Originally posted by Archtomato:How OCS intake works now:
BSLC will be spit into 2 phases. 1st phase all the potentials will be assessed and sent to OCS directly. These people will then complete their total 10 mnths and then carry on from there.
At the end of BSLC, one group will leave as specs training in Support arms. Another grp of potentials will be sent to OCS AGAIN to undergo 10 mths training.
Those who stay for ASLC will be then re-assesed and the best of the cohort, like the bayonet winners will then go to OCS for 6 mths coz as guards or inf officers.
This is the exact roadap for the future of the officer intakes.
Hope this helps.
Cheers
Originally posted by wuming78:got 1 question: for intakes, only these available coys are able to go to OCS only?
OCS - Officer Cadet School.
"To Lead, To Excel, To Overcome"
Situated within SAFTI MI, the SAFTI Military Institute which is the home of the officer corp. There are several other advanced schools there like the SAS (SAF Advanced School). So one can expect alot of big shots (even officers from other countries) within the SAFTI compound. Cadets beware!
Anyway the top percentile from BMT gets to go OCS. Of course for those who signed on as officers they will likely go there too. And its not the case that you must ace your IPPT, SOC and range to get there.
[b]Intakes
There are four intakes into OCS per year, each comprising of around 250-500 cadets. These intakes are in April(delta, foxtrot, sierra, tango), June/July(bravo, echo, golf), September/October(alpha, sierra, tango) and December(charlie, hotel). Each intake is denoted by the batch number / year, e.g. I was from 45/01 OCC, which means the 45th batch of Officer Cadet Course, 2001 intake.
TIP: to get to SAFTI, its recommended to take mrt to boon lay and take a cab. if u take the bus 193 frm boon lay bus interchange, it will stop outside safti, and u (cadets) will have to MARCH all the way in - its really quite far in! at least 15 - 20 mins walk. taking a cab means u get to drop at carpark I within the compound. u still have some marching in to do depending on which wing u r in, but it saves half the journey. the normal cab fare frm boon lay to safti is about $4.50
Anyway the structure of OCS:
So there are basically the army wings, the air force wings and the navy wings. (Coys are known as Wings in OCS. Dun ask me why. Prob to follow some US fashion)
The Structure of the Wings:
Wing Commander
Wing 2IC
Wing Sergeant Major
Platoon Commanders (usu 3 Pl; known as flight for air force and something else for navy)
Section Commanders (OCS recently changed back to the fixed instructors for each wing structure, rather than the roving instructors)
TCO - training coordinating officer: plans ur trg prog and other supporting stuff
Culture
Discipline is the cornerstone in OCS. Cadets are expected to either march or double from point to point, and do so in step, and sing at the same time. And they have to greet everyone else they meet along the way - even older cadets - as the officers there would have told you, cadets are the lowliest creatures, even worse off than recruits! Be prepared to be punished for every mistake made.
Punishments range from push up, defaulters' parade, confinement, extra duty (cadets need to perform CDO - cadet duty officer, and CDS - cadet duty sergeant - duties), RP or restriction of privileges - which is when a cadet gets charged for e.g. misfiring (so DONT misfire!). A cadets outlook shows one's discipline and hence it is essential to always look smart. One will need to iron and even starch all uniforms and shirts.
Parades are commonplace - within the wing there are change of command parades for cadet appointment holders, muster parades, and within the school, monthly Commander's Parade at the parade square. These are drilled into you by the daily first and last parade. No movement in the file, no standing on one leg, position of arms when holding bottles, reciting of officers' creed and core values, etc etc.
"Stand-bys" are common too - at least in my time - and ANYTHING can be asked for standby - bunk, bed, area, fieldpack, SBO, smart 4, and the worse being UNIVERSE when instructors can ask to see anything and expect them to be in "stand-by" condition. There are ppl who have 2 sets of everything: one for use and one for standby. I personally do not think tt is necessary unless u r damned rich.
TIP: always have a "smartest 4" prepared ONLY for parades - ironed, starched to its best. and normal smart 4 have to be done properly too. make sure there are visible iron lines on your pants, and no cock hair anywhere! and learn how to wear the cap, the beret and the peak cap properly! have one pair of chiong sua boots and one pair of drill boots - its worth the trouble changing between them between lessons!
NOTE:btw, one gets to wear the peak cap - by far my favourite headdress - when one's wing is the next to be commissioned!
An integrity is critical - cadets can go out of course (OOC) for displaying a lack of integrity. Some cadets had been made out of course for playing with their ceremonial swords.
Standardisation is also very important - to emphasise the importance of teamwork and cooperation.
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wat u mean?Originally posted by duotiga83:got 1 question: for intakes, only these available coys are able to go to OCS only?
