse shine, especially in comparison to the other shit that is around. Generally, they will be noticed more and be given more important appointments. If you find yourself overlooked, dont be shy, ask your platoon instructors for bigger more demanding appointments (this almost never happens, most are happy to get away with as little as possible) and maybe you are one of those that shine when burdened with bigger responsibilities.
You'll meet many types in OCS, some you'll be ashamed to be associated with, some you will be proud to call comrades and even some in between.
If you are the type to actively use your brain and if you enjoy a challenge then i wish you the best in OCS.
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If i'm not wrong, ocs shower got no door one right?
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haha become a officer served
till 50 yrs or so
end up might even have problem getting
300 from govt!!
So wats so hip and hop about
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