If NS Enlist Day I Don't Show Up,Military Police Knock Home?
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any idea? lol
cause planning go oversea with my friends but the only days available is right before enlistment so if got flight delay or anything what will happen?
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Yes, the Military Police (MP) will look for you, and you might be charged for Absent Without Official Leave (AWOL). -
Originally posted by eac:
Yes, the Military Police (MP) will look for you, and you might be charged for Absent Without Official Leave (AWOL).
Source: www.ns.sg
Military Justice System in the SAF
1. Overview
The military justice system in the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) is expected to treat every service personnel fairly and equally, regardless of race, rank or vocation.
2. Multi-levelled ApproachThe military justice system is based on the SAF Act, which was implemented in 1972. All servicemen are subjected to the SAF Act, SAF Regulations, and orders of whatever form issued pursuant to them.
While discipline is paramount in the military, not all offences committed by SAF servicemen are dealt with by formal investigations and charges. Essentially, offenders can be dealt with either by way of informal or formal punishment systems.
3. Informal Punishment System
Commanders are empowered to mete out informal punishments like push-ups and weekend confinement to servicemen who have committed disciplinary breaches, like being late, sluggish, or improperly dressed.4. Formal Punishment System
If the offence that a serviceman committed is of a more serious nature, he may be formally dealt with by his disciplinary officer by way of a summary trial, or brought before a subordinate military court (more commonly known as the General Court Martial or GCM).(a) Summary Trial
The offences that can be dealt with by summary trial are essentially military offences, such as absence without leave (AWOL), non-compliance with lawful orders or insubordination.
Depending on the rank of the serviceman in question, and the type of the disciplinary body hearing the case, the possible sentences that may be imposed can vary, and these can include fines or detention.
The summary trial is carried out in accordance with relevant SAF regulations, and the records of the summary trial are sent to the office of the Director, Legal Services of the SAF.
(b) General Court Martial
The General Court Martial exists as a separate forum from that of the summary trial. Unlike the summary trial, the GCM can deal with a wider range of offences, and can impose a wider range of punishments including imprisonment and discharge, on top of sentences like detention and fines. The GCM is also a more public and open forum, and its proceedings are conducted using similar legal rules and procedures as those used in a civil criminal court.
Generally, only serious offences investigated by the Military Police Command, and which are referred to the office of the Director of Legal Services, will result in the accused serviceman being charged in a GCM. In such a case, a military prosecutor will draw up a formal charge sheet and present it before the GCM.
General Courts Martial can be further sub-divided into two categories, namely the Panel Courts Martial - consisting of a President and usually two other members, and Judge Courts Martial - consisting of a single President only.
Currently, the practice is for military offences to be heard by Panel Courts Martial, while civil offences like misuse of drugs and penal code offences may be dealt with by a Judge Court Martial.
The current policy is also for an NSman, who is or was a District Judge in the Subordinate Courts, to preside in a GCM. There are currently 10 NSmen who have been appointed by the Armed Forces Council to perform duty as President of a court martial. They are rostered by the Registrar of the Subordinate Military Court to hear cases during their in-camp training. In the case of a Panel Court Martial, the other two members are rostered from among some 155 military officers appointed by the Chief of Defence Force.
5. Ways to Seek RedressThere are numerous safeguards and avenues set out in the military justice system for an SAF serviceman to seek redress if he is unhappy about the punishment imposed on him.
Generally, a serviceman who is dissatisfied with an informal punishment meted out to him may request a higher level commander to review the punishment, or request for formal disciplinary dealing.
In the case of a summary trial, a serviceman brought before the disciplinary officer may elect instead to be tried by a court martial. Alternatively, an aggrieved serviceman may request that his conviction or punishment imposed at the summary trial be reviewed by MINDEF's Director Manpower (a delegated authority of the Armed Forces Council).
In the case of a GCM, a serviceman may choose to be represented by a lawyer or an SAF defending officer if his case will be heard by a court martial. The SAF has about 200 trained defending officers. While an SAF defending officer comes free to the serviceman, he has to bear the cost of engaging a lawyer. At the end of the trial, a serviceman who is dissatisfied with the decision of the court martial may petition the Reviewing Authority (the AFC or a committee of its members) for a review of his case. The serviceman can also appeal to the Military Court of Appeal (MCA) for a reconsideration of his conviction, or his sentence, or both.
