IPPT Default: NSman Got Charged. Fine $ OR Go DB Squat? How?
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i have missed my IPPT third time so am preparing to squat a few days inside...
Default cos of workload...wonder if any NSmen (who have ORD) have been inside before? how is it? just go inside face the wall and slack or will get tekan like NSF detainees? just wanna prepare myself and if 4 days need to shave botak?
Do i need to let my company HR know i am going to military detention or can i just take leave and return back to work after serving my sentence...will SAF inform my company?
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Source: mindef.gov.sg/nsmen
What are the disciplinary actions?
For our common understanding, the meanings of the names are defined as follows:
i. IPPT Defaulters
These are NSmen who have failed to make any attempt in IPPT throughout the 9 mth IPPT window and did not qualify for any exemptions.
ii. RT Defaulters
These are NSmen who have failed to complete 20 sessions of RT within the last 3 months of their birthday window.
Disciplinary actions will be taken against the defaulters.(A) Graduated Scale of Punishment
The appropriate punishment on a graduated scale will be meted out by the Disciplinary Officers (DOs) depending on the NSman’s mitigating pleas, attitude, service records, previous convictions and performance for past IPPTs/RTs.
For recalcitrant defaulters, it may mean heftier fines, custodial sentences or court martial. In the event if the NSman is unable to pay the fine, the DO may order detention in default of payment within reasonable time based on prevailing guidelines. The detention may take effect on any date and shall be terminated on payment of fine.
(B) Central Defaulters Management Branch (CDMB)
CDMB was set up as a tri-service shared services structure within the NSmen Services Centre (NSSC) to manage all IPPT/RT defaulter offenders on behalf of their parent NS units. The NS Commanders maintain the prerogative to summary trial the NSmen if they wish to do so. Under such circumstances, CDMB will provide the use of its premises and facilities to conduct the Summary Trial. -
Hope you can continue to heck care bo-chup...
Keep up the good attitude.
We need more such NSmen to test the system.
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Focus Group Discussions on Strengthening National Service (Phase 2)
In the last few months, we held a first phase of Focus Group Discussions (FGDs) where different people came together to share their experiences with NS, the strengths of NS and areas to be strengthened, as well as their aspirations for NS. We thank our participants for taking the time to share their ideas and experiences.
For Phase 2 of the FGDs, we will go into more specific discussions on these following topics.
Recognising and Appreciating the Contributions of NSFs and NSmenThe contributions of our National Servicemen ensure the peace and stability which Singapore has enjoyed. We have heard calls for greater recognition, and more importantly, appreciation and respect for our National Servicemen from the community. What else can we do for our NSFs and NSmen? In this topic, let’s come together to discuss what are the ways different segments of the broader community, such as our family members, employers, the government, and members of the public can better recognise and show their appreciation for the contributions of our NSmen.
Managing Demands of NS, Work and Personal LifeWe have heard many of you highlight the challenges faced in juggling NS duties with other commitments. Juggling In-Camp Training and IPPT can be challenging. Some have also shared their worries about falling behind in terms of education and when they eventually enter the workforce. In this topic, share with us what you think are the ways in which we can help address these challenges and competing demands that our National Servicemen face.
Providing Opportunities for the Broader Community to Contribute to DefenceNS is a national institution based on critical need, and our National Servicemen play an important part in national defence by serving NS. Beyond our National Servicemen, can the broader community, such as women, play their part in contributing to defence? How can they offer their expertise, knowledge and skills? Should volunteering in the SAF be an option?
Optimising the Contributions of NSFs and NSmenEvery National Serviceman has an important role to play in Singapore’s defence and wants to have a meaningful NS experience. Some servicemen want to do more and increase their contributions to NS. How can we better meet our servicemen’s personal aspirations through their deployment, while ensuring operational needs are met? In this topic, we will come together to discuss ways we can strike this balance.
To gain a deeper sharing on these topics, FGDs will be held for different groups of stakeholders. For each session, participants will be divided into small groups of 6-8 participants for the small group discussions before everyone gathers for a large group sharing. The estimated duration of each session is between 2.5 to 3.5 hours.
How to Participate
Keen to participate in an FGD? Simply register below and we will get in touch with you shortly. Do note that session slots will be filled on a first-come-first-served basis. Confirmed participants should receive an email within 3 working days.If you are unable to join any of the sessions, we welcome you to share your views at our online feedback form.
We look forward to your participation!
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URL: www.StrengthenNS.sg
National Servicemen can expect new measures to better motivate, support, and recognise them, as well to help them balance their NS commitments with their family and career commitments.
These aims were revealed by the Committee to Strengthen National Service on Wednesday, after it held its first meeting at the Basic Military Training Centre on Pulau Tekong. Over the next six months, the committee will gather ideas from servicemen and the public through focus group discussions and town hall sessions.
