NS-liable Permanent Resident (PR) Serve NS Get Citizenship?
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General introduction about me,
- Originally born in 1992, Taiwan.
- Migrated and residing in Singapore since 1999 as Permanent Resident.
- Studied in Singapore since K2(Kindergarten 2) to Tertiary education.
- Currently, I am a Permanent Resident who is serving the NS as a NSF.
- I was enlisted into NS on November 2012 (EAGLE COY) and have already completed Combat BMT in April 2013, and I have not committed serious offenses (local & overseas).
I have visited ICA's website and read the terms and conditions of the following schemes:
1) Singapore Citizen by Descent - Failed to qualify as both parents are SPR.
2) Economic Scheme - Failed to qualify as I'm currently under 21 (born in Sep 1992).
3) Family Ties Scheme - Failed to qualify as both parents are SPR.
I have always wanted to be Singapore citizen since young as I was raised here, studied locally, and play HDB block catching during childhood, etc. I'm very sure this is my HOME.
However, I still can't apply for citizenship as both my parents are holding on to SPR even though I have been living in Singapore for almost 14 years.
Therefore, I would like to know whether could I apply for citizenship under Accelerated Citizenship Scheme via online or do I have to visit ICA personally.
And what are the documents required for the application.
I have read the info on this web, http://esc.ica.gov.sg/esc/public/nsfaqs.doIt stated that
"Permanent Resident National Servicemen who have completed Combat BMT or 12 months of service (NSF or Regular Service), provided they have not committed serious offences, would be eligible and invited by MINDEF, Police and SCDF to apply for Singapore Citizenship under the Accelerated Citizenship. If they have SingPass account, they could apply through e-SC and make electronic payment for the relevant fees at time of application."
I have completed my Combat BMT in April 2013, but did not received any invitations?!
Appreciate the help.
Other info:
I don't wish my 2 younger brothers who are locally born and raised to experience the similar situation that I have went through.
They are born and raised locally yet they are classified as SPR as both of my parents are SPR, and that's the ISSUE.
They will have to go through the same path as me, going through NS in order to get Singapore Citizenship, even though they were born and raised locally.
I don't want that to happen.
Here's why:
1) Awkward moment when you're locally born and raised but holds a Blue IC.
2) Not eligible to the benefit of citizen (refer to point 3), they are not allowed to apply for Citizen till they undergo NS (but they're born and raised locally? And Singapore is their HOME).
3) Example of benefits for citizen,
- Edusave, they will have to pay every single cents for their education just like me. No big deal, that's what you might said. Do you know the unbearable feeling of being left out during primary school days just because you didn't have enough money to attend the P5 Camp while others paid by Edusave. Same happens to secondary school camp and overseas programs, I didn't attend any of them as I came from a poor family background. Upon Tertiary education, school fees acted as a heavy burden to my family as SPR doesn't have neither Edusave nor PSEA; I have to work part time to top it off.
- Scholarship, not eligible because I'm SPR. Although my GPA is 3.89 but still not accepted for government scholarships.
- Housing, rent a 4-room flat from a local family, and sublet the 3 rooms out in order to square off the high rent cost. So where do we lived? A family of 5 lived in living room. Cramp living area, no air-con, no TV, no fancy decorations, sleeps on mattresses. Something similar to construction workers' hostels but slightly better, and that's where I have been living for the past 14 years.- Medical cost, even citizen pays an enormous amount of bill, so don't mention about SPR.- National Service, being SPR whose parents are also SPR you can't enter high security clearance vocation such as SCS nor OCS due to CAT2A security clearance required, so most likely ended up as drivers or storeman (low security clearance vocations). So what's the point of getting IPPT Gold and undergo 6 days fieldcamp SIT test. You can't even be a clerk as that requires an ISAC card!- Others, there are many more benefits that Singapore Citizen enjoys compared to Singapore Permanent Citizen.But I guess that's what differentiate between Citizens and PRs.You can be a PR in Singapore, but never a poor PR.Or else you will realized how expensive it is to be raised up in Singapore, and I really admired my parents for raising up 3 kids under such harsh financial conditions.Did I mention that I completed my 6 yeas of primary school with just 3 sets of uniforms? Nothing much over $30 per piece, the most expensive clothing I have bought is the Crocodile long sleeve business shirt which cost $40+ as required for business related course. -
There is no guarantee that every PR serving NS be approved for citizenship, but these are exceptional cases on a case-by-case basis.
Please call the 24/7 NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to speak to a customer service officer.
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Source: www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/press_room/official_releases.html
Second Generation Permanent Residents are required to go through compulsory full-time national service as well as reservist duties after they have completed their full-time national service and turns operationally-ready (ORD).
Minister for Defence Dr Ng Eng Hen stated in Parliament that between 2006 to 2011, about 8,800 males who had become permanent residents under the sponsorship of their parents were enlisted for and served National Service (NS). On the other hand, 4,200 males who had become permanent residents under the sponsorship of their parents renounced their PR status prior to serving national service. Their failure to serve NS will be taken into account to have adverse impact when they subsequently apply to study/ work/ visit/ travel in Singapore. These ex-PRs were sternly warned about the dire consequences of their actions at the point of renunciation.