The MCA, when convened to hear an appeal, sits as a panel of five members. Heading the MCA is a President, who is appointed by the Chief Justice. By law, he must be a person qualified to be a Judge of the Supreme Court. The current President of the MCA is Justice Choo Han Teck. Four other members - two civilian members who are qualified legal practitioners with at least five years experience each, and two senior military officers - make up the rest of the MCA. The MCA is the highest court in the military justice system.
6. Impartial Hearings
It is important to recognise that the GCM and the MCA are tribunals headed by presidents who are outside the SAF chain of command.Being an "outsider", the president of these forums will hear the case impartially like any other civil criminal case. The proceedings in the GCM and the MCA are also heard in a public forum, and these military courts adopt many of the same legal procedures and safeguards as that used in the civil criminal courts. All servicemen formally charged with an offence can bring their case to these forums.
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Just do the trip after NS then!
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Wa, they quite strict actually. That time I mess up, missed the deadline for deferment, the guy came all the way to my house, even though I called. But it's a good thing though.
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All NSmen below the age of 50 for Officers and 40 for Warrant Officers, Specialists, Other Ranks and Enlistees who are leaving the country for more than 24 hours but less than 6 months are required to notify MINDEF Notification Centre (MNC) / Overseas Notification Centre (ONC) via Notification of Overseas Trips of their country of destination and a contact telephone or a fax number (can be local or overseas) at which they can be contacted or where information of their overseas whereabouts can be obtained during their absence. NSmen with valid Exit Permit and those disrupted need not inform of their overseas trips of more than 24 hours but less than 6 months
Why must MINDEF impose exit controls on NS-liable males?
Exit controls are necessary to ensure that NS-liable males who have gone overseas to study or reside at a young age return to fulfil their NS responsibilities.
Will young males aged 13 to 16.5 who fail to apply for an exit permit be sentenced to imprisonment?
The penalty for exit permit offences of young males aged 13 to 16.5 will be a fine of up to $2,000, with no custodial sentences. They will however be subjected to harsher penalties should they continue to breach of the Enlistment Act after age 16.5.
Males above 16.5 years who travel and remain overseas without applying for an exit permit would have committed an offence under the Enlistment Act. They will be liable upon conviction to a fine of up to $10,000 or imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 years or both.
Pre-Enlistees
Who requires an exit permit?
If you are between 13 and 16.5 year old:
You need to apply for an exit permit if you are travelling overseas for 3 months or more. If you are travelling overseas for 2 years or more, your parents will also need to furnish a bond, in the form of a Banker's Guarantee of S$75,000 or 50% of the combined annual gross income of both parents for the preceding year, whichever is higher.
If you are above 16.5 and have not enlisted for NS:
You need to apply for an exit permit if you are travelling overseas for 3 months or more. Your parents/guardians will need to furnish a bond in the form of a Banker's Guarantee of S$75,000 or 50% of the combined annual gross income of both parents for the preceding year, whichever is higher.
NSman
I am an NSman. I would like to extend my International passport. Do I need to apply for an Exit Permit first?
As an NSman, you may extend your passport without having to apply for an exit permit.
I am an NSman and going overseas for business/work/study. Do I need to apply for exit permit?
You are required to apply for an exit permit if the duration of your overseas trip is 6 months or more.
If your trip is less than 1 year and you have been scheduled for NS training during the period of overseas trips, you are required to obtain approval from your NS unit before applying for an exit permit.
You are also required to obtain approval from your NS unit if the trip is 1 year or longer and your NS training is scheduled within 6 months from the date of application for the exit permit. Otherwise, you may apply for your exit permit directly via internet
*You will need to apply for deferment if you have been called up for National Service training.
*If your deferment is not approved, you are required to report for the scheduled National Service training.
You do not need to apply for an exit permit if your overseas trip is less than 6 months. However, if you have not completed your ORNS Training Cycle and have yet to be posted to MINDEF Reserve (MR) / SPF or SCDF Reserve, you will need to inform the MINDEF Notification Centre (MNC) if your trip exceeds 24 hours via Overseas Notification.
I am an NSman. How do I apply for disruption for NS if I am staying overseas for a prolonged period?