The public may also air their views on a new website www.strengthenNS.sg or through e-mail at [email protected].
The 20-member committee is chaired by Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen, and includes Members of Parliament, senior military personnel, employers, and NSmen. It was set up during this year's Committee of Supply Debate in March, which saw robust debate over how to better recognise National Servicemen in light of continued immigration and the need to preserve a Singapore core. In recent months, members of the public have responded to the news by calling for greater monetary incentives, including subsidies for transport, education and health, and time-off to rest after reservist in-camp training.
Over the next six months, Singaporeans will be asked for feedback on how to beef up National Service.
The Committee to Strengthen National Service, announced in March, will lead focus group discussions and town hall sessions while also conducting online consultation sessions via a new website, www.strengthenNS.sg
The Committee meeting for the first time today, expects its work to be done within a year.
Made up of 20 members, including Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen, Members of Parliament,military top brass and private sector employers, the committee will use the feedback gathered to recommend measures to enhance National Service as a critical institution for Singapore's continued survival and success.
The measures are meant to motivate servicemen to give their best in serving, help them balance their duties with family and work commitments, enhance support from families, companies, new citizens and the broader community, and promote recognition of servicemen's efforts.
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Originally posted by SC.Officer:
Hope you can continue to heck care bo-chup...
Keep up the good attitude.
We need more such NSmen to test the system.
I am willing to face the music so please don't be sarcastic....I am only getting myself ready to prepare for a few days inside...so waiting for fellow forumers who have been inside as an NSmen detainee to share their experience....
Want to see if it is true that NSmen who go in are treated better ...don't need to undergo the discipline regime inside...
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Source: www.mindef.gov.sg/safmpc
SAF Detention Barracks
1. Are the detainees being medically taken care of?
Primary health care of detainees is of utmost importance to us. All detainees will be given adequate medical care during their incarceration. Our medical services are also supported by the Tengah Airbase Medical Centre, NUH and also Changi General Hospital if the need arises.
2. Can I write a letter to a detainee?
Yes.
3. I have just received a Visit Notification Letter, but the schedule visit date stated therein has already lapsed. How can I visit the detainee?
You can contact the Records Office at 6424 6666 to arrange for another appointment date.
4. Can anyone besides the parent unit of the detainees pick up the detainee on the day of their release?
At no time shall the detainee/military prisoner be released from the detention barracks/military prison as the case may be, to his family or any other party.
5.. Can the detainee write letters while serving detention in Detention Barracks?
Every detainee and military prisoner shall be allowed to write one letter per week.
6. What are the visiting days and what is the duration of the visit?
Visiting days are on Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and the first appointment starts from 1.30pm and ends at 3.00pm. Visitors are allowed to visit the detainee for 30 minutes.
7. How many visits is the serviceman entitled to?
Each serviceman is entitled to one visit per week.
8. What happens if the family members can't turn up on the date specified for their first visit?
The family members can call Records Office of SAF Detention Barracks at 6424 6666 and arrange for another date and time.
9. What is the dress code of the family members when they come for parent visit?
The family must wear appropriately when they come for parent visit. SAF Detention Barracks will send a slip indicating the dress code together with the parent-visiting letter. -
so will there be a criminal record tagged to a civilian who has been sentenced to DB before and will the employer be notified?
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The SAF Military Police Command to in touch with us:
By Telephone
MP Command Ops Centre: (+65) 6424-6444
SAFDB Records Office: (+65) 6424-6666
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What are the disciplinary actions?
For our common understanding, the meanings of the names are defined as follows:
i. IPPT Defaulters
These are NSmen who have failed to make any attempt in IPPT throughout the 9 mth IPPT window and did not qualify for any exemptions.
ii. RT Defaulters
These are NSmen who have failed to complete 20 sessions of RT within the last 3 months of their birthday window.
Disciplinary actions will be taken against the defaulters.(A) Graduated Scale of Punishment
The appropriate punishment on a graduated scale will be meted out by the Disciplinary Officers (DOs) depending on the NSman’s mitigating pleas, attitude, service records, previous convictions and performance for past IPPTs/RTs.
For recalcitrant defaulters, it may mean heftier fines, custodial sentences or court martial. In the event if the NSman is unable to pay the fine, the DO may order detention in default of payment within reasonable time based on prevailing guidelines. The detention may take effect on any date and shall be terminated on payment of fine.
(B) Central Defaulters Management Branch (CDMB)
CDMB was set up as a tri-service shared services structure within the NSmen Services Centre (NSSC) to manage all IPPT/RT defaulter offenders on behalf of their parent NS units. The NS Commanders maintain the prerogative to summary trial the NSmen if they wish to do so. Under such circumstances, CDMB will provide the use of its premises and facilities to conduct the Summary Trial.