After completing full-time national service, they are eligible to apply for Singapore citizenship. However, citizenship is not guaranteed for all applicants, as there are certain criteria that must be met such as educational qualification, income qualification and NS work performance/ conduct appraisal in the NS Certificate of Service upon ORD. From 2006 to 2010, about 2% of 3,000 Second Generation Permanent Residents who completed full-time national service and applied for Singapore citizenship were rejected.
If the person does not hold Singapore citizenship but still holds Singapore permanent residency, he is still required to serve the service requirement, i.e. reservist duties after he turns operationally-ready.
Singapore Permanent Residents who served national service but did not acquire Singapore citizenship will be treated equally to those permanent residents without service obligation; they would not have access to the privileges granted to Singapore citizens.
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Please call the 24/7 NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to speak to a customer service officer.
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Please call the 24/7 NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to speak to a customer service officer.
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Please call the 24/7 NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to speak to a customer service officer.
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Thanks All,
I will call to check with the 24 hours One-Stop NS Service Call Centre.
"There is no guarantee that every PR serving NS be approved for citizenship, but these are exceptional cases on a case-by-case basis."
Are the term & conditions up to ICA's discretion @ www.ica.gov.sg?
Deputy Prime Minister in his written reply in Parliament in 2012 wrote that every application for Singapore citizenship is evaluated on a range of criteria, including economic contributions, qualifications, age, family profile and length of stay in Singapore, to assess applicants' ability to contribute and integrate into our society, and commitment to sinking roots. For those with family ties to Singapore citizens, we also consider the local sponsor's ability to support the family. As applications are evaluated holistically, there may be a number of reasons, taken together, for rejecting an application.
Members of Parliament questioned whether the government has a discerning criteria in citizenship approval.
To which Ms Fu replied criteria is not based on a single but a whole set of criteria used to evaluate citizenship applications.
She said this set of criteria is reviewed from time to time, in ensuring the set meets the country's immigration needs.
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Terms & Conditions:
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Please call the 24/7 NS hotline at 1800-3676767 to speak to a customer service officer.
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Originally posted by eac:
After completing full-time national service, they are eligible to apply for Singapore citizenship. However, citizenship is not guaranteed for all applicants, as there are certain criteria that must be met such as educational qualification, income qualification and NS work performance/ conduct appraisal in the NS Certificate of Service upon ORD. From 2006 to 2010, about 2% of 3,000 Second Generation Permanent Residents who completed full-time national service and applied for Singapore citizenship were rejected.
If the person does not hold Singapore citizenship but still holds Singapore permanent residency, he is still required to serve the service requirement, i.e. reservist duties after he turns operationally-ready.
Kena played out still need to do reservist!!!knnbccb MIWs!!!
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i very much welcome PRs to become citizen, so long they do NS.
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Originally posted by kengkia:
i very much welcome PRs to become citizen, so long they do NS.
Was not allowed to take up citizenship due to both parents who remain as SPR(Taiwan), as that is consider their hometown. However, I grew up here since age of 6. Educated and raised locally.
According to system I might be SPR but in real life I'm no different than any local Singaporean as this is my culture, my Home.
Many were shocked that I'm actually from Taiwan.
For now just pray that I'm able to get citizenship, if ever I get married my son/daughter will be a SPR too just because his/her dad is SPR and have to go through the same shyt cycle again.
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Originally posted by Hellfire poty:
Was not allowed to take up citizenship due to both parents who remain as SPR(Taiwan), as that is consider their hometown. However, I grew up here since age of 6. Educated and raised locally.
According to system I might be SPR but in real life I'm no different than any local Singaporean as this is my culture, my Home.
Many were shocked that I'm actually from Taiwan.
For now just pray that I'm able to get citizenship, if ever I get married my son/daughter will be a SPR too just because his/her dad is SPR and have to go through the same shyt cycle again.
Hellfire poty, no need to worry.
I also converted from PR to SG citizen during my ns period through Accelerated Citizenship scheme. I still remembered that I POP from BMT in April, then posted to MMI for medic training then finally posted to a unit. I had waited quite a few months after my BMT before they passed me my "Accelerated Citizenship scheme" form.
That's why I tell you not to worry. Because SAF will inform ALL PR nsf on the scheme at the auditorium and pass you the application form with YOUR NAME on it. It is then up to your decison if you would want to apply or not. Maybe you are still under training now?? SAF will eventually pass you the application form after your unit has been finalised.
I would suggest you to wait till December, if by then you still never receive the application form then you could approach your HQ admin clerk for the form. SAF will not mail the form to you, it will be passed to you personally.
Please be patient. Don't apply on your own thru ICA, why? When you apply thru accelerated scheme, you get the priority and it is free and 100% successful rate. The application form is also easy to fill up as SAF has already helped you to void out all the unnecessary colunms that you don't need to fill up. I have never heard of anybody got rejected before.
The only $ that paid is for the passport and nric.
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Different unit, different SOP. My unit did it for those during the last 2-3mths before ORD, so check with your unit.