You can apply for exit permit online. You must obtain your NS unit's/ NSSC's recommendation* prior to your application, if necessary. Disruption will be granted upon approval of application for exit permit.
* Advance notice of 6-12 months is given for ICT. If your National Service training is less than 6 months from the date of application, you are required to seek your NS unit's/NSSC's recommendation for your exit permit/disruption. When the NS unit/NSSC does not agree to the deferment of your ICT, you are required to complete your National Service training before your exit permit/ disruption is approved.
I have applied for an exit permit for going overseas for more than 1 year and it has been approved. Do I still need to apply for disruption from National Service?
Once your exit permit application has been approved, your disruption form national service will be processed simultaneously. Hence it is not necessary to apply to your respective Personnel Management Centre/NSSC/ NS units for disruption for National Service.
* A NSman who is granted disruption may not be posted back to his previous unit upon expiry of his disruption.
* A NSman who is granted disruption will complete his training cycle later than his cohort.
* A NSman who is an appointment holder will not receive his National Service Command Allowance or Key Appointment Holder Allowance during the period of disruption.
I am going overseas to look for a job. I do not have a documentary proof now. What should I do?
You may leave without an exit permit by informing NS Call Centre* of your overseas trip at 1800-3676767 first. However, you are required to apply for an exit permit through Internet, within 6 months from date of departure.
No documentary proof is required for application of exit permit by NSmen. Random verification of proof is only for selected applications.
* If you have not completed your ORNS Training Cycle and have yet to be posted to MINDEF Reserve (MR) / SPF or SCDF Reserve, you will need to inform the MINDEF Notification Centre (MNC) if your trip exceed 24 hours via Overseas Notification.
When do I need to reapply for a new exit permit?
You will need to apply for a new exit permit via the Internet at www.ns.sg if:
i) Your exit permit is expiring and you are not able to come back upon expiry of your current exit permit.
ii) There is a change of your departure date
iii) There is a change of the country of visit, purpose of visit, place of employment and course and place of study.
I have changed my course of Study/ University. My Exit Permit is still valid. Do I need to re-apply for a new Exit Permit again?
If you have changed your course or University, you are required to re-apply for a new Exit Permit through internet.
What is the maximum duration of Exit Permit that I can apply for?
An exit permit is normally granted on a yearly basis for overseas employment, permanent residence or training. An exit permit of a maximum of 3 years may be granted for overseas employment or training. If you are studying overseas, an exit permit can be granted for the full duration of your course. -
SAF first, holiday later~
If you change the way, you'll get no "holiday" from SAF
But I think you should discuss with MINDEF first, probably you'll get something clearer and better.
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Singapore Armed Forces Military Police Command
(SAFMPC/ æ–°åŠ å�¡æ¦è£…部队宪兵å�¸ä»¤éƒ¨)The formation is headed by the Command Headquarters which oversees its daily operations, and supported by four units specialising in the various specific operational responsibilities of the SAF MPC.
The four units are:
Military Police Enforcement Unit (MPEU): The unit consists of the Law Enforcement and Ceremonial Company (LECC), the Security Operation Unit (SOU) and the Special Security and Protection (SSP) Branch. It is the active wing of the SAF MPC and executes most of the operational and ceremonial duties and roles carried out by the SAF MPC.
The LECC was formed by combining the former Active Provost Company (APC) and the former Zone Provost Company (ZPC). Its duties include most of the important ceremonial duties required within the SAF as previously handled by the APC, and a traffic platoon which ensures the compliance of traffic regulations by military personnel on the road as well as performing escort duties. It also performs regular raids for contraband and/or miscreants on various camps of the SAF as was conducted by the ZPC. Enforcement Platoon (also known as Platoon 2) performs regular operations in residential areas, workplaces, and many public places such as shopping centres, clubs and eating outlets to apprehend deserters, AWOL offenders, drug addicts and other military criminals. They work closely with the Singapore Police Force and are often in very dangerous situations and are extremely well trained for handling the varied scenarios that they find themselves in. This is also the platoon that enforces the public image of the SAF by booking offenders who smoke in uniform and commit other offences in uniform while in the eye of the public. It is worth noting that they perform undercover security operations for high-key events like the National Day Parade and the Youth Olympic Games. The security of Mowbray Station is overseen by a platoon who is also in charge of registering and detaining suspects and offenders of military crimes in holding cells. The station is similar to a civilian police station and it is usually the first stop for detainees before their transfer to the detention barracks after conviction in military courts, or a temporary holding cell for servicemen placed under Closed Arrest. The investigative branch for the SAF, the Special Investigation Branch (SIB) investigates higher-order military crimes that requires specialised handling. Since 31 December 8, MPEU has heralded the inclusion of a new branch within its ranks. The Security Support and Protection (SSP) Branch is involved in sensitive operations so no further information is available.