Originally posted by wuming78:wat u mean?
i mean this
Intakes
There are four intakes into OCS per year, each comprising of around 250-500 cadets. These intakes are in April(delta, foxtrot, sierra, tango), June/July(bravo, echo, golf), September/October(alpha, sierra, tango) and December(charlie, hotel). Each intake is denoted by the batch number / year, e.g. I was from 45/01 OCC, which means the 45th batch of Officer Cadet Course, 2001 intake.
i take it u mean wat happens to those who POP in betw? its april, june, sept/oct and dec intakes, i think to coincide with POPs. in any case, i seriously don't think there is such thing as no intake during tt month hence tt batch of bmt has no chance to go OCS.Originally posted by duotiga83:i mean this
icic ...finally understand liao...thanksOriginally posted by wuming78:i take it u mean wat happens to those who POP in betw? its april, june, sept/oct and dec intakes, i think to coincide with POPs. in any case, i seriously don't think there is such thing as no intake during tt month hence tt batch of bmt has no chance to go OCS.
for ur case, even though ur ptp starts in dec, ur bmt starts in jan, which means if those eligible will join the april occ.
thank you thank you! hope this helps.Originally posted by 12qwaszx:Wow! very comprehensive leh wuming78! well done!
thanx!Originally posted by LoVeMeLoVeMenOt:wahaha WELL DONE Wuming78...now i know more about OCS liao GREAT JOB
Y not...i think everyones even myself will be interestedOriginally posted by s|nNeD:erm since there is a branch of from the sispec faq for support units. wonder if anyone wants to know anything from the artillery unit?
thanks!Originally posted by s|nNeD:all right... here goes... just a brief one.
For cadets who are posted to artillery after service term, they would go to School of Artillery which is at Khatib Camp. Khatib Camp houses several other units which includes 23SA, 24SA, PT AND SPORTS, etc...
For artillery, we do not call a platoon a platoon. We call it a battery.
For artillery, it is further sub-divided into 2 fields. Liaison and FA. Liaison basically are ppl who normally are with the infantry battalions, providing advices on Fire Support Issues. FA which also stands for Field Artillery basically are ppl that provide the fire, which is also the artillery battalions.
For cadets going thru artillery training, there are basically 3 phases that you have to go through. The basic phase, weapons phase and the specialized phase. For basic phase, the most basic knowledge of the artillery would be imparted to you. Things ranging from using forms for computation of data to using the GB6 director to obtain readings for laying of the guns.
As an artillery officer, you would need to have the basics of knowing parts and the operating specs of the Field Howitzers. In artillery, we have the FH88 which is capable of a distance of 30km with an ER round, the FH2000 which is capable of a distance of 40km with an ER round and the newly comissioned "Primus" which is a self propelled howitzer.
Lastly is the specialized phase where you would be streamed to Liaison, FA and radar. For liaison, you would be taught on map reading, fire support matters and specialised equipment handling, You would come out as qualified FOs or known as Forward Observers. There are several exercises for the liaison phase but the major one would be Ex Firestrike where cadets undertake appointments and start to plan for the fires to support the manouevre counterparts. For FA, cadets undergo training to further specialise their knowledge in the FA battalions; the hierachy and structure, to further hone their skills in the equipment used and to practice survey and the laying of the guns. The one major exercise would be EX Thunderstorm, where cadets take up various appointments, which includes BC (Battery Commander), BSM (Battery Sergeant Major), BRO (Battery Recce Officer) and GPO (Gun Positioning Officer). the other HQ appointment holders are FDO (Fire Direction Officer) and BNRO (Battalion Recce Officer). For those going to radar, sorry cant say much. its classified. I came from Liaison by the way.
After which, everyone would come together again and move off to either Starlight or Crescendo to do your live firing and then when you come back. Prepared to get conmissioned!
it is possible. but it oso depends on the person's age, as there is a max age for OCS.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Gotta question.Theres this friend of mine who said he was going to be converted from a Guards Platoon Sergeant/Sniper to a LTA ..Is there really such a thing or is he pulling a fast one on me?BTW, he said it was recommended by his CO.Im kinda blur when it comes to combat side stuff like OCS cuz Im only a Armament Spec..
Care to enlighten?
unit posting muz tell us horOriginally posted by Master -_-:wahhh steady.. will help me a lot *hint* *hint*
Hehe... my pc told me to enjoy myself at ocs...Originally posted by duotiga83:unit posting muz tell us hor
onli when receive the letter?Originally posted by Master -_-:Hehe... my pc told me to enjoy myself at ocs...
I dunno la.. i wun hold my hopes too high
not letter. u will noe 1 wk after ur POP when u go back to hear the posting.Originally posted by duotiga83:onli when receive the letter?