SAF Detention Barracks (SAFDB): Headed by a commandant, DB consists of MPs in charge of supervision of detainees of the SAF who have been convicted in military courts.
Military Police Training School (MPTS): Formerly known as the School of Provost, MPTS is in charge of equipping trainees with necessary and fundamental military policing skills as well as instilling in them a high standard of discipline through the vocational courses and specialised courses such as the Silent Precision Drill Courses. MPTS also legislation courses for senior commanders all over the SAF. In addition, the SAF Military Working Dog Unit is a wing under MPTS and it is in charge of all dog training and doctrine matters of the SAF.
SAF MP Command Head Quarters (HQ): The Head Quarters of the Command comprises various branches, namely the Human Resource (HR), Intelligences and Security Branch (ISB), General Staff Branch (GS), the Special Investigation Branch (SIB) and Logistic Branch. Each branch is headed by a branch head who serves concurrently as the Command's Manpower, Intelligence, Ops and Training and Logistics Officer.
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FAQs
SAF Detention Barracks
1. Are the detainees being medically taken care of?
Primary health care of detainees is of utmost importance to us. All detainees will be given adequate medical care during their incarceration. Our medical services are also supported by the Tengah Airbase Medical Centre, NUH and also Changi General Hospital if the need arises.
2. Can I write a letter to a detainee?
Yes.
3. I have just received a Visit Notification Letter, but the schedule visit date stated therein has already lapsed. How can I visit the detainee?
You can contact the Records Office at 6424 6666 to arrange for another appointment date.
4. Can anyone besides the parent unit of the detainees pick up the detainee on the day of their release?
At no time shall the detainee/military prisoner be released from the detention barracks/military prison as the case may be, to his family or any other party.
5.. Can the detainee write letters while serving detention in Detention Barracks?
Every detainee and military prisoner shall be allowed to write one letter per week.
6. What are the visiting days and what is the duration of the visit?
Visiting days are on Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and the first appointment starts from 1.30pm and ends at 3.00pm. Visitors are allowed to visit the detainee for 30 minutes.
7. How many visits is the serviceman entitled to?
Each serviceman is entitled to one visit per week.
8. What happens if the family members can't turn up on the date specified for their first visit?
The family members can call Records Office of SAF Detention Barracks at 6424 6666 and arrange for another date and time.
9. What is the dress code of the family members when they come for parent visit?
The family must wear appropriately when they come for parent visit. SAF Detention Barracks will send a slip indicating the dress code together with the parent-visiting letter. -
Hmm I called them an they say it's ok just that have to make it back for enlistment
Somehow I think it's alright to take the risk anyway Bandung is so near and I doubt there will be any flight delay and I will really like to go with them.
Anyway my friend also never experience delay b4
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Originally posted by CrimsonSoul:
Hmm I called them an they say it's ok just that have to make it back for enlistment
Somehow I think it's alright to take the risk anyway Bandung is so near and I doubt there will be any flight delay and I will really like to go with them.
Anyway my friend also never experience delay b4
I guess if you delayed because of flight Mindef side can understand but if you booked your returned flight after your enlistment date, then I think you need to explain to them why?
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If you want to take your chance, you should have leave the country asap. At most, you'll become a fugitive until you become an influential figure so important, the government needs you.
And when that happen, take your chance and claim your citizenship IN EXCHANGE FOR THE REMOVABLE OF CONSTRIPTION OF SINGAPOREAN MALE. SAVE US FROM SLAVERY!
......nah just kiding. We still need to defend ourselves. However, I still think we need to relook at the recruitment system, but that's another topic.
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Yes, beware of a person whose surname is "**" and has a really firece face, you can hardly see him smile.
he's a nightmare. :lol: